2015 - FA / Draft / Notes
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Very interesting article on the Browns FA/Draft overall strategy. If true then do not expect many FA signings now. More likely looking at cuts from teams during training camp and compensatory draft picks in 2016.
http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&r=17&post_id=42931
"Said another league source, “The only negative is if the guys who are scheduled free agents hitting the market right now, you have to stay out of this market if you want to maximize your compensatory picks. You’re passing up a group of players, probably overpaid, but definitely some solid guys, to maximize compensatory picks.”
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The events of the weekend might not bode well at all for the Ravens, who were hoping to keep Haloti Ngata and Lardarius Webb on team-friendly, cap-friendly new deals. Problem is, the corner market has absolutely exploded with Byron Maxwell set to get $10 million a year in Philly and Brandon Flowers and others getting $9 million per year already. Webb, though coming off an injury-plagued season, would be looking at a thin group of corners around him if on the street. And the Suh deal, and other defensive line deals to come, would only increase Ngata's position on the open market to get paid. I don't see him budging on his evaluation; if he hits the open market, the Colts and Browns would be strong suitors, from what I gather. Could he push $10 million in the first year of a new deal?
Interesting read, Ag... When compensatory picks were added to the Draft Sims last year they really changed the flow of the picks. However, in real life they did not impact the Browns' draft since we traded away every pick past Rnd 4...
Not sure why, but for some reason I keep forgetting about Ngata being out there... Maybe it was Suh's shadow...The events of the weekend might not bode well at all for the Ravens, who were hoping to keep Haloti Ngata
Sorry to see that... hope it's just twitter shit...Bills are about to resign Jerry Hughes
EDIT: ... and it's a done deal...
"The Buffalo Bills and defensive end Jerry Hughes have agreed on a five-year deal worth more than $45 million, a source confirmed to ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter."
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12447437/buffalo-bills-keep-jerry-hughes-45m-deal -
@RavensInsider: Pernell McPhee to Chicago Bears on five-year, $40 million deal, nearly $16 million guaranteed: t.co/JdSXJrop6Y
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If we could walk out of Free Agency with acquiring Nick Foles via a trade, Haloti Gnata, and Cecil Shorts I'd call that a quality FA period.
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McPhee is one im very glad we passed on.....a system player that will remain invisible, even with that new contract.....
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 3m
Adam Schefter@AdamSchefterStill a good chance QB Brian Hoyer winds up in Houston, but his agent still is negotiating with the Jets and NY will be given a chance here.3 minutes agoAdam Schefter@AdamSchefterStill a good chance QB Brian Hoyer winds up in Houston, but his agent still is negotiating with the Jets and NY will be given a chance here.Still a good chance QB Brian Hoyer winds up in Houston, but his agent still is negotiating with the Jets and NY will be given a chance here.
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It's like watching the clock run down on ebay...
Who is the better "sniper", HOU or NYJ?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
The thing that bothers me about McPhee is that he is a pass rusher, so if da Bears want to keep addressing their defense - this means Shelton will undoubtedly not fall passed them.
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I say Houston.....dont think Brians skin is thick enough to play in New York.....talk about dealing with tough fans, wicked press, etc
Hoyer probably has a better shot at the starting job in New York, though. Especially if the Texans decide to keep Mallet.
I had this conversation with my friends a week ago. If Mariota slips to 6, the Jets will be fielding plenty of calls. They'd do well to have a starting caliber QB on their roster in order to have some flexibility to move, if they needed.
Here's my scenario I posed last week to my Jets fan friend:
Jets bring back Darrelle Revis.
Jets sign Brian Hoyer.
Jets sign Clint Boling.
Jets sign Jordan Cameron.
If Mariota slips to #6...
Jets trade #6, 2015 4th to CLE for #12, #19, 2016 2nd + late round pick.
Cleveland takes Mariota at #6.
Jets take Shane Ray, DE/OLB, at #12.
Jets take Jalen Collins, CB at #19.
Jets take Melvin Gordon, RB or Todd Gurley, RB, in the second (assuming one of the two is available.)
Jets take Tyler Lockett in the third to replace Harvin.
Now New York has a receiving corps of Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jordan Cameron and Tyler Lockett. They have a possible three down RB prospect in Gordon/Gurley. And they have a decently solid offensive line with Mangold, Ferguson, Giacomini and Boling. All they need is an moderately efficient guy to distribute the ball to their playmakers. And they still get to address their number one need (CB) in the first round.
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I say Houston.....dont think Brians skin is thick enough to play in New York.....talk about dealing with tough fans, wicked press, etc
Hoyer probably has a better shot at the starting job in New York, though. Especially if the Texans decide to keep Mallet.
I had this conversation with my friends a week ago. If Mariota slips to 6, the Jets will be fielding plenty of calls. They'd do well to have a starting caliber QB on their roster in order to have some flexibility to move, if they needed.
Here's my scenario I posed last week to my Jets fan friend:
Jets bring back Darrelle Revis.
Jets sign Brian Hoyer.
Jets sign Clint Boling.
Jets sign Jordan Cameron.
If Mariota slips to #6...
Jets trade #6, 2015 4th to CLE for #12, #19, 2016 2nd + late round pick.
Cleveland takes Mariota at #6.
Jets take Shane Ray, DE/OLB, at #12.
Jets take Jalen Collins, CB at #19.
Jets take Melvin Gordon, RB or Todd Gurley, RB, in the second (assuming one of the two is available.)
Jets take Tyler Lockett in the third to replace Harvin.
Now New York has a receiving corps of Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jordan Cameron and Tyler Lockett. They have a possible three down RB prospect in Gordon/Gurley. And they have a decently solid offensive line with Mangold, Ferguson, Giacomini and Boling. All they need is an moderately efficient guy to distribute the ball to their playmakers. And they still get to address their number one need (CB) in the first round.
Hoyer probably has a better shot at the starting job in New York, though. Especially if the Texans decide to keep Mallet.
I had this conversation with my friends a week ago. If Mariota slips to 6, the Jets will be fielding plenty of calls. They'd do well to have a starting caliber QB on their roster in order to have some flexibility to move, if they needed.
Here's my scenario I posed last week to my Jets fan friend:
Jets bring back Darrelle Revis.
Jets sign Brian Hoyer.
Jets sign Clint Boling.
Jets sign Jordan Cameron.
If Mariota slips to #6...
Jets trade #6, 2015 4th to CLE for #12, #19, 2016 2nd + late round pick.
Cleveland takes Mariota at #6.
Jets take Shane Ray, DE/OLB, at #12.
Jets take Jalen Collins, CB at #19.
Jets take Melvin Gordon, RB or Todd Gurley, RB, in the second (assuming one of the two is available.)
Jets take Tyler Lockett in the third to replace Harvin.
Now New York has a receiving corps of Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jordan Cameron and Tyler Lockett. They have a possible three down RB prospect in Gordon/Gurley. And they have a decently solid offensive line with Mangold, Ferguson, Giacomini and Boling. All they need is an moderately efficient guy to distribute the ball to their playmakers. And they still get to address their number one need (CB) in the first round.
I like your analysis from a Jets perspective.....sounds great really.
Im just thinking more along the lines of Hoyers choices and what (i think)he's looking for and just think the Jets and NYC are not in his comfort zone....Houston and Obrien sound more comfy to me....
Though....I would like the plan if I was a Jets fan...
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Pettine said in interview we are still in for Hartline and Trent Cole ..... also TE Ed Dickson been linked via several twitter journalists
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Pettine also said a long term contract for Gipson is "being discussed" if true I think it would be the best decision we could make in free agency. Also heard that Trent Cole's visit went well. Pettine also said that the option is on the table to bring in another QB this offseason but the Browns don't feel the pressure to draft one.
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Hoyer probably has a better shot at the starting job in New York, though. Especially if the Texans decide to keep Mallet.
I had this conversation with my friends a week ago. If Mariota slips to 6, the Jets will be fielding plenty of calls. They'd do well to have a starting caliber QB on their roster in order to have some flexibility to move, if they needed.
Here's my scenario I posed last week to my Jets fan friend:
Jets bring back Darrelle Revis.
Jets sign Brian Hoyer.
Jets sign Clint Boling.
Jets sign Jordan Cameron.
If Mariota slips to #6...
Jets trade #6, 2015 4th to CLE for #12, #19, 2016 2nd + late round pick.
Cleveland takes Mariota at #6.
Jets take Shane Ray, DE/OLB, at #12.
Jets take Jalen Collins, CB at #19.
Jets take Melvin Gordon, RB or Todd Gurley, RB, in the second (assuming one of the two is available.)
Jets take Tyler Lockett in the third to replace Harvin.
Now New York has a receiving corps of Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker, Jordan Cameron and Tyler Lockett. They have a possible three down RB prospect in Gordon/Gurley. And they have a decently solid offensive line with Mangold, Ferguson, Giacomini and Boling. All they need is an moderately efficient guy to distribute the ball to their playmakers. And they still get to address their number one need (CB) in the first round.
I like your analysis from a Jets perspective.....sounds great really.
Im just thinking more along the lines of Hoyers choices and what (i think)he's looking for and just think the Jets and NYC are not in his comfort zone....Houston and Obrien sound more comfy to me....
Though....I would like the plan if I was a Jets fan...
I like your analysis from a Jets perspective.....sounds great really.
Im just thinking more along the lines of Hoyers choices and what (i think)he's looking for and just think the Jets and NYC are not in his comfort zone....Houston and Obrien sound more comfy to me....
Though....I would like the plan if I was a Jets fan...
Oh, yeah, from a comfort standpoint, nothing beats Houston for Hoyer. He gets to reunite with O'Brien and goes to a much, much less harsh fanbase.
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Brian Hartline is now a Brown
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Just for laughs, these QB's are being linked to the Browns (rumor city) :
Foles
Kaepernik (Cap issues)
Brees (due to Saint Cap issues)
This has already broken, but I'll put it here as well for a place mark :
SiriusXM NFL Radio @SiriusXMNFL · 2h 2 hours ago RT @DustinFox37 Breaking: Brian Hartline is signing with the Cleveland #Browns.
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Julius Thomas to the Jaguars
SportsCenter @SportsCenter 2m
SportsCenter@SportsCenterJulius Thomas is expected to sign with Jaguars on multiyear deal in neighborhood of $9M per year. (via @denverpost)
2 minutes agoSportsCenter@SportsCenterJulius Thomas is expected to sign with Jaguars on multiyear deal in neighborhood of $9M per year. (via @denverpost)Julius Thomas is expected to sign with Jaguars on multiyear deal in neighborhood of $9M per year
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