DA is just one component in a TEAM game.
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injuries to TUCKER, VICKERS, STEINBACH (4TH) QUARTER, STALLWORTH, BE constant every game drops are all MAJOR problems. Does Jamal run hard? Yes but his run stats are not good 66 yds per game average and 3 tds?
We are 27th ranked in rushing offense 28th against the rush and 24th in total yds allowed per game.
You cant win in the NFL if you cant run or stop the run plain and simple. Our key offensive line and fullback injuries today plus skill players is our formula for not winning.
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Maybe we can sign Lawrence Phillips out of jail to miss a blocking assignment and get DA slaughtered.
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osusev, u make it sound like the QB spot isn't anymore important than a special teams spot. Why do u think those guys slinging the ball get the big contracts? I know its a team sport, but the qb is running the offense out there and if he ain't functioning, the offense ain't functioning.
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We lost for two simple reasons
Horrible play calling ( lets run on first and secound on the best run defense and have 3rd and long all day long)
DA crumbles underpressure, and now I am saying it DA is a choke artists!!!
This is what the Browns are best at, make you think they are gonna do something only to fail completely, frankly I'm tired of it.
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Isn't it strange that, in this 'team' game, when the QB plays like shit, the TEAM usually loses?
Tell me how the QB isn't important, and then look at the effect of having a decent to good QB has on the effects of MIA and BUF. Show me how losing your GOOD QB to an injury affects DAL and NE.
No other position is AS important. No other position has as much effect on the team success. You can lose a WR or a tackle or a LB, and still win. If your QB is turning the ball over and not completing passes, you're almost assured of losing.
Does Derek go as the team goes (ie he's a victim?). If so, he's not starting QB material - a starter needs to lead and overcome poor play at other positions.
Or does the team go as Derek goes.
Either way, I'm don't want him as the long term solution.
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When will this DA madness stop? It's incredible the lengths people go to defend this guy. It really makes ZERO sense at this point.
Yes, football is a team game but COMPLETING PASSES IS SOLELY ON THE QB.
DA does not do that fundamental job very well. He simply does not complete enough passes to sustain drives.
Do you want to know why our D gets gashed by the run? Because they are on the field ALL THE TIME.
And they're just not good enough yet to make the big play to get off the field. Our coaches know that, which is why we play bend-don't-break D.
Which means having an offense that AT LEAST gets a few first downs each drive is CRUCIAL to the D's success. Therefore, having a QB who can complete more than 50% of his passes is ESSENTIAL to the O.
DA isn't that guy.
By the way, Jamal Lewis is slowing down big-time and his lack of burst is hurting the O. So answer me this:
If we had Chris Johnson or Matt Forte or Tim Hightower or Kevin Smith sitting on the bench, would you be okay with that too?
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By the way, Jamal Lewis is slowing down big-time and his lack of burst is hurting the O. So answer me this:If we had Chris Johnson or Matt Forte or Tim Hightower or Kevin Smith sitting on the bench, would you be okay with that too?
Jamal looked fast at times last week, but I can see his decrease in speed even on TV.
To answer your question: No, I wouldn't be OK with that. Actually we have Wright and Harrison on the bench and I'm not ok with them never being used.
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We had ONE Rushing First Down Today .... one .... it came in the second quarter. Despite being ahead by TWO Touchdowns, where you all tell me that Jamal doesn't have great stats because we are always playing from behind ... we failed to move the chains on the ground despite the lead.
Meanwhile Rice had 154 yrds on 23 carries for a 7.3 average and you guys want to pin the blame on the QB? Mason had 9 catches for 136 yrds and Clayton 4 catches for 87 yards and Flacco had a 109 QB rating, and you guys want to blame our QB?
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Jamal is not a speed back, he is a power back but we were playing the Ravens today. We shouldnt have been running the ball except maybe 10 times, just enough to say we did. Their secondary was banged up but yet we are running on 1st and 2nd against the best run defense, ofcourse Jamal is going to look bad. We should have spread things out and made that defense chase our receivers and tightends all day long. Horrible game plan, its not just DA its the coaches as well. Weather that is due to lack of confidence in DA or they are just that inept I dont know but game management has been horrible. Dont get me wrong DA is a huge factor, he cannot handle pressure what so ever. Down 3 with 3 minutes left, you drive down the field and win the game, that simple, you dont throw an interception. Why the hell did we have a screen called on that play anyway, we know DA cant handle only throwing the ball for 5 yards. I would love to know is completion % on 5 yards or less, I bet it is the worst in the league.
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Ate, there is no doubt that Lewis has lost his burst. He's a tough, crafty vet now. He should be our Jerome Bettis, our LenDale White and Harrison should be our Parker, our Johnson. There is no doubt our running game is hurting.
And our run D is suspect. We lack impact linemen other than The BEAST and our LBs suck.
But you know what makes those things better? Points. And long drives. Fueled by pass completions.
Which we aren't getting from DA.
So, much like we need to see more Wright/Harrison and more Heiden with Winslow we need to see more completions and more drives and more first downs.
DA obviously can't get it done. Enough already.
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We had ONE Rushing First Down Today .... one .... it came in the second quarter. Despite being ahead by TWO Touchdowns, where you all tell me that Jamal doesn't have great stats because we are always playing from behind ... we failed to move the chains on the ground despite the lead.Meanwhile Rice had 154 yrds on 23 carries for a 7.3 average and you guys want to pin the blame on the QB? Mason had 9 catches for 136 yrds and Clayton 4 catches for 87 yards and Flacco had a 109 QB rating, and you guys want to blame our QB?
Let me remind you that BALT is the #1 rush D in the league, giving up only 64 yards a game and a 2.8y/c average. So CLE today pretty much did what EVERY TEAM THAT HAS FACED BALTS D HAS DONE.
How does a rookie starter show more poise and make less mistakes than a guy with 20+ starts and his second year in a system?
Look, CLE lost because of a lot of reasons today. But that does not absolve DA of the blame he deserves. Pick 6 with the game on the line and completing less than half of his passes with both starting CBs out for the other team is inexcuseable.
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I think history will judge him in the Jim Everett area.
Or Tommy Maddox, in more ways than one I guess.
Scott Mitchell
And one more thing for defending DA, lets all not forget that one of the TDs on the board was a Cribbs return and another was pick that few WR could have taken away from a DB.
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Scott MitchellAnd one more thing for defending DA, lets all not forget that one of the TDs on the board was a Cribbs return and another was pick that few WR could have taken away from a DB.
And Jason Wright never broke the plane.
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This is becoming a sort of DA religion war and I don't think that's right.
Yes, the QB is just one eleventh of the offense. But he handles the ball on every snap and at least half of those snaps are for passes. Just because of that he cannot be considered one eleventh of the team.
Look at the Falcons. They have a rookie at the helm and they don't have a better team than the Browns.
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... the losing component.
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This is becoming a sort of DA religion war and I don't think that's right.Yes, the QB is just one eleventh of the offense. But he handles the ball on every snap and at least half of those snaps are for passes. Just because of that he cannot be considered one eleventh of the team.
Look at the Falcons. They have a rookie at the helm and they don't have a better team than the Browns.
Yes, look at Atlanta!!!!! LOL, the #1 Rushing team in the League ... yes, look to them and scratch head as to why their QB gets pimped for having a less completion percentage than Derek Anderson.
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