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  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
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    http://conservativepost.com/new-bible-translation-eliminates-father-son-holy-spirit-and-messiah-because-it-insults-muslims/

    Old Browns fan have you heard of this?

    (yes Woody, we know, 6000 years)

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      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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      Holy shit no! That has the be the first time the word of god has ever been modified!

      Isn't Allah just god in Arabic? Don't Christians that speak Arabic say Allah?

      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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        http://conservativepost.com/new-bible-translation-eliminates-father-son-holy-spirit-and-messiah-because-it-insults-muslims/

        Old Browns fan have you heard of this?

        (yes Woody, we know, 6000 years)

        WSS

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        S sadbrownsfan wrote on last edited by
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        @westside-steve said:

        http://conservativepost.com/new-bible-translation-eliminates-father-son-holy-spirit-and-messiah-because-it-insults-muslims/

        Old Browns fan have you heard of this?

        (yes Woody, we know, 6000 years)

        WSS

        This is not anything really "new" when religions are trying to spread to new regions they usually adjust the message so people change only a little bit of their practices.

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          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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          I believe we are living in the end times. All the signs are there. Jesus said there would be a falling away right before He returned. There are some churches today that ordain homosexual ministers, are pro abortion and are anti Israel so it does not surprise me about this new translation of the bible. On the gay issue you will soon see more churches going against clear teaching of the wrongness of homosexuality and accepting it as they try to stay relevant. Although churches have decreased in membership in recent years the evangelical Christian branch that believes in the authority of the scriptures continues to grow showing that you don't have to compromise. My guess is there will be even more new versions of the bible that will be changed to fit the version of events on the ground today such as making homosexuality out not to be a sinful lifestyle. Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

          As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

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            I believe we are living in the end times. All the signs are there. Jesus said there would be a falling away right before He returned. There are some churches today that ordain homosexual ministers, are pro abortion and are anti Israel so it does not surprise me about this new translation of the bible. On the gay issue you will soon see more churches going against clear teaching of the wrongness of homosexuality and accepting it as they try to stay relevant. Although churches have decreased in membership in recent years the evangelical Christian branch that believes in the authority of the scriptures continues to grow showing that you don't have to compromise. My guess is there will be even more new versions of the bible that will be changed to fit the version of events on the ground today such as making homosexuality out not to be a sinful lifestyle. Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

            As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

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            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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            @oldbrownsfan said:

            As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

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              As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

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              @gftchris said:

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                OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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                  LIberals desperately love their theories - makes them

                  feel happy...

                  for some screwed up, asswipe reason.

                  End Times? We are headed for big, very serious trouble.

                  Closer every year.

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                    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                    We go through this every month or two, the difference between 'theory' in common parlance, and 'theory' in the scientific world. Do I really need to explain it again?

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                      Actually I completely support linguists and theologians and historians doing what they can to get to the original meanings of any biblical translation. I don't know what the basis of this particular effort is though. Merely for clarification or to make a political statement?

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                      • W Westside Steve

                        Actually I completely support linguists and theologians and historians doing what they can to get to the original meanings of any biblical translation. I don't know what the basis of this particular effort is though. Merely for clarification or to make a political statement?

                        WSS

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                        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                        @westside-steve said:

                        Actually I completely support linguists and theologians and historians doing what they can to get to the original meanings of any biblical translation. I don't know what the basis of this particular effort is though. Merely for clarification or to make a political statement?

                        WSS

                        For sure, I'm always a proponent of reading things in the original language. Lots of things get lost in translation.

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                        • W Westside Steve

                          Actually I completely support linguists and theologians and historians doing what they can to get to the original meanings of any biblical translation. I don't know what the basis of this particular effort is though. Merely for clarification or to make a political statement?

                          WSS

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                          OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                          @westside-steve said:

                          Actually I completely support linguists and theologians and historians doing what they can to get to the original meanings of any biblical translation. I don't know what the basis of this particular effort is though. Merely for clarification or to make a political statement?

                          WSS

                          I have many translations of the bible as well as using Greek and Hebrew dictionaries for word studies. You have to stay faithful to the original meanings or you are inventing a new bible. It seems to me they are mis translating the original texts to try to appease and not offend Muslims.

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                            @westside-steve said:

                            Actually I completely support linguists and theologians and historians doing what they can to get to the original meanings of any biblical translation. I don't know what the basis of this particular effort is though. Merely for clarification or to make a political statement?

                            WSS

                            I have many translations of the bible as well as using Greek and Hebrew dictionaries for word studies. You have to stay faithful to the original meanings or you are inventing a new bible. It seems to me they are mis translating the original texts to try to appease and not offend Muslims.

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                            gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                            @oldbrownsfan said:

                            I have many translations of the bible as well as using Greek and Hebrew dictionaries for word studies. You have to stay faithful to the original meanings or you are inventing a new bible. It seems to me they are mis translating the original texts to try to appease and not offend Muslims.

                            I agree very much that you want to get the spirit of what is being said as much as, if not more than, the letter. But equally, it's important to consider the environment they were in, so while not eating 'unclean' animals may have been sound advice then, we have ways of making them disease free today, so there shouldn't be such a problem.

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                              I have often thought there would have been a good chance of shellfish being tainted by the time it got to its destination in the desert on the back of a mule.

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                                I have often thought there would have been a good chance of shellfish being tainted by the time it got to its destination in the desert on the back of a mule.

                                WSS

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                                gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                I have often thought there would have been a good chance of shellfish being tainted by the time it got to its destination in the desert on the back of a mule.

                                WSS

                                Yep. So it was sound advice, at the time, in that location. For us? Not so much of an issue.

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                                  I believe we are living in the end times. All the signs are there. Jesus said there would be a falling away right before He returned. There are some churches today that ordain homosexual ministers, are pro abortion and are anti Israel so it does not surprise me about this new translation of the bible. On the gay issue you will soon see more churches going against clear teaching of the wrongness of homosexuality and accepting it as they try to stay relevant. Although churches have decreased in membership in recent years the evangelical Christian branch that believes in the authority of the scriptures continues to grow showing that you don't have to compromise. My guess is there will be even more new versions of the bible that will be changed to fit the version of events on the ground today such as making homosexuality out not to be a sinful lifestyle. Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

                                  As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

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                                  @oldbrownsfan said:

                                  Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

                                  That's actually kind of an easy one. See adultery is fucking someone else over. It's kind of a douchey asshole move. Being gay is just a state of being. Of course gay people can commit adultery on their spouses now as well, but it's not gay adulterating pride week is it? That was a pretty easy distinction to parse, took my brain quite literally milliseconds to understand the difference.

                                  Are there any other cognitive dissonances you're keeping stored away you'd like my help with? I'm on my lunch right now so fire away

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                                    As for this bible business, what exactly are they rewriting? Is it just the allah thing? I don't really know why i'm slightly annoyed by that cause I find neither the quran nor the bible relevant to my life even "slightly". But I doubt we'll be seeing muslims altering the quran anytime soon to appease Christian so it's a little obnoxious.

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                                      I believe we are living in the end times. All the signs are there. Jesus said there would be a falling away right before He returned. There are some churches today that ordain homosexual ministers, are pro abortion and are anti Israel so it does not surprise me about this new translation of the bible. On the gay issue you will soon see more churches going against clear teaching of the wrongness of homosexuality and accepting it as they try to stay relevant. Although churches have decreased in membership in recent years the evangelical Christian branch that believes in the authority of the scriptures continues to grow showing that you don't have to compromise. My guess is there will be even more new versions of the bible that will be changed to fit the version of events on the ground today such as making homosexuality out not to be a sinful lifestyle. Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

                                      As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

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                                      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                      @oldbrownsfan said:

                                      I believe we are living in the end times. All the signs are there. Jesus said there would be a falling away right before He returned. There are some churches today that ordain homosexual ministers, are pro abortion and are anti Israel so it does not surprise me about this new translation of the bible. On the gay issue you will soon see more churches going against clear teaching of the wrongness of homosexuality and accepting it as they try to stay relevant. Although churches have decreased in membership in recent years the evangelical Christian branch that believes in the authority of the scriptures continues to grow showing that you don't have to compromise. My guess is there will be even more new versions of the bible that will be changed to fit the version of events on the ground today such as making homosexuality out not to be a sinful lifestyle. Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

                                      As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

                                      I think as information has become more readily available, people are less likely to rely on religion to try to explain things that they can just google now and get a logical explanation. So yes, religion is losing out to science and common sense.

                                      Load up the bunker and get the family prepared for the coming of the sky wizard.

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                                        @oldbrownsfan said:

                                        I believe we are living in the end times. All the signs are there. Jesus said there would be a falling away right before He returned. There are some churches today that ordain homosexual ministers, are pro abortion and are anti Israel so it does not surprise me about this new translation of the bible. On the gay issue you will soon see more churches going against clear teaching of the wrongness of homosexuality and accepting it as they try to stay relevant. Although churches have decreased in membership in recent years the evangelical Christian branch that believes in the authority of the scriptures continues to grow showing that you don't have to compromise. My guess is there will be even more new versions of the bible that will be changed to fit the version of events on the ground today such as making homosexuality out not to be a sinful lifestyle. Every-time I see something like Gay pride week I think why don't we have Adultery pride week as well?

                                        As the schools have taught the theory of evolution as a fact instead of a theory it has done nothing but destroy faith. It has helped nobody but destroyed the faith of millions. It is not surprising that many become atheists when they are taught by the government schools and media that they are nothing more than evolved pond scum.

                                        I think as information has become more readily available, people are less likely to rely on religion to try to explain things that they can just google now and get a logical explanation. So yes, religion is losing out to science and common sense.

                                        Load up the bunker and get the family prepared for the coming of the sky wizard.

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                                        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        I think as information has become more readily available, people are less likely to rely on religion to try to explain things that they can just google now and get a logical explanation. So yes, religion is losing out to science and common sense.

                                        Load up the bunker and get the family prepared for the coming of the sky wizard.

                                        Amen

                                        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                                          I love the difference between Sad's post and OBF's post.

                                          "This is nothing new because... [reasonable response]"

                                          Vs

                                          "We're in the end times! Gay people are bad! Evolution is a lie!"

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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