2015 - FA / Draft / Notes
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Here is a link to Bill Polian's ESPN Free Agent Tracker. He ranks each FA out there. While some of this looks good....I see one particular head scratcher.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/freeagency/?page=4&year=2015&type=-1
Here are the ranks of the Browns Free agents:
Jordan Cameron 35
Brian Hoyer 92
Jabal Sheard 122
Mile Austin 122
Johnson Bademosi 160
Shaun Draughn 239
Sion Fua 265
and the head scratcher:
Tashaun Gipson 275 with a D grade.
Polian is usually pretty good, but I don't know what he was smoking there. It is not a question of the fact that Gipson is a Restricted FA. He has other RFA sranked highly. Could it be the fact that he was injured for the latter portion of the year? I don't know.
But, for the Browns not to be very "active" they do need to replace what they lose in my opinion.
And on that note, where he has Hoyer ranked #92, Josh McCown is ranked #102. (so, fair enough there)
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Grades of Browns FAs:
Cameron B-
Hoyer C
Sheard C
Austin, Bademosi, Draughn, Fua, Gipson, Kitchen, Robertson, Moore, Rubin, Skrine, Smith, Thigpen, all D.
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LOL @ that, Gipson is awesome.
LOL @ that, Gipson is awesome.
What's even funnier is that he has Mike Adams, who was here as a safety and who sucked swamp water, rated with a C.
Gipson has been triple the player that Adams was.
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That does seem low for the way he's played the last 2 years, though I'd think that a major knee surgery has everything to do with it.....
He's fairly damaged goods right now, so until he returns and shows he can play, then the lower value makes some sense...
That works to our advantage, I do believe....
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One of the better speculation articles I've read lately. This one is on which big FA best fits where.. starting with DeMarco Murray to Indy.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000476527/article/what-are-the-best-freeagent-fits
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Rumors that are easing my mind a little about us not going all out for Mariota (we'll be outbid - I hope) :
Eagles @EaglesFanTalk · 20h 20 hours ago I've seen a few reports mentioning the #Eagles are in talks with the Bucs for the #1 overall pick... Where there's smoke there's fire..?
Followed by :
Eagles @EaglesFanTalk · 20h 20 hours ago Rumor: #Eagles get: #1 pick, and Mike Evans. #Bucs get: Nick Foles, Eagles 1-3 rounds this and next year. And rounds 1-2 in 2017. Jesus.
Plus
NFL Draft Rumors: Eagles will trade with Jets for Marcus Mariota
http://fansided.com/2015/03/04/nfl-draft-rumors-eagles-will-trade-with-jets-for-marcus-mariota/
Storm's a brewin' :
Eagles can trade picks into 2018 draft, once the 2015 draft opens
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Wow... talk about mortgaging a franchise's future...
With that kind of package the Bucs can be generous with the Titans for their #2 and still land Jameis with Buc picks left over.
The Chip-father...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Wow... talk about mortgaging a franchise's future...
With that kind of package the Bucs can be generous with the Titans for their #2 and still land Jameis with Buc picks left over.
The Chip-father...
Wow... talk about mortgaging a franchise's future...
With that kind of package the Bucs can be generous with the Titans for their #2 and still land Jameis with Buc picks left over.
The Chip-father...
Mortgaging a future for a QB that will be put in an offense that could expose him to injury. So.... that's always fun.
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Wow... talk about mortgaging a franchise's future...
With that kind of package the Bucs can be generous with the Titans for their #2 and still land Jameis with Buc picks left over.
The Chip-father...
Mortgaging a future for a QB that will be put in an offense that could expose him to injury. So.... that's always fun.
Mortgaging a future for a QB that will be put in an offense that could expose him to injury. So.... that's always fun.
Exactly... makes me think Chip is some kind of thrill-seeking, adrenaline junkie.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Exactly... makes me think Chip is some kind of thrill-seeking, adrenaline junkie.
He just believes in his system, good for him. His genius offense has net him zero playoffs wins and if it wasn't for facing the Big10's 2nd best team - probably wouldn't have any Rose Bowl wins under that system as well.
In all seriousness, teams at most may only utilize the read on 8% of their run plays - but when you present your QB as a ball carrier, the defense CAN hit him regardless if he has the ball or not.
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Exactly... makes me think Chip is some kind of thrill-seeking, adrenaline junkie.
Makes me think that maybe he knows something about Mariota that no one else does.
How many college coaches moved up to the NFL and then mortgaged their futures to get their old QB? It's not something that happens often. Kelly is the only coach who has had extensive experience with Mariota and he's willing to possibly give up picks in the next three years. Could be hubris, could be something else.
The worry of many fans is that we'll take him and he'll be like Manziel/Weeden/ etc. My worry is that we won't take him and he'll be like Rodgers.
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Exactly... makes me think Chip is some kind of thrill-seeking, adrenaline junkie.
Makes me think that maybe he knows something about Mariota that no one else does.
How many college coaches moved up to the NFL and then mortgaged their futures to get their old QB? It's not something that happens often. Kelly is the only coach who has had extensive experience with Mariota and he's willing to possibly give up picks in the next three years. Could be hubris, could be something else.
The worry of many fans is that we'll take him and he'll be like Manziel/Weeden/ etc. My worry is that we won't take him and he'll be like Rodgers.
Makes me think that maybe he knows something about Mariota that no one else does.
How many college coaches moved up to the NFL and then mortgaged their futures to get their old QB? It's not something that happens often. Kelly is the only coach who has had extensive experience with Mariota and he's willing to possibly give up picks in the next three years. Could be hubris, could be something else.
The worry of many fans is that we'll take him and he'll be like Manziel/Weeden/ etc. My worry is that we won't take him and he'll be like Rodgers.
I'll concede that Mariota is fast, has a good arm, and a great work ethic.
My big issues with him is I don't think he can hit the tight windows he's going to see in the NFL - his College WR's were usually all alone.
Also, the type of Offense he ran in College hasn't translated well in the NFL.
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On a positive note, Gilbert may be shaping up.
Joe Haden: Justin Gilbert is “growing up”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/05/joe-haden-justin-gilbert-is-growing-up/
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On a positive note, Gilbert may be shaping up.
Joe Haden: Justin Gilbert is “growing up”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/05/joe-haden-justin-gilbert-is-growing-up/
On a positive note, Gilbert may be shaping up.
Im holding out hope that he'll be MUCH better this year......no matter what folks like to say about him, dude is extremely talented and showed flashes of how good he can be....
His first 2 games were terrible, but he got better as the season wore on(and no one noticed?).......
Still looks like a future pro-bowl type player to me.....
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On a positive note, Gilbert may be shaping up.
Joe Haden: Justin Gilbert is “growing up”
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/05/joe-haden-justin-gilbert-is-growing-up/
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It's probably a bit easy for all sorts of players with spectacular talent, to
go on talent alone in college, and not have to work their asses off to be great.
But like so many other players in the NFL have said, it's a big leap, to where
all the other players you play against, were also stars in college.
Gilbert has a great mentor in Haden, what a great addition to the starting lineup.
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Just another reason why Haden might go down as my favorite Browns player.
Slightly off topic - Stevie Johnson. I wonder if a reunion with Pettine is in the cards?
While I do like Hartline, I might be inclined to sign Johnson over him if available. Especially if the money is right.
edit: Obviously some rumors on his attitude might be an issue.
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Rumor out that the Browns just made a trade for WR.
Don't know more than that yet . . . digging into it.
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