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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #10

    i'd better hear that those texts were somehow causing us an unfair advantage, yeah that's laughable, but anyway...i'd better hear those texts contained some sort of information that maybe Farmer was getting from the broadcasts? I just don't get it...if we get dinged a draft pick but the fucking Ravens knowingly tried to manipulate the Ray Rice affair, Steelers didn't get dick for Tomlin doing his meaning of life impression on a kick returner, and the Patriots don't get anything for actually physically altering game balls ( I still don't get that one and why it would help them but it's still altering something you're not supposed to)....if those teams didn't get shit and the Browns get a draft pick nicked, i'm done paying much attention to the rest of the NFL. I'll watch my Browns and that's it. Fuck that league and the stupid cunt lord who runs it.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #11

    I don't want to "hear" anything... Let's see the fuckers.

  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #12

    Let's not be "those" fans. Greg Hardy is a piece of shit unless he is our piece of shit. Farmer broke a rule and we've gotta live with that. This bullshit rationalization of those guys are worse is the sad dialog of downtrodden fans. The only question we have to answer is if we suffer the same fate as "Spy-Gate" and lose #12 or #19 do heads roll or do we grin and bear it as we always do?

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
    #13

    If the Browns lose 12 and 19, I will never waste another minute on NFL football as long as I'd live.

  • Let's not be "those" fans. Greg Hardy is a piece of shit unless he is our piece of shit. Farmer broke a rule and we've gotta live with that. This bullshit rationalization of those guys are worse is the sad dialog of downtrodden fans. The only question we have to answer is if we suffer the same fate as "Spy-Gate" and lose #12 or #19 do heads roll or do we grin and bear it as we always do?

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @baconhound said:

    Let's not be "those" fans. Greg Hardy is a piece of shit unless he is our piece of shit. Farmer broke a rule and we've gotta live with that. This bullshit rationalization of those guys are worse is the sad dialog of downtrodden fans. The only question we have to answer is if we suffer the same fate as "Spy-Gate" and lose #12 or #19 do heads roll or do we grin and bear it as we always do?

    Dude, Greg Hardy beat the fuck out of a woman and Farmer texted a coach.

    A little context please.

    Z

  • If the Browns lose 12 and 19, I will never waste another minute on NFL football as long as I'd live.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #15

    @walterwhite said:

    If the Browns lose 12 and 19, I will never waste another minute on NFL football as long as I'd live.

    No not losing both but based on Goddell's press conference today he seemed to be taking the stance that breaking the rule is more important than gaining a competitive edge. The Patriots had to give up their #1 for SpyGate so it is very possible the Browns have to give up either 12 or 19.

  • @baconhound said:

    Let's not be "those" fans. Greg Hardy is a piece of shit unless he is our piece of shit. Farmer broke a rule and we've gotta live with that. This bullshit rationalization of those guys are worse is the sad dialog of downtrodden fans. The only question we have to answer is if we suffer the same fate as "Spy-Gate" and lose #12 or #19 do heads roll or do we grin and bear it as we always do?

    Dude, Greg Hardy beat the fuck out of a woman and Farmer texted a coach.

    A little context please.

    Z

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Zombo said:

    Dude, Greg Hardy beat the fuck out of a woman and Farmer texted a coach.

    A little context please.

    Z

    Not the action but the context, the fact that fans of teams are outraged one way or the other when it affects their team.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #17

    spygate = huge advantage

    textinggate = dumb, no advantage

    It's stupid, you can bet this worthless commish just doesn't have

    the Browns listed on his "favorite teams" list.

    He only goes favorites for his goodoldboys club members.

  • Zombo said:

    Dude, Greg Hardy beat the fuck out of a woman and Farmer texted a coach.

    A little context please.

    Z

    Not the action but the context, the fact that fans of teams are outraged one way or the other when it affects their team.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @baconhound said:

    Not the action but the context, the fact that fans of teams are outraged one way or the other when it affects their team.

    If Farmer beat the fuck out of his wife I would be outraged.

    If the Panthers GM texted a coach during a game i wouldnt care.

    You can flip that around any way you want.

    The NFL is gay if they make an examples out of team X for texting coaches.

    Z

  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
    #19

    Zombo makes a great point.

    There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE

  • spygate = huge advantage

    textinggate = dumb, no advantage

    It's stupid, you can bet this worthless commish just doesn't have

    the Browns listed on his "favorite teams" list.

    He only goes favorites for his goodoldboys club members.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @calfoxwc said:

    spygate = huge advantage

    textinggate = dumb, no advantage

    It's stupid, you can bet this worthless commish just doesn't have

    the Browns listed on his "favorite teams" list.

    He only goes favorites for his goodoldboys club members.

    Unfortunately Farmer broke the rules and typically in a society full of rules you get punished. Now when deciding the punishment I would hope advantage vs. disadvantage would play a role but the NFL, as of late, likes standardizing punishments.

  • Zombo makes a great point.

    There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @walterwhite said:

    Zombo makes a great point.

    There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE

    Zombo said:

    If Farmer beat the fuck out of his wife I would be outraged.

    If the Panthers GM texted a coach during a game i wouldnt care.

    You can flip that around any way you want.

    The NFL is gay if they make an examples out of team X for texting coaches.

    Z

    It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules

  • @walterwhite said:

    Zombo makes a great point.

    There is no comparison to domestic violence and texting, NONE

    Zombo said:

    If Farmer beat the fuck out of his wife I would be outraged.

    If the Panthers GM texted a coach during a game i wouldnt care.

    You can flip that around any way you want.

    The NFL is gay if they make an examples out of team X for texting coaches.

    Z

    It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules

    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by WalterWhite
    #22

    @baconhound said:

    It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules

    I've usually enjoyed your takes but you sound an absolute fucking Retard about this.

    We as fan should sit back and accept it if they take the 12 and 19 away from us?

    Beating the fuck of someone and texting isn't the same example. It's not even in the same ball park or league, it's not even the same fucking sport.

    You're way off on this one.

  • @baconhound said:

    It's not about example. If you get caught breaking the rules you get punished. That's the similarity between SpyGate, Peterson, Hardy, Vick, Brent, etc. If they take away 12 instead of 19 we can argue that the penalty may be too harsh but let's not be the fans who endorse breaking the rules

    I've usually enjoyed your takes but you sound an absolute fucking Retard about this.

    We as fan should sit back and accept it if they take the 12 and 19 away from us?

    Beating the fuck of someone and texting isn't the same example. It's not even in the same ball park or league, it's not even the same fucking sport.

    You're way off on this one.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #23

    @walterwhite said:

    I've usually enjoyed your takes but you sound an absolute fucking Retard about this.

    We as fan should sit back and accept it if they take the 12 and 19 away from us?

    Beating the fuck of someone and texting isn't the same example. It's not even in the same ball park or league, it's not even the same fucking sport.

    I know English is your second language but I never said beating someone and texting a coach is the same thing. I was drawing parallels between fans supporting rule breakers because they wear the right uniform. The draft picks play a role base on what the Patriots received for SpyGate. The Patriots were fined $500,000 and lost their 1st round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns lost #19 as compromise for truly not having a competitive advantage.

    My whole point, and again this is also indicative of society as a whole, that as fans we ignore the mistake and defend the culprit when they are aligned with us. I'm seeing it in my area right now with Syracuse basketball.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #24

    No, you are inferring that A. jaywalking and B. robbing a bank and gunning down bank tellers and

    customers...

    are to be penalized equally because they both broke the law.

    Nonsense.

  • @walterwhite said:

    I've usually enjoyed your takes but you sound an absolute fucking Retard about this.

    We as fan should sit back and accept it if they take the 12 and 19 away from us?

    Beating the fuck of someone and texting isn't the same example. It's not even in the same ball park or league, it's not even the same fucking sport.

    I know English is your second language but I never said beating someone and texting a coach is the same thing. I was drawing parallels between fans supporting rule breakers because they wear the right uniform. The draft picks play a role base on what the Patriots received for SpyGate. The Patriots were fined $500,000 and lost their 1st round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns lost #19 as compromise for truly not having a competitive advantage.

    My whole point, and again this is also indicative of society as a whole, that as fans we ignore the mistake and defend the culprit when they are aligned with us. I'm seeing it in my area right now with Syracuse basketball.

    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by WalterWhite
    #25

    @baconhound said:

    I know English is your second language but I never said beating someone and texting a coach is the same thing. I was drawing parallels between fans supporting rule breakers because they wear the right uniform. The draft picks play a role base on what the Patriots received for SpyGate. The Patriots were fined $500,000 and lost their 1st round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns lost #19 as compromise for truly not having a competitive advantage.

    My whole point, and again this is also indicative of society as a whole, that as fans we ignore the mistake and defend the culprit when they are aligned with us. I'm seeing it in my area right now with Syracuse basketball.

    You're an idiot.

    No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.

    It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.

    End of story

  • No, you are inferring that A. jaywalking and B. robbing a bank and gunning down bank tellers and

    customers...

    are to be penalized equally because they both broke the law.

    Nonsense.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #26

    @calfoxwc said:

    No, you are inferring that A. jaywalking and B. robbing a bank and gunning down bank tellers and

    customers...

    are to be penalized equally because they both broke the law.

    Nonsense.

    Not saying that at all. Im saying that there are rules governing the NFL, and society, and breaking the rules results in punishments. The closest case we've seen is SpyGate, where a team broke the rule on using electronic devices. The result of that was the Patriots paid a $500,000 fine and lost their first round draft pick. Today Goddell hinted that breaking the NFL rules, regardless of competitive advantage, is the problem. As such I would not be overly surprised if the Browns lost #19 and $250,000.

    My larger point is let's not be the type of fans that say, "yeah we got caught but it wasn't that bad" or "the NFL is picking on us 'cause we're Cleveland fans". It is what it is and at this point we should be focused on how the Browns move forward.

  • @baconhound said:

    I know English is your second language but I never said beating someone and texting a coach is the same thing. I was drawing parallels between fans supporting rule breakers because they wear the right uniform. The draft picks play a role base on what the Patriots received for SpyGate. The Patriots were fined $500,000 and lost their 1st round pick. I wouldn't be surprised if the Browns lost #19 as compromise for truly not having a competitive advantage.

    My whole point, and again this is also indicative of society as a whole, that as fans we ignore the mistake and defend the culprit when they are aligned with us. I'm seeing it in my area right now with Syracuse basketball.

    You're an idiot.

    No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.

    It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.

    End of story

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #27

    @walterwhite said:

    You're an idiot.

    No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.

    It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.

    End of story

    Seriously last time, no one is comparing the punishment for domestic violence with texting.

    Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.

  • @walterwhite said:

    You're an idiot.

    No one is supporting our players and coaches break the law.

    It no way shape or form does texting on the sideline compare at all to domestic violence nor merit a loss of a high draft pick.

    End of story

    Seriously last time, no one is comparing the punishment for domestic violence with texting.

    Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.

    WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
    #28

    @baconhound said:

    Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.

    Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?

    Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?

    Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?

    Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.

  • @baconhound said:

    Farmer broke the NFL's rules and will be punished for it and yes reading this thread is the same, woe is me, the big bad NFL is sticking it to Cleveland.

    Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?

    Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?

    Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?

    Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @walterwhite said:

    Was Dallas stripped of it's draft picks when one it's re-instated players killed a man in a DUI?

    Was Baltimore stripped of picks for tampering with Ray Rice evidence?

    Was Pittsburgh stripped of picks when Mike Tomlin placed his foot on the field at Jacoby Jones?

    Show some consistently with your argument you fruit.

    Again, SpyGate is the closest example. I'm pretty sure in 2007 your Middle School had the internet.