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  • why cant we win W
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    W why cant we win wrote on last edited by
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    just seen it on sports center he signed with the seattle seahawks

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      DTBHD DTBH wrote on last edited by
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      5 years and 40 million is quite a bit for a guy who is 32 for a team who is no where near winning anything.

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        ? Masters wrote on last edited by
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        A healthy Matt Hasselbach, and that team is a 10~11 game winner again, with T.J as the #1 WR.

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          H heckofajobbrownie wrote on last edited by
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          Crabtree available at #5??

          Cool.

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            Crabtree available at #5??

            Cool.

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            W We need Tom Tupa wrote on last edited by
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            @heckofajobbrownie said:

            Crabtree available at #5??

            Cool.

            I agree.

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            • DTBHD DTBH

              5 years and 40 million is quite a bit for a guy who is 32 for a team who is no where near winning anything.

              Erie Dawg Erie DawgE
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              Erie DawgE Erie Dawg wrote on last edited by
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              @dtbh said:

              5 years and 40 million is quite a bit for a guy who is 32 for a team who is no where near winning anything.

              Don't forget the NFC west is the weakest in the NFL

              It don't take much to make the playoffs

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                Crabtree available at #5??

                Cool.

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                Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                @heckofajobbrownie said:

                Crabtree available at #5??

                Cool.

                Please no! A 6'1" guy that is not very fast and has a stress fracture as the #5 pick.

                I still think it helped that he played in a conference where no one played defense. Not one Big 12 team was in the top 50 defenses in yards per game allowed. Not one in the top 50! That is just sad.

                Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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                  WVBrownsfanW WVBrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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                  More money + Getting out of Cincy = Great move by T.J.

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                    @heckofajobbrownie said:

                    Crabtree available at #5??

                    Cool.

                    I agree.

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                    ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                    @we-need-tom-tupa said:

                    I agree.

                    As do I. If y'all can find a better alternative at #5, I'm all ears.

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                      @heckofajobbrownie said:

                      Crabtree available at #5??

                      Cool.

                      Please no! A 6'1" guy that is not very fast and has a stress fracture as the #5 pick.

                      I still think it helped that he played in a conference where no one played defense. Not one Big 12 team was in the top 50 defenses in yards per game allowed. Not one in the top 50! That is just sad.

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                      rich4eagleR rich4eagle wrote on last edited by
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                      oldcow1945 said:

                      Please no! A 6'1" guy that is not very fast and has a stress fracture as the #5 pick.

                      I still think it helped that he played in a conference where no one played defense. Not one Big 12 team was in the top 50 defenses in yards per game allowed. Not one in the top 50! That is just sad.

                      damm do I here sanity rising above moronity??????????????

                      Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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                        i've been bashing on Craptree for over a month now, now you guys are catching on, he is a fraud!

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                          Canton MikeC Canton Mike wrote on last edited by
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                          I really want to trade that pick, IF we can find a buyer. I don't want Crabtree either. Foot injuries do NOT heal quickly, & as stated before, we weren't talking burner speed BEFORE the injury.

                          Mike

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                            ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                            Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

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                              Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

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                              C CLEVELandMILIDH wrote on last edited by
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                              mz. said:

                              Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

                              You build a team from the inside out not the outside in. I would take the top player at any other position except TE before i ever took a WR in the top 5.

                              1st Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU 3rd Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State4th Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma5th Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State6th Lucas Reed, TE, New Mexico
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                                Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

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                                D dj_illness wrote on last edited by
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                                mz. said:

                                Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

                                Malallauga

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                                  Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

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                                  Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                                  mz. said:

                                  Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

                                  Philly and Minn could both be willing to trade up. Crabtree's value hasn't dropped. He played with the fracture all year and was the best receiver in college football. It's so obscure he didn't even know he had it. Both Crabtree and Maclin will be gone before Philly or Minn pick so they may very well be interested in trading up. Know that Hous is gone Philly has two first round picks and they need to get McNabb some playmakers around him or he isn't signing a contract extention.

                                  Also other trade possibilities out there. If Warner goes back to Ariz. San Fran wants Sanchez and will trade up from #10 to make sure they get him. Chicago also wants a QB and could very likely be interested in moving up ahead of San Fran.

                                  There are also 2 premier LTs available that many teams covet.

                                  So, what make you think we can't trade out of the pick if we want to. It comes down to the asking price and how far you are willing to trade down.

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                                    ? mz. wrote on last edited by
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                                    I agree with you, YTown, but trading down is NEVER easy, even if the trade makes a ton of sense for the team trading up. Especially when you figure what it takes to get into the top 5.

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                                      mz. said:

                                      Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

                                      Philly and Minn could both be willing to trade up. Crabtree's value hasn't dropped. He played with the fracture all year and was the best receiver in college football. It's so obscure he didn't even know he had it. Both Crabtree and Maclin will be gone before Philly or Minn pick so they may very well be interested in trading up. Know that Hous is gone Philly has two first round picks and they need to get McNabb some playmakers around him or he isn't signing a contract extention.

                                      Also other trade possibilities out there. If Warner goes back to Ariz. San Fran wants Sanchez and will trade up from #10 to make sure they get him. Chicago also wants a QB and could very likely be interested in moving up ahead of San Fran.

                                      There are also 2 premier LTs available that many teams covet.

                                      So, what make you think we can't trade out of the pick if we want to. It comes down to the asking price and how far you are willing to trade down.

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                                      @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                                      There are also 2 premier LTs available that many teams covet

                                      There may be only one, if the knee issue doctors flagged during Monroe's med eval at the combine proves to be serious.

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                                        I agree with you, YTown, but trading down is NEVER easy, even if the trade makes a ton of sense for the team trading up. Especially when you figure what it takes to get into the top 5.

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                                        Y YtownBrownsBacker wrote on last edited by
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                                        mz. said:

                                        I agree with you, YTown, but trading down is NEVER easy, even if the trade makes a ton of sense for the team trading up. Especially when you figure what it takes to get into the top 5.

                                        Most times the deals never come off because those with the high picks want too much. You can't ask Philly for both #1s to move up. If you want to move out of the position you take their top #1 and their 2nd. They still got two firsts and a 3rd and we get a mid round #1 and another 2nd rounder.

                                        If San Fran wants to trade up from #10 then you take their #10 and a 3rd. It all depends on how bad you want to move out of the position. Personally, I think their is as much value at # 16 or #18 as their is at #5 and it's a lot cheaper. This is a strong draft from #30 to #80 so I'd love to stock up on 2nd round picks.

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                                          mz. said:

                                          Again, since Aaron Curry won't be available and since we aren't going to be able to trade out of the 5th pick, who would you naysayers prefer over Crabtree?

                                          Philly and Minn could both be willing to trade up. Crabtree's value hasn't dropped. He played with the fracture all year and was the best receiver in college football. It's so obscure he didn't even know he had it. Both Crabtree and Maclin will be gone before Philly or Minn pick so they may very well be interested in trading up. Know that Hous is gone Philly has two first round picks and they need to get McNabb some playmakers around him or he isn't signing a contract extention.

                                          Also other trade possibilities out there. If Warner goes back to Ariz. San Fran wants Sanchez and will trade up from #10 to make sure they get him. Chicago also wants a QB and could very likely be interested in moving up ahead of San Fran.

                                          There are also 2 premier LTs available that many teams covet.

                                          So, what make you think we can't trade out of the pick if we want to. It comes down to the asking price and how far you are willing to trade down.

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                                          Oldcrow1945O Oldcrow1945 wrote on last edited by
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                                          @ytownbrownsbacker said:

                                          Philly and Minn could both be willing to trade up. Crabtree's value hasn't dropped. He played with the fracture all year

                                          This is not true.

                                          The doctors who performed the bone scan at the combines said it was a very recent injury. Probably came from training for the combines as recently as a week or two before.

                                          When he has surgery, a screw will be inserted into his foot and he'll be out for at least 8 to 10 weeks.

                                          Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote! - "Ben Franklin"
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