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  • No suprise the stoolers are #2.

  • I also noticed that 7-8 out of the top 10 are usually in the playoffs

    And the bottom 10 usaully are not

  • I think we just had this in another thread.

  • I think we just had this in another thread.

    @the-gipper said:

    I think we just had this in another thread.

    I don't read ever post, especially the ones Cal starts

    so it very well could have been in another thread

  • @westside-steve said:

    That was interesting - thanks Steve!

    They did a pretty good job for the most part. If I had my say I'd rearrange Pittsburgh to #1 and NE to #2 though.

  • Yeah, I don't see how they have NE so low. Flugels nailed it - the Celtics played like a steeler,

    and took out Kevin Love's arm. They still lost, though. And now the Bulls tried rough and tumble

    basketball, and they now have deflated balls. Yep, NE at 2, but the stinkin steelers at #1 sounds right.

  • And how do we close this massive gap between us and them dammit? 😆 :lol:

  • Cool topic, not going to dispute anything except that it is beyond silly to consider steroid usage back in the day as cheating when it was not against the rules to use them.

    Players were ignorant back then of its adverse affects. Not even sure if medical science had a grip on the adverse affects....theres something to be said about that if it took until 1987 for the NFL to ban steroids.

    If a player today found some super duper power drink of the drugstore shelf that he feels gives him a competitive edge would he be cheating as well? Steroids were treaded as such then.

    This article also relays the common impression that the entire Steeler team was on them, um.. Joe Green, LC, Blount, etc did not use them, the entire D did not use them, only a few O linemen.

    Bradshaw says he used them for pain, but if you were an O lineman that had to face the Steeler front four D in practice every day, youd probably want to be on roids too.haha

    The facts.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/232404-the-steelers-steroids-and-profound-misconceptions

  • The facts.

    http://bleacherrepor...-misconceptions

    I don't think that report...or you or I or anyone probably knows the true facts.

  • stuart showed his true colors as a steeler fan.

    doesn't he get minus points for being a liar?

  • Fuck the loose-labia Patriots.

    That is all.

  • The steelers are the dirtiest team in the NFL. Since 2010, they have the most players

    fined for dirty crap in the entire NFL.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2015/5/16/8614775/the-pittsburgh-steelers-history-of-cheating

    Since 2010, the Steelers have the most players fined or suspended for blatantly dangerous and illegal hits on opponents.

  • Cool topic, not going to dispute anything except that it is beyond silly to consider steroid usage back in the day as cheating when it was not against the rules to use them.

    Players were ignorant back then of its adverse affects. Not even sure if medical science had a grip on the adverse affects....theres something to be said about that if it took until 1987 for the NFL to ban steroids.

    If a player today found some super duper power drink of the drugstore shelf that he feels gives him a competitive edge would he be cheating as well? Steroids were treaded as such then.

    This article also relays the common impression that the entire Steeler team was on them, um.. Joe Green, LC, Blount, etc did not use them, the entire D did not use them, only a few O linemen.

    Bradshaw says he used them for pain, but if you were an O lineman that had to face the Steeler front four D in practice every day, youd probably want to be on roids too.haha

    The facts.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/232404-the-steelers-steroids-and-profound-misconceptions

    Stuart said:

    Cool topic, not going to dispute anything except that it is beyond silly to consider steroid usage back in the day as cheating when it was not against the rules to use them.

    Players were ignorant back then of its adverse affects. Not even sure if medical science had a grip on the adverse affects....theres something to be said about that if it took until 1987 for the NFL to ban steroids.

    If a player today found some super duper power drink of the drugstore shelf that he feels gives him a competitive edge would he be cheating as well? Steroids were treaded as such then.

    This article also relays the common impression that the entire Steeler team was on them, um.. Joe Green, LC, Blount, etc did not use them, the entire D did not use them, only a few O linemen.

    Bradshaw says he used them for pain, but if you were an O lineman that had to face the Steeler front four D in practice every day, youd probably want to be on roids too.haha

    The facts.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/232404-the-steelers-steroids-and-profound-misconceptions

    One for the thumb wasn't possible without a ton in the ass. IV needles that is. Sports Illustrated did an extensive study and overview of their findings of all the premature death and disability of former Steelers before/around age 50. That was long before a former Steeler Steve Courson expressed a guilty conscience in his "False Glory: Steelers and Steroids." You might want to read some of that before acting like just a couple guys roided up. The Pittsburgh Steeroids basically Jerry Garcia'd steroids far more pervasively than any other team as written by one of them (that played on 2 other franchises).

    Rooney has employed an HGH Doctor and a Deputy to his Pittsburgh Steeler payroll.

    Somebody put some serious cake down behind the scenes for that farce of a Superbowl in Detroit turned into a Jerome Bettis retirement party. All you had to do was watch that farce to realize it was officiated by guys like Dewey Cheatem, Howie Phuckum, and Dick Eweover.

    As news broke that Pittsburgh had a team doctor being investigated for his purchase of excessive quantities of HGH, it was time to find a new NFL Commissioner. Guess what NFL owner wanted to be in charge of that process? When it was finally time to deliver the news to the 2 candidates - the Carolina owner (Richardson) got to tell the guy who didn't get the gig. Rooney got to go Roger's hotel room to share the good news and hugs for all the hard core campaigning Rooney did on Roger's behalf to win the vote of owners in a land side. If anyone thinks that wasn't a precalculated maneuver to leave the new NFL Commissioner forever in debt, I have quick sand for sale in alligator alley...

    So where specifically might this come in handy? Well, guys like Pouncey can get arrested in August of 2014 without missing 1 game to suspension. After the world learned Ben Rapen had victim #2 (with an off duty cop securing the door) Ben later got his suspension reduced by 1 game for terrific behavior. Instead of frequently suspending James Harrison for the unofficial head hunting license he was given - Roger opted to FINE Harrison rather than impact his close buddy Rooney's bottom line with any more suspensions to Harrison.

    Not for nothing, but I'm not impressed with finally suspending Bell in 2015 for what he did in August of 2014. This gave Pittsburgh a chance to add DeAngelo Williams in the offseason while it also allows a guy coming off a knee injury to shorten his wear and tear by however many games. Meanwhile, the other guy Blount is on another team. How much did any of that hurt Rooney's win loss column? The reality is Pittsburgh doesn't win that 2014 opener without their Cheech & Chong plus Pouncey impcting their running game, which also means they don't make the playoffs...

    I've been watching that franchise get special favors from NFL Commissioners for decades from all the calculated moves of a street smart ownership family. If Sandusky was under that roof taking groinal inventories and fanny temperatures; he still be every bit the free man Ben Rapen is. When a Defensive League MVP caliber talent like James Harrison has caused his wife to need a battered women's support group/shelter for the rest of their marriage- ONLY Pittsburgh can power spin that into him being a hero for handing over the fine money from fans for his NFL head shots to that group. Stories like Greg Lloyd tying is wife and Junior to chairs while putting a pistol to the wife's temple - sure got quieted ultra fast behind the scenes in case anyone wondered why there was a need to have a deputy on the payroll. It's street smart brilliance from an ownership that doesn't want roid rage getting public attention. For a franchise that got mapped from their invasive/pervasive steroid abuse - it's smellier than a Friday Night fish fry that the only starter in Pittsburgh ever suspended for roids was Joel Steed (twice). Brentston Buckner wasn't caught and suspended until he wore a Carolina uniform interestingly enough. Did the Rooneys have such a control over Goodell that they once determined who's urine could be tested and who was off limits in the random selection process allegedly? Then again, their HGH Doctor had them a step ahead in the black market world drug of choice thing. Is it just a coincidence that Polly and Ike Taylor lost about 2-3 steps once the league started testing for HGH to the extent where retiring was their only option? Even a 3-4 year vet like Worilds felt compelled to retire too.

  • Cool topic, not going to dispute anything except that it is beyond silly to consider steroid usage back in the day as cheating when it was not against the rules to use them.

    Players were ignorant back then of its adverse affects. Not even sure if medical science had a grip on the adverse affects....theres something to be said about that if it took until 1987 for the NFL to ban steroids.

    If a player today found some super duper power drink of the drugstore shelf that he feels gives him a competitive edge would he be cheating as well? Steroids were treaded as such then.

    This article also relays the common impression that the entire Steeler team was on them, um.. Joe Green, LC, Blount, etc did not use them, the entire D did not use them, only a few O linemen.

    Bradshaw says he used them for pain, but if you were an O lineman that had to face the Steeler front four D in practice every day, youd probably want to be on roids too.haha

    The facts.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/232404-the-steelers-steroids-and-profound-misconceptions

    Stuart said:

    Cool topic, not going to dispute anything except that it is beyond silly to consider steroid usage back in the day as cheating when it was not against the rules to use them.

    Players were ignorant back then of its adverse affects. Not even sure if medical science had a grip on the adverse affects....theres something to be said about that if it took until 1987 for the NFL to ban steroids.

    If a player today found some super duper power drink of the drugstore shelf that he feels gives him a competitive edge would he be cheating as well? Steroids were treaded as such then.

    This article also relays the common impression that the entire Steeler team was on them, um.. Joe Green, LC, Blount, etc did not use them, the entire D did not use them, only a few O linemen.

    Bradshaw says he used them for pain, but if you were an O lineman that had to face the Steeler front four D in practice every day, youd probably want to be on roids too.haha

    The facts.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/232404-the-steelers-steroids-and-profound-misconceptions

    then why are there more former Steeler players under the age of 50 dead than the rest of the NFL combined? that stat was still true a couple years ago, haven't checked it recently. if not roids still something definitely amiss there.

  • sorry Flugs hadn't read that far when i posted. but +1

  • sorry Flugs hadn't read that far when i posted. but +1

    @sisky-fringo said:

    sorry Flugs hadn't read that far when i posted. but +1

    No biggy. Thanks!

    I enjoy watching NE make grown men in Pittsburgh cry about how much they've been getting away with. It's almost like they want us to see the same Disney makeover their denial lenses have had in 20/20 focus since it began relying on a bunch of IV needle junkies to map that program for the first time in the 70s.

    I've never found any reason for our fan base to be the least bit envious of that. They're gonna need David Copperfield, hallucingogens and some of those date rape drugs Ben Rapen doesn't need to use any more to alter my 20/20 of what's really been going on with the Pittsburgh Stee-roids all these years. That ain't happening...

  • Stuart said:

    Cool topic, not going to dispute anything except that it is beyond silly to consider steroid usage back in the day as cheating when it was not against the rules to use them.

    Players were ignorant back then of its adverse affects. Not even sure if medical science had a grip on the adverse affects....theres something to be said about that if it took until 1987 for the NFL to ban steroids.

    If a player today found some super duper power drink of the drugstore shelf that he feels gives him a competitive edge would he be cheating as well? Steroids were treaded as such then.

    This article also relays the common impression that the entire Steeler team was on them, um.. Joe Green, LC, Blount, etc did not use them, the entire D did not use them, only a few O linemen.

    Bradshaw says he used them for pain, but if you were an O lineman that had to face the Steeler front four D in practice every day, youd probably want to be on roids too.haha

    The facts.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/232404-the-steelers-steroids-and-profound-misconceptions

    One for the thumb wasn't possible without a ton in the ass. IV needles that is. Sports Illustrated did an extensive study and overview of their findings of all the premature death and disability of former Steelers before/around age 50. That was long before a former Steeler Steve Courson expressed a guilty conscience in his "False Glory: Steelers and Steroids." You might want to read some of that before acting like just a couple guys roided up. The Pittsburgh Steeroids basically Jerry Garcia'd steroids far more pervasively than any other team as written by one of them (that played on 2 other franchises).

    Rooney has employed an HGH Doctor and a Deputy to his Pittsburgh Steeler payroll.

    Somebody put some serious cake down behind the scenes for that farce of a Superbowl in Detroit turned into a Jerome Bettis retirement party. All you had to do was watch that farce to realize it was officiated by guys like Dewey Cheatem, Howie Phuckum, and Dick Eweover.

    As news broke that Pittsburgh had a team doctor being investigated for his purchase of excessive quantities of HGH, it was time to find a new NFL Commissioner. Guess what NFL owner wanted to be in charge of that process? When it was finally time to deliver the news to the 2 candidates - the Carolina owner (Richardson) got to tell the guy who didn't get the gig. Rooney got to go Roger's hotel room to share the good news and hugs for all the hard core campaigning Rooney did on Roger's behalf to win the vote of owners in a land side. If anyone thinks that wasn't a precalculated maneuver to leave the new NFL Commissioner forever in debt, I have quick sand for sale in alligator alley...

    So where specifically might this come in handy? Well, guys like Pouncey can get arrested in August of 2014 without missing 1 game to suspension. After the world learned Ben Rapen had victim #2 (with an off duty cop securing the door) Ben later got his suspension reduced by 1 game for terrific behavior. Instead of frequently suspending James Harrison for the unofficial head hunting license he was given - Roger opted to FINE Harrison rather than impact his close buddy Rooney's bottom line with any more suspensions to Harrison.

    Not for nothing, but I'm not impressed with finally suspending Bell in 2015 for what he did in August of 2014. This gave Pittsburgh a chance to add DeAngelo Williams in the offseason while it also allows a guy coming off a knee injury to shorten his wear and tear by however many games. Meanwhile, the other guy Blount is on another team. How much did any of that hurt Rooney's win loss column? The reality is Pittsburgh doesn't win that 2014 opener without their Cheech & Chong plus Pouncey impcting their running game, which also means they don't make the playoffs...

    I've been watching that franchise get special favors from NFL Commissioners for decades from all the calculated moves of a street smart ownership family. If Sandusky was under that roof taking groinal inventories and fanny temperatures; he still be every bit the free man Ben Rapen is. When a Defensive League MVP caliber talent like James Harrison has caused his wife to need a battered women's support group/shelter for the rest of their marriage- ONLY Pittsburgh can power spin that into him being a hero for handing over the fine money from fans for his NFL head shots to that group. Stories like Greg Lloyd tying is wife and Junior to chairs while putting a pistol to the wife's temple - sure got quieted ultra fast behind the scenes in case anyone wondered why there was a need to have a deputy on the payroll. It's street smart brilliance from an ownership that doesn't want roid rage getting public attention. For a franchise that got mapped from their invasive/pervasive steroid abuse - it's smellier than a Friday Night fish fry that the only starter in Pittsburgh ever suspended for roids was Joel Steed (twice). Brentston Buckner wasn't caught and suspended until he wore a Carolina uniform interestingly enough. Did the Rooneys have such a control over Goodell that they once determined who's urine could be tested and who was off limits in the random selection process allegedly? Then again, their HGH Doctor had them a step ahead in the black market world drug of choice thing. Is it just a coincidence that Polly and Ike Taylor lost about 2-3 steps once the league started testing for HGH to the extent where retiring was their only option? Even a 3-4 year vet like Worilds felt compelled to retire too.

    @flugel said:

    One for the thumb wasn't possible without a ton in the ass. IV needles that is. Sports Illustrated did an extensive study and overview of their findings of all the premature death and disability of former Steelers before/around age 50. That was long before a former Steeler Steve Courson expressed a guilty conscience in his "False Glory: Steelers and Steroids." You might want to read some of that before acting like just a couple guys roided up. The Pittsburgh Steeroids basically Jerry Garcia'd steroids far more pervasively than any other team as written by one of them (that played on 2 other franchises).

    Rooney has employed an HGH Doctor and a Deputy to his Pittsburgh Steeler payroll.

    Somebody put some serious cake down behind the scenes for that farce of a Superbowl in Detroit turned into a Jerome Bettis retirement party. All you had to do was watch that farce to realize it was officiated by guys like Dewey Cheatem, Howie Phuckum, and Dick Eweover.

    As news broke that Pittsburgh had a team doctor being investigated for his purchase of excessive quantities of HGH, it was time to find a new NFL Commissioner. Guess what NFL owner wanted to be in charge of that process? When it was finally time to deliver the news to the 2 candidates - the Carolina owner (Richardson) got to tell the guy who didn't get the gig. Rooney got to go Roger's hotel room to share the good news and hugs for all the hard core campaigning Rooney did on Roger's behalf to win the vote of owners in a land side. If anyone thinks that wasn't a precalculated maneuver to leave the new NFL Commissioner forever in debt, I have quick sand for sale in alligator alley...

    So where specifically might this come in handy? Well, guys like Pouncey can get arrested in August of 2014 without missing 1 game to suspension. After the world learned Ben Rapen had victim #2 (with an off duty cop securing the door) Ben later got his suspension reduced by 1 game for terrific behavior. Instead of frequently suspending James Harrison for the unofficial head hunting license he was given - Roger opted to FINE Harrison rather than impact his close buddy Rooney's bottom line with any more suspensions to Harrison.

    Not for nothing, but I'm not impressed with finally suspending Bell in 2015 for what he did in August of 2014. This gave Pittsburgh a chance to add DeAngelo Williams in the offseason while it also allows a guy coming off a knee injury to shorten his wear and tear by however many games. Meanwhile, the other guy Blount is on another team. How much did any of that hurt Rooney's win loss column? The reality is Pittsburgh doesn't win that 2014 opener without their Cheech & Chong plus Pouncey impcting their running game, which also means they don't make the playoffs...

    I've been watching that franchise get special favors from NFL Commissioners for decades from all the calculated moves of a street smart ownership family. If Sandusky was under that roof taking groinal inventories and fanny temperatures; he still be every bit the free man Ben Rapen is. When a Defensive League MVP caliber talent like James Harrison has caused his wife to need a battered women's support group/shelter for the rest of their marriage- ONLY Pittsburgh can power spin that into him being a hero for handing over the fine money from fans for his NFL head shots to that group. Stories like Greg Lloyd tying is wife and Junior to chairs while putting a pistol to the wife's temple - sure got quieted ultra fast behind the scenes in case anyone wondered why there was a need to have a deputy on the payroll. It's street smart brilliance from an ownership that doesn't want roid rage getting public attention. For a franchise that got mapped from their invasive/pervasive steroid abuse - it's smellier than a Friday Night fish fry that the only starter in Pittsburgh ever suspended for roids was Joel Steed (twice). Brentston Buckner wasn't caught and suspended until he wore a Carolina uniform interestingly enough. Did the Rooneys have such a control over Goodell that they once determined who's urine could be tested and who was off limits in the random selection process allegedly? Then again, their HGH Doctor had them a step ahead in the black market world drug of choice thing. Is it just a coincidence that Polly and Ike Taylor lost about 2-3 steps once the league started testing for HGH to the extent where retiring was their only option? Even a 3-4 year vet like Worilds felt compelled to retire too.

    Why so bitter?

  • The steelers are the dirtiest team in the NFL. Since 2010, they have the most players

    fined for dirty crap in the entire NFL.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2015/5/16/8614775/the-pittsburgh-steelers-history-of-cheating

    Since 2010, the Steelers have the most players fined or suspended for blatantly dangerous and illegal hits on opponents.

    @calfoxwc said:

    The steelers are the dirtiest team in the NFL. Since 2010, they have the most players

    fined for dirty crap in the entire NFL.

    http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2015/5/16/8614775/the-pittsburgh-steelers-history-of-cheating

    Since 2010, the Steelers have the most players fined or suspended for blatantly dangerous and illegal hits on opponents.

    And the Browns stink. Next.

  • @josephsuxdick said:

    Yes, the thousand drooling rants you've made here just proves it.

    Flugel needs his/her tampon changed. It must suck being a bitter Browns fan and obsessing over another team like that.