Chiefs Get Cassel
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Zombo said:
Scott Pioli wasn't fooled. He knew exactly what was going on with Brady and with Cassel. In fact, he's the one that franchised Cassel ... then traded for him.
Makes you wonder if this was all worked out in advance.
Zombo
Totally...collusion at its best. He worked it all out before he left NE. Benefits both teams greatly...I think NE also gets compensatory 3rd rounder for Vrabel. Bullshit!
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the reports I'm seeing is that Cassel AND Vrabel went to the Chiefs for a 2nd rounder...
One 2nd rounder both these guys.
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Wow that makes KC a way better team in one day. Vrabel sucks, but to get Cassel with so little, nice move. Hopefully, KC drafts a OT to keep their new QB protected?
. Hopefully, KC drafts a OT to keep their new QB protected?
I'd be shocked if they did. Their defense was absolutely horrendous. I think it would be almost criminal not to go defense in much of their draft.
If they did go OT it would be for a LT which means the only recourse there would be to move Albert to Guard. But Albert did a very good job for the chiefs at LT. I'd be surprised if they did this as the chiefs have too many other pressing holes to fill
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I think the price for a franchise player is two number one picks
I think the price for a franchise player is two number one picks
It was a sign and trade, Rich, not a Restricted FA deal. The only compensation is that the Chiefs get Vrabel and Cassel for one second rounder.
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They are freeing up cap room.... if I remember right it is something like 16.1 million for one year. Now would you want a guy riding the pine for that kinda ching.
And yeah he is a non exclusive FA
I'm kinda curious on this move myself first it changes the way the draft will play out...... second how good is Cassel?
I don't think he is worth the hype. He was running an offence that went undefeated the prior year and an offence that put up some remarkable numbers. I think if Tom Brady was still the Qb all last season they would have been in the Super bowl..... take a look at there schedule kinda soft for a team that went 16-0 the previous season but that’s how everything rotates from year to year.
And I just overheard that Cassel was only really effective from shotgun.
Well you cant run the offence in shotgun the entire year and be successful. And lets see how well he does when the O-Line is not picking up the blitzes and he starts getting smashed. I'm not to keen on the K.C. roster but who does he have to throw the ball to... and older TE. So you take Randy Moss, Wess Welker out of the equation and you have... A QB with no weapons to throw the ball to, and a suspect O-line and running game.
As Next to nothing said it's being reported that a 3rd team is involved and that the Cassel to KC is not definite. As far as the picks are concerned I heard it was a 2nd round and some additional picks next year possibly as well...I also think Mike Vrabel was involved. Either way he wasn't franchised as was pointed out so the two first round picks do not apply.
As Next to nothing said it's being reported that a 3rd team is involved and that the Cassel to KC is not definite. As far as the picks are concerned I heard it was a 2nd round and some additional picks next year possibly as well...I also think Mike Vrabel was involved. Either way he wasn't franchised as was pointed out so the two first round picks do not apply.
I should of wrote that he "was or still is" a URFA then, but we allready knew he was. There was a trade so that all goes out the window.
If the deal goes through geting rid of Cassel is none the less opening up "more" cap space.
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Wow that makes KC a way better team in one day. Vrabel sucks, but to get Cassel with so little, nice move. Hopefully, KC drafts a OT to keep their new QB protected?
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Honestly what guarantees are there that Cassell does well outside of NE? He hadn't started a game since High School up until last season when the Pats put him in the starting line up. He had a formidable offensive line, Randy Moss and Wes Welker and a solid stable of RB especially with Faulk as the 3rd down guy. There are no guarantees he succeeds else where, especially Kansas City. I guess we'll find out. Vrabel was a throw away.
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Honestly what guarantees are there that Cassell does well outside of NE? He hadn't started a game since High School up until last season when the Pats put him in the starting line up. He had a formidable offensive line, Randy Moss and Wes Welker and a solid stable of RB especially with Faulk as the 3rd down guy. There are no guarantees he succeeds else where, especially Kansas City. I guess we'll find out. Vrabel was a throw away.
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i personally think it will work out well for both teams involved. the patriots get another pick to rebuild that battered, old defense and the chiefs address their number one concern. both teams benefit from this.
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QB's don't fare well in kc
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i personally think it will work out well for both teams involved. the patriots get another pick to rebuild that battered, old defense and the chiefs address their number one concern. both teams benefit from this.
i personally think it will work out well for both teams involved. the patriots get another pick to rebuild that battered, old defense and the chiefs address their number one concern. both teams benefit from this.
I agree, Cassel is less risky then drafting Sanchez or Stafford at 3. Can anyone honestly say that Pioli was goina stand by and watch Thigpen run his team?
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Zombo said:
Scott Pioli wasn't fooled. He knew exactly what was going on with Brady and with Cassel. In fact, he's the one that franchised Cassel ... then traded for him.
Makes you wonder if this was all worked out in advance.
Zombo
GREAT point Zombo! It's shadey and NE was already going to have multiple first day picks.
The weird thing is HOW MUCH better, if any, is lifetime backup Cassell than the 1 positive 2008 story in KC - Tyler Thigpen? Both are GREAT at the QB draw, but I gotta give bigger challenge to Thigpen since he didn't have Randy Moss' 4.3 verticality spreading defenders out while Welker cleared everything out underneathe.
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i hope Cassell busts huge!
why would you hope this? what has he done to you or any other browns fan? of course i hope he does poorly against the browns this year but i have nothing against cassel, nor should anyone else. i do however hope that brady busts and does not live up to his potential. however he probably won't
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I hope he doesn't work out in KC because pioli orchestrated this move in advance and helped both NE and KC and that is collusion....and cheating...so nothing against cassel but everything against NE & KC for cheating , right in front of us! Once a cheat always a cheat!
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I think the price for a franchise player is two number one picks
It was a sign and trade, Rich, not a Restricted FA deal. The only compensation is that the Chiefs get Vrabel and Cassel for one second rounder.
It was a sign and trade, Rich, not a Restricted FA deal. The only compensation is that the Chiefs get Vrabel and Cassel for one second rounder.
Understand, but indeed the Pats could have demanded two no 1's so they played a game with the 14 million of money........now KC has to spend 14 million on Cassel..........Belichick decided to get what he can get........and not pay the 14 million. bottom line NE did another good deal especially if Brady is healthy
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