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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #2

    Damn them.

    Does this push them to the leaderboard for best draft (even if La'el Collins went undrafted)?

    With Gregory, Jones and Collins, they got 3 of CBS' Top 20. Unfortunately, the rest of their draft was basically garbage (if you judge solely on ranking grades) - as the rest of their picks hovered in the 190 -300 range.

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    Damn them.

    Does this push them to the leaderboard for best draft (even if La'el Collins went undrafted)?

    With Gregory, Jones and Collins, they got 3 of CBS' Top 20. Unfortunately, the rest of their draft was basically garbage (if you judge solely on ranking grades) - as the rest of their picks hovered in the 190 -300 range.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #3

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Damn them.

    Does this push them to the leaderboard for best draft (even if La'el Collins went undrafted)?

    With Gregory, Jones and Collins, they got 3 of CBS' Top 20. Unfortunately, the rest of their draft was basically garbage (if you judge solely on ranking grades) - as the rest of their picks hovered in the 190 -300 range.

    Maybe the Cowboys are the team that needs a new Motto. How about: Risky Business? The question is: who is going to get fucked on a train....the Cowboys or their opponents?

  • Opal312O Opal312 wrote on
    #4

    Do you know how much the contract was for? I bet they got him on the cheap.

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  • Opal312O Opal312

    Do you know how much the contract was for? I bet they got him on the cheap.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on
    #5

    @opal312 said:

    Do you know how much the contract was for? I bet they got him on the cheap.

    Fully guaranteed with performance and max roster bonuses. Should be worth $1.7 million over 3 years.

    If he gets a high RFA tender in 2018, he could end up making more than most second round picks this year. Not a bad move by his agent, to be completely honest.

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  • W Westside Steve wrote on
    #6

    I don't know why we didn't risk a low pick.

    But yeah it was a smart move for him.

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  • B BaconHound wrote on
    #7

    A steal if they wrote into the contract suspension language. If he plays this could very well be the steal of the draft. I thought the Browns should pulled the trigger in the 6th but rumor was he was asking for 2nd, 3rd round money, fucking rumors.

  • runyon27R runyon27 wrote on
    #8

    I still dont understand why someone didn't draft him in the 7th, especially those teams with compensatory picks. Its a free pick in the last round. I wanted us to pick him or Ifo in the 7th and we took Ifo so I was fine with that. The Cowboys line already probably the best just got better.

  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #9

    Understand the Kid was tied into a terrible situation at the worst time but, I believe his Rookie Contract would have been the same at any team but know the Kid can pick the team HE wants to play for??? WOW to that coming out of College.. Hell a clean Lebron and Kobe came out of HS had no choice like that.. Somebody should have took him later the better. Lesson Learned..

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  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on
    #10

    I think there was an agreement between all the teams and the league that nobody would draft him. There is no reason someone didnt make him a 7th round pick

  • Flyin JF Flyin J

    I think there was an agreement between all the teams and the league that nobody would draft him. There is no reason someone didnt make him a 7th round pick

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #11

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I think there was an agreement between all the teams and the league that nobody would draft him. There is no reason someone didnt make him a 7th round pick

    His agent made it clear that he wouldn't sign a contract if drafted on day 3.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    XxDaBuckeyexX said:

    I think there was an agreement between all the teams and the league that nobody would draft him. There is no reason someone didnt make him a 7th round pick

    His agent made it clear that he wouldn't sign a contract if drafted on day 3.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #12

    @gftchris said:

    His agent made it clear that he wouldn't sign a contract if drafted on day 3.

    yep.....his team definitely put the word out NOT to draft him....

    Im sure a team could have, but that would've been a real contentious start for anybody who really wanted him......

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #13

    So basically, the player dictated to the NFL with who he would play for.......... Dangerous precedent to say the least.

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  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out

    @opal312 said:

    Do you know how much the contract was for? I bet they got him on the cheap.

    Fully guaranteed with performance and max roster bonuses. Should be worth $1.7 million over 3 years.

    If he gets a high RFA tender in 2018, he could end up making more than most second round picks this year. Not a bad move by his agent, to be completely honest.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #14

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Fully guaranteed with performance and max roster bonuses. Should be worth $1.7 million over 3 years.

    Contract can also be renegotiated as part of an extention in year 3 and Jerrah promised to do so...

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  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on
    #15

    and if hardy, gregory and collins turn out to be what a lot of suspicious-minded people think they will then jones looks like the biggest ass in the league.

    can't wait to see what happens when the trio starts smoking bath salts.....

  • D BoneD D Bone

    So basically, the player dictated to the NFL with who he would play for.......... Dangerous precedent to say the least.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #16

    @d-bone said:

    So basically, the player dictated to the NFL with who he would play for.......... Dangerous precedent to say the least.

    A player selecting a team is not exactly unprecedented... Elway? Eli? Bernie?

    The difference is that the above all landed 1st-round money in their rookie contract while Collins lost millions that he will never recoup even if he stays healthy for two years. So Collins has blazed a trail that I don't see anyone barreling down behind him anytime soon..

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    @d-bone said:

    So basically, the player dictated to the NFL with who he would play for.......... Dangerous precedent to say the least.

    A player selecting a team is not exactly unprecedented... Elway? Eli? Bernie?

    The difference is that the above all landed 1st-round money in their rookie contract while Collins lost millions that he will never recoup even if he stays healthy for two years. So Collins has blazed a trail that I don't see anyone barreling down behind him anytime soon..

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #17

    @tour2ma said:

    A player selecting a team is not exactly unprecedented... Elway? Eli? Bernie?

    The difference here is that all of those players were drafted by a team and/or then traded to another team, all of which was totally out of their control. Sure, they could choose not to play for the team that drafted/traded for them, but that was their only recourse. Collins completely and totally controlled his outcome and was able to sign with whatever team he wanted.

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  • gumby73G gumby73 wrote on
    #18

    Anybody got Collins Agent Name?? He Lost money on this deal also but Damn he knows his Shit for his Client. Don't need our guys hanging with this Hard Baller!!

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  • D BoneD D Bone

    @tour2ma said:

    A player selecting a team is not exactly unprecedented... Elway? Eli? Bernie?

    The difference here is that all of those players were drafted by a team and/or then traded to another team, all of which was totally out of their control. Sure, they could choose not to play for the team that drafted/traded for them, but that was their only recourse. Collins completely and totally controlled his outcome and was able to sign with whatever team he wanted.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #19

    @d-bone said:

    Collins completely and totally controlled his outcome and was able to sign with whatever team he wanted.

    Granted... but it cost him...

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    @d-bone said:

    Collins completely and totally controlled his outcome and was able to sign with whatever team he wanted.

    Granted... but it cost him...

    B BaconHound wrote on
    #20

    @tour2ma said:

    Granted... but it cost him...

    It did and not the first time. Most recently Eli Manning controlled his draft position and got paid!

  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #21

    Of all the teams he could have signed for he chose the Cowboys who already have a great O line. Found that a bit weird

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