TRich is inactive today for the Colts
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Not even making the trip to NE ... "Personal issues"
Holmgren and Heckert had one hell of a last draft.
Zombo
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If the Browns draft you in the first round your chance for success is about 5%
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If the Browns draft you in the first round your chance for success is about 5%
If the Browns draft you in the first round your chance for success is about 5%
please go root for another team.
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If the Browns draft you in the first round your chance for success is about 5%
please go root for another team.
please go root for another team.
but is he wrong? Serious question, of our 1st round draft picks since 99 how many of em actually panned out? I know a couple went on and had decent carreers with other teams but how many actually ended up playing for the Browns long term and contributed "something" here? It's eerie when you look at the least of people we passed on. Like somebody did it on purpose or something cause it's hard to imagine folks being that stupid every year.
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please go root for another team.
but is he wrong? Serious question, of our 1st round draft picks since 99 how many of em actually panned out? I know a couple went on and had decent carreers with other teams but how many actually ended up playing for the Browns long term and contributed "something" here? It's eerie when you look at the least of people we passed on. Like somebody did it on purpose or something cause it's hard to imagine folks being that stupid every year.
but is he wrong? Serious question, of our 1st round draft picks since 99 how many of em actually panned out? I know a couple went on and had decent carreers with other teams but how many actually ended up playing for the Browns long term and contributed "something" here? It's eerie when you look at the least of people we passed on. Like somebody did it on purpose or something cause it's hard to imagine folks being that stupid every year.
It's crazy to think that since 1999 Thomas, Mack and Haden may be the only draft picks the Browns have taken in the first round to actually. While Edwards and Winslow were ok neither has played to their draft status. Phil Taylor has been injured a lot. The first round hasn't been kind when you think of all the top 10 picks that haven't panned out.
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Trent doesn't even travel with the Colts to NE
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Trent doesn't even travel with the Colts to NE
Trent doesn't even travel with the Colts to NE
I thought Trent would be better for the Colts but was wrong. Thankfully the Browns turned that 1st round pick into Manziel, hope I'm wrong on that one as well.
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but is he wrong? Serious question, of our 1st round draft picks since 99 how many of em actually panned out? I know a couple went on and had decent carreers with other teams but how many actually ended up playing for the Browns long term and contributed "something" here? It's eerie when you look at the least of people we passed on. Like somebody did it on purpose or something cause it's hard to imagine folks being that stupid every year.
It's crazy to think that since 1999 Thomas, Mack and Haden may be the only draft picks the Browns have taken in the first round to actually. While Edwards and Winslow were ok neither has played to their draft status. Phil Taylor has been injured a lot. The first round hasn't been kind when you think of all the top 10 picks that haven't panned out.
It's crazy to think that since 1999 Thomas, Mack and Haden may be the only draft picks the Browns have taken in the first round to actually. While Edwards and Winslow were ok neither has played to their draft status. Phil Taylor has been injured a lot. The first round hasn't been kind when you think of all the top 10 picks that haven't panned out.
Trading positions with the Ravens so they could take Haloti Ngata and we got Kam Wimbley was another punch to the gut. The killer moves were the first one: Tim Couch, and the 3 "22's": Quinn, Weeden and Manziel.
You just gotta hit on a QB or you are a perennial also-ran regardless of whoever you draft.
This current team with Thomas, Haden, Mack, Tayor, etc. is a playoff team with any of the four QBs paying today. The defense was playoff worthy, and when healthy, the offensive lines is one of the best in football. We need a quarterback to make it go.
We've drafted 8th (trade down from 4th), 6th and 3rd, in the past three drafts, plus two #22 overalls for five first round picks.
And the quarterbacks on our roster for next year are Johnny Manziel and Connor Shaw.
Zombo
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Who cares he isn't a Brown and hasn't been in a long time.
Who cares he isn't a Brown and hasn't been in a long time.
I care that someone other than the Browns was horribly wrong on talent evaluation. Top 10 busts of all time, move over Richardson is coming.
I bet Pagano was secretly shitting himself when Herrons arm was dangling early in the game. They have virtually zero depth at RB right now so for Trich to not even be suited up means he's not just playing poorly, he's basically done in the NFL and his attitude shows it. He doesn't care anymore which is why they told him don't bother putting pads on.
Somewhere, PoG still believes with every fiber of his being, that Trent is being screwed yet again, and is a top 5 Arena League RB.
Fixed.
Zombo said:
Trading positions with the Ravens so they could take Haloti Ngata and we got Kam Wimbley was another punch to the gut. The killer moves were the first one: Tim Couch, and the 3 "22's": Quinn, Weeden and Manziel.
You just gotta hit on a QB or you are a perennial also-ran regardless of whoever you draft.
This current team with Thomas, Haden, Mack, Tayor, etc. is a playoff team with any of the four QBs paying today. The defense was playoff worthy, and when healthy, the offensive lines is one of the best in football. We need a quarterback to make it go.
We've drafted 8th (trade down from 4th), 6th and 3rd, in the past three drafts, plus two #22 overalls for five first round picks.
And the quarterbacks on our roster for next year are Johnny Manziel and Connor Shaw.
Zombo
Exactly Z. It's a qb league. Still POed the SeaHags are in the Big Game- if that was the Browns and not the Packers- I might have had to kill myself.
Remember the secret code "I'd rather be lucky than good."
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Who cares he isn't a Brown and hasn't been in a long time.
I care that someone other than the Browns was horribly wrong on talent evaluation. Top 10 busts of all time, move over Richardson is coming.
I bet Pagano was secretly shitting himself when Herrons arm was dangling early in the game. They have virtually zero depth at RB right now so for Trich to not even be suited up means he's not just playing poorly, he's basically done in the NFL and his attitude shows it. He doesn't care anymore which is why they told him don't bother putting pads on.
Somewhere, PoG still believes with every fiber of his being, that Trent is being screwed yet again, and is a top 5 Arena League RB.
Fixed.
Zombo said:
Trading positions with the Ravens so they could take Haloti Ngata and we got Kam Wimbley was another punch to the gut. The killer moves were the first one: Tim Couch, and the 3 "22's": Quinn, Weeden and Manziel.
You just gotta hit on a QB or you are a perennial also-ran regardless of whoever you draft.
This current team with Thomas, Haden, Mack, Tayor, etc. is a playoff team with any of the four QBs paying today. The defense was playoff worthy, and when healthy, the offensive lines is one of the best in football. We need a quarterback to make it go.
We've drafted 8th (trade down from 4th), 6th and 3rd, in the past three drafts, plus two #22 overalls for five first round picks.
And the quarterbacks on our roster for next year are Johnny Manziel and Connor Shaw.
Zombo
Exactly Z. It's a qb league. Still POed the SeaHags are in the Big Game- if that was the Browns and not the Packers- I might have had to kill myself.
Remember the secret code "I'd rather be lucky than good."
I care that someone other than the Browns was horribly wrong on talent evaluation. Top 10 busts of all time, move over Richardson is coming.
Fixed.
Exactly Z. It's a qb league. Still POed the SeaHags are in the Big Game- if that was the Browns and not the Packers- I might have had to kill myself.
Remember the secret code "I'd rather be lucky than good."
What makes it all the more amazing is the SeaHags got him in the 3rd round and we too "Wee-done".. Just once.. I would love for this team to hit on a seriously good QB.. Jesus.. I'm getting too old for this schidt!
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Who did the Browns waste the Indy pick on again? Get rid of a bust but draft one with his pick... Heh
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It's crazy to think that since 1999 Thomas, Mack and Haden may be the only draft picks the Browns have taken in the first round to actually. While Edwards and Winslow were ok neither has played to their draft status. Phil Taylor has been injured a lot. The first round hasn't been kind when you think of all the top 10 picks that haven't panned out.
Trading positions with the Ravens so they could take Haloti Ngata and we got Kam Wimbley was another punch to the gut. The killer moves were the first one: Tim Couch, and the 3 "22's": Quinn, Weeden and Manziel.
You just gotta hit on a QB or you are a perennial also-ran regardless of whoever you draft.
This current team with Thomas, Haden, Mack, Tayor, etc. is a playoff team with any of the four QBs paying today. The defense was playoff worthy, and when healthy, the offensive lines is one of the best in football. We need a quarterback to make it go.
We've drafted 8th (trade down from 4th), 6th and 3rd, in the past three drafts, plus two #22 overalls for five first round picks.
And the quarterbacks on our roster for next year are Johnny Manziel and Connor Shaw.
Zombo
Zombo said:
Trading positions with the Ravens so they could take Haloti Ngata and we got Kam Wimbley was another punch to the gut. The killer moves were the first one: Tim Couch, and the 3 "22's": Quinn, Weeden and Manziel.
You just gotta hit on a QB or you are a perennial also-ran regardless of whoever you draft.
This current team with Thomas, Haden, Mack, Tayor, etc. is a playoff team with any of the four QBs paying today. The defense was playoff worthy, and when healthy, the offensive lines is one of the best in football. We need a quarterback to make it go.
We've drafted 8th (trade down from 4th), 6th and 3rd, in the past three drafts, plus two #22 overalls for five first round picks.
And the quarterbacks on our roster for next year are Johnny Manziel and Connor Shaw.
Zombo
We will pick up a veteran......hopefully a "youngish" veteran who has had a "checkered" past but who still could have some potential....a Kurt Warner/Brad Johnson/Trent Dilfer (Ravens Dilfer, not Browns Dilfer) type.
Maybe Locker, Mallet, Sanchez......those sorts of guys.
We won't be getting one in the draft unless there is another Joe Montana/Russell Wilson...Tom Brady lurking in the third round or later.
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