Who is your favorite football announcer/commentator?
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Grew up on Jim Graner and Gib Shanley doing Browns games.
Since your question didn't limit it to NFL broadcasters you have to include Keith Jackson as a college football announcer.....not so much pro.
Another guy's voice associate with college was Lindsay Nelson.
Again, back in the day Ray Scott I think did all the Packers games on TV it seemed.
Sorry....but Doug Dieken is bad. He may know his stuff, but he is not articulate.
Musberger is much better as a play by play guy than he was as a studio host.
Gowdy probably was much better as a hunting and fishing announcer
Lynn Swann was probably the worst ever....he could seemingly hardly speak English.
But, the best duo.....I will go with Z and Summerall/Brookshire.
And you know what? When OJ gets out of jail I would like to see him do announcing again.....just for the pure irony/fun/ridiculousness of it.
Grew up on Jim Graner and Gib Shanley doing Browns games.
Since your question didn't limit it to NFL broadcasters you have to include Keith Jackson as a college football announcer.....not so much pro.
Another guy's voice associate with college was Lindsay Nelson.
Again, back in the day Ray Scott I think did all the Packers games on TV it seemed.
Sorry....but Doug Dieken is bad. He may know his stuff, but he is not articulate.
Musberger is much better as a play by play guy than he was as a studio host.
Gowdy probably was much better as a hunting and fishing announcer
Lynn Swann was probably the worst ever....he could seemingly hardly speak English.
But, the best duo.....I will go with Z and Summerall/Brookshire.
And you know what? When OJ gets out of jail I would like to see him do announcing again.....just for the pure irony/fun/ridiculousness of it.
Maybe OJ can do some NASCAR
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You can't have a list of worst-ever without mentioning Myron Cope.
Dear bleeding Christ.
That screeching voice and the most non-objective commentary ever. Perhaps only equaled by the
Atlanta Braves broadcasters (Skip Carey, etc.) on the Superstation in the '90's. Incapable of acknowledging
a good play by the opposing team while waxing on and on and on over the must mundane and routine
plays by the home team.
You can't have a list of worst-ever without mentioning Myron Cope.
Dear bleeding Christ.
That screeching voice and the most non-objective commentary ever. Perhaps only equaled by the
Atlanta Braves broadcasters (Skip Carey, etc.) on the Superstation in the '90's. Incapable of acknowledging
a good play by the opposing team while waxing on and on and on over the must mundane and routine
plays by the home team.
Oh you're just mad Cope made fun of the browns a lot lol.
Seriously though, when Cope was the lead play by play guy yes, agree, a bit hard to take...but when Hillgrove started doing the play by play, Copes function became to add his 2 cents, like Deacon. Except Deacon is boring, Cope was hilarious, a looney tune.
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Too hard for me to pin down just one guy.
I liked Madden, Jackson some of Grudden's stuff even is nice. I will say, if it wasn't for Musberger, the Bucks wouldn't have some of those legendary calls.
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You can't have a list of worst-ever without mentioning Myron Cope.
Dear bleeding Christ.
That screeching voice and the most non-objective commentary ever. Perhaps only equaled by the
Atlanta Braves broadcasters (Skip Carey, etc.) on the Superstation in the '90's. Incapable of acknowledging
a good play by the opposing team while waxing on and on and on over the must mundane and routine
plays by the home team.
You can't have a list of worst-ever without mentioning Myron Cope.
Dear bleeding Christ.
That screeching voice and the most non-objective commentary ever. Perhaps only equaled by the
Atlanta Braves broadcasters (Skip Carey, etc.) on the Superstation in the '90's. Incapable of acknowledging
a good play by the opposing team while waxing on and on and on over the must mundane and routine
plays by the home team.
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Stuart said:
Oh you're just mad Cope made fun of the browns a lot lol.
Seriously though, when Cope was the lead play by play guy yes, agree, a bit hard to take...but when Hillgrove started doing the play by play, Copes function became to add his 2 cents, like Deacon. Except Deacon is boring, Cope was hilarious, a looney tune.
Nope, Cope was horrible- except to Steeler Homers. Grating voice, and was pointed out before- homer city. Only surpassed in recent times by Dave Lapham of Bungle radio.
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many good one's mentioned. left out was Bernie for preseason...i can take most nowadays. i am happy with Ian Eagle and Solomon Wilcots for professional weekly Browns calls on the tube. when we get them, i prefer them to dealing w the delay from radio to tv to have Jimmy D.
two I abhor are Dan fucking Dickdorf and Phuck Sucks...i mean Phil Simms. horribly biased, i will take no sound over either of those assholes.
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Everyone is going to hate everyone, so these discussions always kinda suck. I for one like Collinsworth a lot. He sees things others don't see and he's also a big time partner in the PFF operation.
I also love ole Gary Danielson because he similarly finds things others don't. I thought Greg McElroy also showed a lot of promise as a rookie calling games last season. He was phenomenal.
Can't stand Gus Johnson. He would be awesome on radio, but the schtick is excessive on TV.
Everyone is going to hate everyone, so these discussions always kinda suck. I for one like Collinsworth a lot.
Agree on both counts... I liked Summerall and Brookshire. Madden got old really fast.
My all-time favs...
Lead announcer: Keith Jackson. Bob Griese and Pat Haden were two of his better sidekicks. Have to give Ken Coleman an honorable mention for his Browns work in the 60's.
Color: Alex Karras... short on analysis, but long on humor. His brief stint on MNF was memorable if for no other reason than his "Otis Sistrunk: University of Mars" comment.
As for today...
Lead: Mike Patrick - loved his early SNF work with ESPN. Really good at baiting Theismann...
Color-wise: I don't think anyone comes close to Herbie these days.
Best pair? Lundquist and Danielson...
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I really miss Bernie Kosar's preseason announcing. He still has the ability to read defenses and it would be great to get him involved with the Browns in some way. Other announcers I don't really pay too much attention to.
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You can't have a list of worst-ever without mentioning Myron Cope.
Dear bleeding Christ.
That screeching voice and the most non-objective commentary ever. Perhaps only equaled by the
Atlanta Braves broadcasters (Skip Carey, etc.) on the Superstation in the '90's. Incapable of acknowledging
a good play by the opposing team while waxing on and on and on over the must mundane and routine
plays by the home team.
^+1
Stuart said:
Oh you're just mad Cope made fun of the browns a lot lol.
Seriously though, when Cope was the lead play by play guy yes, agree, a bit hard to take...but when Hillgrove started doing the play by play, Copes function became to add his 2 cents, like Deacon. Except Deacon is boring, Cope was hilarious, a looney tune.
Nope, Cope was horrible- except to Steeler Homers. Grating voice, and was pointed out before- homer city. Only surpassed in recent times by Dave Lapham of Bungle radio.
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Nope, Cope was horrible- except to Steeler Homers. Grating voice, and was pointed out before- homer city. Only surpassed in recent times by Dave Lapham of Bungle radio.
In the 70's, the flip side of Cope was Jack Fleming, who was the voice of the Steelers and the Mountaineers at WVU.
One of the great all-time radio announcers. That's his voice on the Immaculate Reception "Franco Harris is running for
a touchdown!"
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In basketball, the best ever Joe Tate hands down.
I like Donovan a lot. Deacon blows. Michaels great. Nev Chandler, Summerall great names from the past.
The stark contrast between Bill Hillgrove and Myron Cope made the most entertaining pair ever...the cool, calm, professional play by play of Hillgrove, next to the wicky wacky Cope and his tirades...funny as fuck.
In baseball absolutely abhor Tom Hamilton, worst ever...the over the top exuberance, and his "oh the humanity" reactions...its eyeball rolling.
The best in baseball.. Vin Skully. Professional, cool, calm, and collected, Skully is the only announcer that can project the excitement of the game to the listener without having an orgasm like Hamilton.
That takes skill because its only baseball after all.
Stuart said:
In basketball, the best ever Joe Tate hands down.
I like Donovan a lot. Deacon blows. Michaels great. Nev Chandler, Summerall great names from the past.
The stark contrast between Bill Hillgrove and Myron Cope made the most entertaining pair ever...the cool, calm, professional play by play of Hillgrove, next to the wicky wacky Cope and his tirades...funny as fuck.
In baseball absolutely abhor Tom Hamilton, worst ever...the over the top exuberance, and his "oh the humanity" reactions...its eyeball rolling.
The best in baseball.. Vin Skully. Professional, cool, calm, and collected, Skully is the only announcer that can project the excitement of the game to the listener without having an orgasm like Hamilton.
That takes skill because its only baseball after all.
Hamilton is great, sorry.
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You can't have a list of worst-ever without mentioning Myron Cope.
Dear bleeding Christ.
That screeching voice and the most non-objective commentary ever. Perhaps only equaled by the
Atlanta Braves broadcasters (Skip Carey, etc.) on the Superstation in the '90's. Incapable of acknowledging
a good play by the opposing team while waxing on and on and on over the must mundane and routine
plays by the home team.
Oh you're just mad Cope made fun of the browns a lot lol.
Seriously though, when Cope was the lead play by play guy yes, agree, a bit hard to take...but when Hillgrove started doing the play by play, Copes function became to add his 2 cents, like Deacon. Except Deacon is boring, Cope was hilarious, a looney tune.
Stuart said:
Oh you're just mad Cope made fun of the browns a lot lol.
Seriously though, when Cope was the lead play by play guy yes, agree, a bit hard to take...but when Hillgrove started doing the play by play, Copes function became to add his 2 cents, like Deacon. Except Deacon is boring, Cope was hilarious, a looney tune.
He wasn't mad because Cope made fun of the Browns. You in fact stated it correctly. Cope was a caricature of an announcer. A cartoon. Not to be taken seriously, comic relief. But, yes, entertaining.
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I loved Curt Gowdy & Al deRogatis, Pat Summerall & Tom Brookshier for the throwback classic guys.
Somebody mentioned Enberg & Olsen- they never put their pom poms down for Elway & Fouts. I always thought they were biased for the western NFL cities.
Today's tv play-by-play guys are too much into the hype, but I do like Troy Aikman & Gary Danielson as analysts. Mike Patrick on ESPN might be the best play-by-play guy now.
Gib Shanley painted the best picture for me on the radio. Jim Donovan never tells us where the ball is half the time, other than that he's fine.
OMG- I was just going to put up a post voting Gowdy as the WORST of all time- and it's not even close. (Short of Myron Cope- who should have been doing Maypo commercials when Arnold Stang retired) 1\2 the time Curt didn't even know who in the hell was playing and his commentary sucked.
I'd vote for Enberg and Olsen as best. And I always enjoyed John Madden's commentary.
OMG- I was just going to put up a post voting Gowdy as the WORST of all time- and it's not even close. (Short of Myron Cope- who should have been doing Maypo commercials when Arnold Stang retired) 1\2 the time Curt didn't even know who in the hell was playing and his commentary sucked.
I'd vote for Enberg and Olsen as best. And I always enjoyed John Madden's commentary.
Hoorta, Gowdy at the end was bad I agree. But the playoff game he announced between Miami & Raiders in 1974 was a classic. I still remember him on the call when Stabler flipped the ball to Davis, ending the Dolphin dynasty.
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I really miss Bernie Kosar's preseason announcing. He still has the ability to read defenses and it would be great to get him involved with the Browns in some way. Other announcers I don't really pay too much attention to.
I really miss Bernie Kosar's preseason announcing. He still has the ability to read defenses and it would be great to get him involved with the Browns in some way. Other announcers I don't really pay too much attention to.
if somebody, ANYBODY, put him on the mike for regular season i'd tune in religiously and drop everyone else in a heartbeat.
so listen up all you tiny college stations, tech savvy high school kids w ability to stream online, even cb gd radio...if u build it, i would probably cum.
tbh it would actually be super simple to do online, and it would be a crystal clear broadcast that even kiwi's and siberians could tune in for (if they were so inclined) , and with even the most generic media player w a slider you could get rid of the delay and get it perfectly in sync w the video...but he'd have to be there. but between a dvr and a slider on ur audio player he wouldn't...and u could definitely get it exact. save it as a podcast and peeps could watch it later as well.
the pilot could be something like -->"SUNDAY SPECTACULAR: Get Drunk w Bernie and Throw Shit at Your TV"
or "Bernie, Uncensored..."
you get the idea.
someone call him. i'd bet he'd probably do it for free. his ego IS deserved though. we love the guy! and word would travel fast.
if web traffic were like 50k, people would notice. i don't think you would even need licensing just to call the game either.
just some silly food for thought. hey, a guy can dream, right?
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I really miss Bernie Kosar's preseason announcing. He still has the ability to read defenses and it would be great to get him involved with the Browns in some way. Other announcers I don't really pay too much attention to.
if somebody, ANYBODY, put him on the mike for regular season i'd tune in religiously and drop everyone else in a heartbeat.
so listen up all you tiny college stations, tech savvy high school kids w ability to stream online, even cb gd radio...if u build it, i would probably cum.
tbh it would actually be super simple to do online, and it would be a crystal clear broadcast that even kiwi's and siberians could tune in for (if they were so inclined) , and with even the most generic media player w a slider you could get rid of the delay and get it perfectly in sync w the video...but he'd have to be there. but between a dvr and a slider on ur audio player he wouldn't...and u could definitely get it exact. save it as a podcast and peeps could watch it later as well.
the pilot could be something like -->"SUNDAY SPECTACULAR: Get Drunk w Bernie and Throw Shit at Your TV"
or "Bernie, Uncensored..."
you get the idea.
someone call him. i'd bet he'd probably do it for free. his ego IS deserved though. we love the guy! and word would travel fast.
if web traffic were like 50k, people would notice. i don't think you would even need licensing just to call the game either.
just some silly food for thought. hey, a guy can dream, right?
if somebody, ANYBODY, put him on the mike for regular season i'd tune in religiously and drop everyone else in a heartbeat.
so listen up all you tiny college stations, tech savvy high school kids w ability to stream online, even cb gd radio...if u build it, i would probably cum.
tbh it would actually be super simple to do online, and it would be a crystal clear broadcast that even kiwi's and siberians could tune in for (if they were so inclined) , and with even the most generic media player w a slider you could get rid of the delay and get it perfectly in sync w the video...but he'd have to be there. but between a dvr and a slider on ur audio player he wouldn't...and u could definitely get it exact. save it as a podcast and peeps could watch it later as well.
the pilot could be something like -->"SUNDAY SPECTACULAR: Get Drunk w Bernie and Throw Shit at Your TV"
or "Bernie, Uncensored..."
you get the idea.
someone call him. i'd bet he'd probably do it for free. his ego IS deserved though. we love the guy! and word would travel fast.
if web traffic were like 50k, people would notice. i don't think you would even need licensing just to call the game either.
just some silly food for thought. hey, a guy can dream, right?
that would be a dream come true, as long as there is internet stream so I can listen to it outside of Ohio. I would do the same as you; drop everything and tune in to hear Bernie's insights every week. The icing on the cake would be if there were special guest appearances by Josh Cribbs, another guy who genuinely loves Cleveland.
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I loved Curt Gowdy & Al deRogatis, Pat Summerall & Tom Brookshier for the throwback classic guys.
Somebody mentioned Enberg & Olsen- they never put their pom poms down for Elway & Fouts. I always thought they were biased for the western NFL cities.
Today's tv play-by-play guys are too much into the hype, but I do like Troy Aikman & Gary Danielson as analysts. Mike Patrick on ESPN might be the best play-by-play guy now.
Gib Shanley painted the best picture for me on the radio. Jim Donovan never tells us where the ball is half the time, other than that he's fine.
Agreed. When Gib called a play on the radio, you could watch it unfold in your mind. There has never been anyone better. I wish there were radio clip archives for you guys to listen to. I've searched the internet and cannot find anything on Shanley. He was a play-by-play genius. Donovan is awful by comparison.Gib Shanley painted the best picture for me on the radio. Jim Donovan never tells us where the ball is half the time, other than that he's fine.
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Agreed. When Gib called a play on the radio, you could watch it unfold in your mind. There has never been anyone better. I wish there were radio clip archives for you guys to listen to. I've searched the internet and cannot find anything on Shanley. He was a play-by-play genius. Donovan is awful by comparison.Gib Shanley painted the best picture for me on the radio. Jim Donovan never tells us where the ball is half the time, other than that he's fine.
Agreed. When Gib called a play on the radio, you could watch it unfold in your mind. There has never been anyone better. I wish there were radio clip archives for you guys to listen to. I've searched the internet and cannot find anything on Shanley. He was a play-by-play genius. Donovan is awful by comparison.
Some of my favorite Shanley calls....Phipps to Pitts in San Diego, MNF 1972, 21-17 Browns
Sipe to Newsome in the corner, 1980 vs Pittsburgh 27-26 Browns
Cockroft last second FG to beat Steelers in 1972 26-24
Browns clinch AFC Central in Cincy last game of the season, 1980 ("Bum Philllips kicked down the wrong door," per Sam Rutigliano)
Greg Pruitt in the sloppy mud goes around left tackle on a 20 some yard TD run, 1976 to beat Pittsburgh 18-16.
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Agreed. When Gib called a play on the radio, you could watch it unfold in your mind. There has never been anyone better. I wish there were radio clip archives for you guys to listen to. I've searched the internet and cannot find anything on Shanley. He was a play-by-play genius. Donovan is awful by comparison.Gib Shanley painted the best picture for me on the radio. Jim Donovan never tells us where the ball is half the time, other than that he's fine.
Agreed. When Gib called a play on the radio, you could watch it unfold in your mind. There has never been anyone better. I wish there were radio clip archives for you guys to listen to. I've searched the internet and cannot find anything on Shanley. He was a play-by-play genius. Donovan is awful by comparison.
There are some of him but you have to find them within the highlight shows from the 1979 and 1980 seasons. I don't know how to post youtube videos on here but there are some of him calling the games
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nev_Chandler
Hard to imagine he's been gone for almost 20 years. He and a guy from channel 8 came out to a Westside bar I was playing early in my solo days. Stayed almost all night, drinking and laughing like hell at my stupid jokes, great guy and a great broadcaster. I have to admit Jimmy Donovan does a hell of a job too!
WSS
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nev_Chandler
Hard to imagine he's been gone for almost 20 years. He and a guy from channel 8 came out to a Westside bar I was playing early in my solo days. Stayed almost all night, drinking and laughing like hell at my stupid jokes, great guy and a great broadcaster. I have to admit Jimmy Donovan does a hell of a job too!
WSS
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nev_Chandler
Hard to imagine he's been gone for almost 20 years. He and a guy from channel 8 came out to a Westside bar I was playing early in my solo days. Stayed almost all night, drinking and laughing like hell at my stupid jokes, great guy and a great broadcaster. I have to admit Jimmy Donovan does a hell of a job too!
WSS
I laughed like hell at your stupid jokes and even stayed most of the drink and was drinking.
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