Best Not Hall of Famer lists

[The Gipper]

Because I do this sort of thing I will share it with you. The following are the results of 4 different services/publication concerning which are the best players....who are and have been eligible to not yet be in the Hall of Fame. I will give each lists Top Ten:

Service A:

1. Jim Marshall DL

1A. Marvin Harrison

2. Ken Anderson QB

3. Kevin Mawae OL

4. Zach Thomas LB

5. John Hadl QB

6. Lomas Brown OL

7. Ron McDole DL

8. David Kreig QB

9. Mike Kenn OL

10 Clay Matthews

Service B:

1. Marvin Harrison

2. Ken Anderson

3. Zach Thomas

4. Edgerrin James

5. Kevin Mawae

6. Randall Cunningham

7. Boomer Esiason

8. John Hadl

9. Drew Bledsoe

10. Steve Wisnewski OL

Service

1. Marvin Harrison

2. Tiki Barber

3. Roger Craig

4. Jerry Kramer

5. Ricky Waters

6. Ken Stabler

7. Ken Anderson

8. Alex Karras

9. Gino Cappaletti

10. Jim Marshall

Service

1. Kurt Warner

2. Marvin Harrison

3. Ricky Watters

4. Kevin Greene

5. Ken Riley DB

6. Isaac Bruce

7. Terrell Davis

8. Priest Holmes

9. Drew Bledsoe

10. Phil Simms

So, which service meets you view ....or has the best list.

[The Gipper]

My opinion is that Harrison and Warner will no doubt get in. They were just first time eligible this year. They just have to do their year in Purgatory.

Most of the others on all these lists have been waiting a lengthy bit of time since they were eligible....and many may wait forever.

[The Gipper]

These services have wide opinons on just the QBs alone. You have the following QBs alone on one list or other:

Ken Anderson

John Hadl

Dave Kreig

Randall Cunningham

Boomer Esiason

Drew Bledsoe

Ken Stabler

Phil Simms

Kurt Warner

If any of these are gonna make it, they better do it soon before Favre, Manning, Brady, Brees show up on the eligible roll.

I believe Warner will....the others, unlikely

And note, we never even mentioned the following QBs, all who are among the Top 25 passing yards in NFL history: Testaverde, Kerry Collins, Donovan McNabb, Jim Everritt, Steve DeBerg.

[Canton Dawg]

@the-gipper said:

Because I do this sort of thing I will share it with you. The following are the results of 4 different services/publication concerning which are the best players....who are and have been eligible to not yet be in the Hall of Fame. I will give each lists Top Ten:

Service A:

1. Jim Marshall DL

1A. Marvin Harrison

2. Ken Anderson QB

3. Kevin Mawae OL

4. Zach Thomas LB

5. John Hadl QB

6. Lomas Brown OL

7. Ron McDole DL

8. David Kreig QB

9. Mike Kenn OL

10 Clay Matthews

Service B:

1. Marvin Harrison

2. Ken Anderson

3. Zach Thomas

4. Edgerrin James

5. Kevin Mawae

6. Randall Cunningham

7. Boomer Esiason

8. John Hadl

9. Drew Bledsoe

10. Steve Wisnewski OL

Service

1. Marvin Harrison

2. Tiki Barber

3. Roger Craig

4. Jerry Kramer

5. Ricky Waters

6. Ken Stabler

7. Ken Anderson

8. Alex Karras

9. Gino Cappaletti

10. Jim Marshall

Service

1. Kurt Warner

2. Marvin Harrison

3. Ricky Watters

4. Kevin Greene

5. Ken Riley DB

6. Isaac Bruce

7. Terrell Davis

8. Priest Holmes

9. Drew Bledsoe

10. Phil Simms

So, which service meets you view ....or has the best list.

My vote goes for service "C" as guys like Craig & Karras never get mentioned.

While I'm on my soapbox, IMO the guy that really got shafted was Cincy CB Ken Riley.

The guy is 5th all time with 65 interceptions, which is more than 19 DB's currently inducted.

How his name isn't even mentioned at the annual meeting is beyond me.

[Zombo]

I will score each one for how they match up with my own opinions.

2 points, for yes I agree this guys definitely belongs

1 point for maybe a strong case could be made for this guy

0 points for very nice player, but doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame

Service A:

1. Jim Marshall DL YES

1A. Marvin Harrison YES

2. Ken Anderson QB NO

3. Kevin Mawae OL MAYBE

4. Zach Thomas LB MAYBE

5. John Hadl QB NO

6. Lomas Brown OL MAYBE

7. Ron McDole DL NO

8. David Kreig QB NO

9. Mike Kenn OL MAYBE

10 Clay Matthews MAYBE

Service A 9 Points

Service B:

1. Marvin Harrison YES

2. Ken Anderson NO

3. Zach Thomas MAYBE

4. Edgerrin James MAYBE

5. Kevin Mawae MAYBE

6. Randall Cunningham NO

7. Boomer Esiason NO

8. John Hadl NO

9. Drew Bledsoe NO

10. Steve Wisnewski OL YES

Service B 7 Points

Service

1. Marvin Harrison YES

2. Tiki Barber MAYBE

3. Roger Craig MAYBE

4. Jerry Kramer YES

5. Ricky Waters MAYBE

6. Ken Stabler NO

7. Ken Anderson NO

8. Alex Karras YES

9. Gino Cappaletti YES

10. Jim Marshall YES

Service C 13 points

Service

1. Kurt Warner YES

2. Marvin Harrison YES

3. Ricky Watters MAYBE

4. Kevin Greene MAYBE

5. Ken Riley DB YES

6. Isaac Bruce YES

7. Terrell Davis YES

8. Priest Holmes NO

9. Drew Bledsoe NO

10. Phil Simms NO

Service D 10 points

So I like Service C the best ... are you going to name the services?

And of the guys mentioned I would like to see these in the Hall:

1. Marshall

2. Harrison

3. Karras

4. Kramer

5. Warner

6. Bruce

7. Davis

8. Cappaletti

9. Wisnewski

10. Riley

[The Gipper]

Zombo said:

I will score each one for how they match up with my own opinions.

2 points, for yes I agree this guys definitely belongs

1 point for maybe a strong case could be made for this guy

0 points for very nice player, but doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame

Service A:

1. Jim Marshall DL YES

1A. Marvin Harrison YES

2. Ken Anderson QB NO

3. Kevin Mawae OL MAYBE

4. Zach Thomas LB MAYBE

5. John Hadl QB NO

6. Lomas Brown OL MAYBE

7. Ron McDole DL NO

8. David Kreig QB NO

9. Mike Kenn OL MAYBE

10 Clay Matthews MAYBE

Service A 9 Points

Service B:

1. Marvin Harrison YES

2. Ken Anderson NO

3. Zach Thomas MAYBE

4. Edgerrin James MAYBE

5. Kevin Mawae MAYBE

6. Randall Cunningham NO

7. Boomer Esiason NO

8. John Hadl NO

9. Drew Bledsoe NO

10. Steve Wisnewski OL YES

Service B 7 Points

Service

1. Marvin Harrison YES

2. Tiki Barber MAYBE

3. Roger Craig MAYBE

4. Jerry Kramer YES

5. Ricky Waters MAYBE

6. Ken Stabler NO

7. Ken Anderson NO

8. Alex Karras YES

9. Gino Cappaletti YES

10. Jim Marshall YES

Service C 13 points

Service

1. Kurt Warner YES

2. Marvin Harrison YES

3. Ricky Watters MAYBE

4. Kevin Greene MAYBE

5. Ken Riley DB YES

6. Isaac Bruce YES

7. Terrell Davis YES

8. Priest Holmes NO

9. Drew Bledsoe NO

10. Phil Simms NO

Service D 10 points

So I like Service C the best ... are you going to name the services?

And of the guys mentioned I would like to see these in the Hall:

1. Marshall

2. Harrison

3. Karras

4. Kramer

5. Warner

6. Bruce

7. Davis

8. Cappaletti

9. Wisnewski

10. Riley

Service A was I believe the PFR career average. Those were the top ten most productive careers on that list.

Service B was PFR career "weighted" average. I am not sure how or why they do two different averages...but it does change the results.

I can't remember exactly now which service C and D were. They were publications. One may have been either Sports Illustrated or the Bleacher Report, or ESPN or some such....in other words, just some writers opinion.

[The Gipper]

For me.....Warner and Harrison are going to get in....its just a matter of time, so the following which is my list of the Ten that I think should get in excludes those two because in my mind they are already there:

1. Jim Marshall

2. Jerry Kramer

3. Roger Craig

4. Zach Thomas

5. Ken Riley

6. Alex Karras

7. Ken Stabler

8. Ken Anderson

9. Kevin Greene

10. Clay Matthews