Trade Bait
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Who do you see as potentially surplus, why, and how much would you be looking for in exchange?
For example, if you think Glenn Winston is a secret weapon, you might look to get T-West out for a 2 or a 3. Maybe you think there's too many bodies on the DL, so Kitchen gets us a 5th.
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I'd wait to see how training camp goes to see what I had before making any decisions. But then again I'm not privy to everything staff has seen already. It's nice to be in position to make tough choices though.
For those close enough for a first hand viewing:
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Who do you see as potentially surplus, why, and how much would you be looking for in exchange?
For example, if you think Glenn Winston is a secret weapon, you might look to get T-West out for a 2 or a 3. Maybe you think there's too many bodies on the DL, so Kitchen gets us a 5th.
Who do you see as potentially surplus, why, and how much would you be looking for in exchange?
For example, if you think Glenn Winston is a secret weapon, you might look to get T-West out for a 2 or a 3. Maybe you think there's too many bodies on the DL, so Kitchen gets us a 5th.
Trades of the type you are suggesting are rare in the NFL. That is more of a MLB or NBA thing.
The exception is around draft time....and if a trade goes down it usually involves a draft pick.
Here is a link to the NFL trades made this year....again, almost all draft related.
Not saying it can't happen at this point....it just usually doesn't.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25165330/2015-nfl-trades
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Sure, most likely nothing's going to happen. Just passing the time...
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Sure, most likely nothing's going to happen. Just passing the time...
Do these kinds of trades happen often/occasionally in the EPL?
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Do these kinds of trades happen often/occasionally in the EPL?
Completely different system.
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Do these kinds of trades happen often/occasionally in the EPL?
Completely different system.
Completely different system.
So, you are saying that player trades between teams are never made?
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Who do you see as potentially surplus, why, and how much would you be looking for in exchange?
For example, if you think Glenn Winston is a secret weapon, you might look to get T-West out for a 2 or a 3. Maybe you think there's too many bodies on the DL, so Kitchen gets us a 5th.
Trades of the type you are suggesting are rare in the NFL. That is more of a MLB or NBA thing.
The exception is around draft time....and if a trade goes down it usually involves a draft pick.
Here is a link to the NFL trades made this year....again, almost all draft related.
Not saying it can't happen at this point....it just usually doesn't.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25165330/2015-nfl-trades
Trades of the type you are suggesting are rare in the NFL. That is more of a MLB or NBA thing.
The exception is around draft time....and if a trade goes down it usually involves a draft pick.
Here is a link to the NFL trades made this year....again, almost all draft related.
Not saying it can't happen at this point....it just usually doesn't.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25165330/2015-nfl-trades
Eh, they're not as rare for later round picks, to be honest.
There's not going to be many trades this year because the first NFL team just opened up training camp today. But if you look at last year (June-October) there's probably around 20 or so trades that went down from the beginning of training camp until about Week 5.
Here's a small sampling:
- Houston traded TJ Yates for Akeem Dent.
- Baltimore traded the rights to Rolando McClain to Dallas.
- NE traded Ryan Mallett to Houston.
- Tennessee traded Lavar Edwards to Dallas.
- Indianapolis traded Marcus Burley to Seattle.
- NE traded Logan Mankins to Tampa Bay.
- TB traded Mark Barron to St. Louis.
- Seattle traded Percy Harvin to New York.
I singled those trades out because they are similar to trades that we could make over the next few months.
- Marcus Burley was an undrafted CB who had a solid camp for the Colts and the Seahawks came knocking. This could be similar to any one of our DL or our CB's if they have a solid showing.
- Lavar Edwards was a depth DE for the Titans who played mediocre in his seven games in 2013. Dallas, however, was severely lacking depth and offered a late rounder for Edwards to help fill out their roster. This could happen with Winn or Meder or any one of our questionable-to-make-the-team DL if we hold on to a few of them or if they have a solid camp.
- Percy Harvin was a troubled, talented receiver who had limited playing time in his career and was shipped off because his upside just wasn't worth his downside. That could be a similar trade for Gordon (not in this offseason, mind you).
- Mark Barron was a hugely talented, young, first-round defensive back who stagnated in TB, then got a second chance in a new system in St. Louis. That could be a similar trade for Gilbert if he doesn't perform up to snuff or if Williams, Desir, et al prove to be solid CB's.
- Logan Mankins was a perennial Pro Bowl guard for the Patriots for his entire career, but the Patriots ended up cutting ties with him in order to move on with a younger player at the position. That could be similar to an Alex Mack trade (highly unlikely, though, due to his contract situation).
- TJ Yates was a decently successful college QB with some grit who was destined to be a perennial backup, yet got some playing time due to injury and performed admirably. This could be a similar situation to Shaw, if a team comes calling with the right offer.
- Ryan Mallet was a very talented player coming out of college who sat behind a future HOF QB. This is very similar to nobody in Cleveland because we've never had a situation like this before. I just threw it up here for shiggles.
Realistically, I could see us dumping a DL for a 5th-7th round pick and an RB for a 5th-7th round pick. If Winston shines, our depth CB's perform well and our stable of DL prove to be capable, we could find ourselves in the position of trading a few solid players and still being able to round out a talented 53.
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So, you are saying that player trades between teams are never made?
There's no draft, so there's not really anything to trade. Players are purchased for money. Occasionally you'll get player + cash deals, and extremely rarely you'll get player for player swaps, though I don't really remember any.
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So, you are saying that player trades between teams are never made?
There's no draft, so there's not really anything to trade. Players are purchased for money. Occasionally you'll get player + cash deals, and extremely rarely you'll get player for player swaps, though I don't really remember any.
There's no draft, so there's not really anything to trade. Players are purchased for money. Occasionally you'll get player + cash deals, and extremely rarely you'll get player for player swaps, though I don't really remember any.
In other words....it is no fun for fans to engage in the kind of speculation we do here about player trades.
It is all free agency: who are we going to buy?
While we have an interest in that.....speculating on trades in the big thing here.....expecially in baseball. Some in basketball.....and despite what TCPO related...it is still a very minor issue with the NFL.....except for the draft as noted.
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- Ryan Mallet was a very talented player coming out of college who sat behind a future HOF QB. This is very similar to nobody in Cleveland because we've never had a situation like this before. I just threw it up here for shiggles.
You never know....it could become similar to JFF....(without the HOFer in front of him)
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- Ryan Mallet was a very talented player coming out of college who sat behind a future HOF QB. This is very similar to nobody in Cleveland because we've never had a situation like this before. I just threw it up here for shiggles.
You never know....it could become similar to JFF....(without the HOFer in front of him)
- Ryan Mallet was a very talented player coming out of college who sat behind a future HOF QB. This is very similar to nobody in Cleveland because we've never had a situation like this before. I just threw it up here for shiggles.
You never know....it could become similar to JFF....(without the HOFer in front of him)
That's kind of what I was going for, although I thought it might get people in a riot over trading an "unknown commodity".
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Assuming you can manage all of the egos, why not just keep the depth at this point? Unless you see a major weakness at one position
Why not rotate through three HBs? We aren't going to be beating anyone through the air.
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There's no draft, so there's not really anything to trade. Players are purchased for money. Occasionally you'll get player + cash deals, and extremely rarely you'll get player for player swaps, though I don't really remember any.
In other words....it is no fun for fans to engage in the kind of speculation we do here about player trades.
It is all free agency: who are we going to buy?
While we have an interest in that.....speculating on trades in the big thing here.....expecially in baseball. Some in basketball.....and despite what TCPO related...it is still a very minor issue with the NFL.....except for the draft as noted.
In other words....it is no fun for fans to engage in the kind of speculation we do here about player trades.
It is all free agency: who are we going to buy?
While we have an interest in that.....speculating on trades in the big thing here.....expecially in baseball. Some in basketball.....and despite what TCPO related...it is still a very minor issue with the NFL.....except for the draft as noted.
You just seem to be reaching for ways to insult soccer now, haha
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Soccer deserves to be insulted - the name of it is offensive.
Implies domestic violence. Bad, bad, bad.
And it's a silly game - a cross between rugby, field hockey, ping pong and tennis.
Nah.
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Who do you see as potentially surplus, why, and how much would you be looking for in exchange?
For example, if you think Glenn Winston is a secret weapon, you might look to get T-West out for a 2 or a 3. Maybe you think there's too many bodies on the DL, so Kitchen gets us a 5th.
Who do you see as potentially surplus, why, and how much would you be looking for in exchange?
For example, if you think Glenn Winston is a secret weapon, you might look to get T-West out for a 2 or a 3. Maybe you think there's too many bodies on the DL, so Kitchen gets us a 5th.
To be honest, teams that have as many empty cupboards as full cupboards are more in need of trade bait than we are today.
There isn't anything anyone can give up that upgrades what we have unless somebody inexplicably has 2 accurate starting caliber kickers that we can exploit. Kicker is my biggest worry today. While Tom Brady was once very willing to fumble a playoff game away to the Raiders in the snow before somebody pulled a tuck rule outta their ass to save his hyde - that game isn't won without Adam Vinatieri's accurate foot. When NE had to replace him, they prioritized drafting a kicker. On the other hand, Indy could have beaten Pittsburgh in the playoffs if they didn't have what Peyton termed "An Idiot Kicker!"
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Get something for one of the corners for sure.
That's risky IMO. Here's why. What happens if Joe Haden twists an ankle right after we trade somebody capable of filling in? The prequisite to that question includes the understanding we lost a 2014 starter at corner to FA while our 1st round corner has been much maligned until his play says otherwise.
As much as Tramon Williams can be an upgrade to Skrine - he also has the wear and tear of a 9 year vet at an age guys are prone to losing a step or 2. He's a great stop gap idea; but our problem solve if Gilbert doesn't pan out seems to be Ekpre-Olomu (who will prolly get an injury red-shirted as a rookie in 2015).
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Well isn't that a risk with any trade? Of course guys could get hurt. That's what the depth is for. Gilbert was better than people think last season. We have Gaines, Ifo, and yes the two Williams AND Haden. We can absolutely afford to unload one.
Also, as to your second to last post: Deandre Hopkins for Justin Gilbert? That upgrades what we have.
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