New OC again!
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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000455399/article/cleveland-browns-kyle-shanahan-part-ways
In a bizarre offseason twist, the Browns are parting ways with offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan and quarterbacks coach Dowell Loggains after just one season, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported Thursday, per a source informed of the plans.
From a schematic standpoint, the move makes little sense. Shanahan and Loggains were more than admirable in 2014 considering a myriad of unfortunate circumstances surrounding the team's offense this season.
Not only was their first-round pick, Johnny Manziel, not NFL ready, but their No. 1 weapon, Josh Gordon, was suspended for almost the entire season. That resulted in a team still averaging 324.6 yards per game with Brian Hoyer at quarterback. Shanahan managed to put enough pieces in place to keep the team in playoff contention through almost the entire season.
Shanahan has been looked at as one of the brightest young minds in football, which makes the move even more puzzling. Unless he was let go under the assumption that he would be receiving a head-coaching job elsewhere, Browns coach Mike Pettine might have some explaining to do.
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So we bringing the fat ass in now? Charlie Weiss?
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Twitter embed didn't work. D'oh!Here we go again!
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Loggains was a dead man walking after letting the Haslam and Manziel thing slip in a radio interview
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i like it. no probs here.
loggains was a waste and shanny over thunk his game planning, and quite frankly, it stunk.
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i like it. no probs here.
loggains was a waste and shanny over thunk his game planning, and quite frankly, it stunk.
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I thought Shanny did a good job masking Hoyer's flaws as long as he could, he gave us a chance to be competitive early in the season even though we were starting a backup QB and a bunch of backup WRs.
He wants to move on elsewhere, and the Browns don't need somebody that doesn't want to be there.
Now we have no OC, no QB coach and no QB with more than two starts or over 6'0.
Here we go again ... could be fun, let's hope we they get it right, because if we shore up the D-line we definitely have a playoff defense on hand.
Zombo
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I can't say I'm disappointed really in this. I think this season showed that Shanahan's brand of office doesn't work consistently in the NFL. It was admirable when the season started, but it got figured out. The crap he was using with Manziel was pathetic and will never work. I could eat crow on this but I just don't ever see his style of game-calling as a long term successful option in the NFL, and he's starting to have a track record that proves it. I hate the turnover as much as anyone else but this is something we can recover from.
Please Browns, bring in a pro-style OC. I think we stick with Manziel next year and he has to win or lose from the pocket, not on read-option or designed QB roll outs. It's really unfortunate we missed out on Kubiak last offseason cause he's looking like a genius in Baltimore this year (although he'll get a HC gig very soon).
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I do not think it will be very hard at all to replace either of these guys with equal or better people.
With BH likely leaving and JFF being a non-factor it does not really matter if there will be continuity. The Browns will have a new QB and a new offensive system. Better to replace them both at once.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Manziel will stay....but he will be just a guy coming off the bench. The Browns at this point will not be doing anything to appease JFFs desires. He can get in their and work and learn a new system or he can GTFO or sit on the bench.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
No, but like I said, I do not think it will be difficult at all to replace him with someone equal or better.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. Makes me ask the question, is Pettine an issue too?
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Shanny won't be without a job for long.
Fuck Manziel. Changing offenses is part of the NFL, we'll bring in a veteran and he'll get his ass beat out again if he's not committed.
We're not a "mess" because we are changing OCs ... happens all the time.
Z
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I thought Shanny did a good job masking Hoyer's flaws as long as he could, he gave us a chance to be competitive early in the season even though we were starting a backup QB and a bunch of backup WRs.
He wants to move on elsewhere, and the Browns don't need somebody that doesn't want to be there.
Now we have no OC, no QB coach and no QB with more than two starts or over 6'0.
Here we go again ... could be fun, let's hope we they get it right, because if we shore up the D-line we definitely have a playoff defense on hand.
Zombo
Zombo said:
He wants to move on elsewhere, and the Browns don't need somebody that doesn't want to be there.
Zombo
i think he's vying for a HC job. if not maybe he hopes daddy lands the san fran job and he gets brought in to work with kaepernik. probably his dream boy qb.
@everlastingxxx said:
Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
boo fucking hoo.
he couldn't learn the last offense, so what makes you think he can learn a new one as well? maybe who ever they bring in can write the plays for manziel in crayon.
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Just make a trade for Peyton Manning, he'll be QB and OC. What do we think, a 3rd rounder? I mean the guy's old as it is.
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@everlastingxxx said:
Browns are a mess. .....Manziel having to learn a new offense is not good. His greatest supporters are gone.
Your boy really really added to the mess too....
His greatest supporters are gone because he let them AND his team down.....
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