Football Gameplan's 2015 NFL Team Preview: Browns
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http://footballgameplan.com/fbgps-2015-nfl-season-preview-cleveland-browns/
Good evening Browns fans! Here's my season preview for you guys. Good luck this year!
Em
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The Browns are going to finish at the top of the division this year... that's my only critique.
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Great job, Emdig, as always !
Two mistakes:
One: ...the best qb on the roster is..... LOL. Nah.
Two: I know you can't afford to be a homer for the Browns, but 4th in their division? Not happenin.
You do a great job.
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Can't just toss in Manziel to 'find out what you have'. If he can't earn the reps in practice, fat chance he earns them and performs in game.
Heard the same thing last year when the wolves went after Hoyer. Johnny boy came in and played quite possibly the worst football from the QB position I've ever seen.
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Thanks Gang! What's your take on the Receiving Corps this season? Outside of QB, that's where you hope there's growth. I mean, they kind of go hand-in-hand right?
Thanks Gang! What's your take on the Receiving Corps this season? Outside of QB, that's where you hope there's growth. I mean, they kind of go hand-in-hand right?
Upgraded on last year. It's been mentioned elsewhere here, but when you compare Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins & Gabriel to (2012/13?) Little, Bess, Massequoi and Josh Cooper, the difference is night and day. In all honesty, just missing a Josh Gordon to make it a highly competitive unit.
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Thanks, Em
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Thanks Gang! What's your take on the Receiving Corps this season? Outside of QB, that's where you hope there's growth. I mean, they kind of go hand-in-hand right?
Upgraded on last year. It's been mentioned elsewhere here, but when you compare Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins & Gabriel to (2012/13?) Little, Bess, Massequoi and Josh Cooper, the difference is night and day. In all honesty, just missing a Josh Gordon to make it a highly competitive unit.
Upgraded on last year. It's been mentioned elsewhere here, but when you compare Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins & Gabriel to (2012/13?) Little, Bess, Massequoi and Josh Cooper, the difference is night and day. In all honesty, just missing a Josh Gordon to make it a highly competitive unit.
You know its funny how everyone keeps talking about Josh Gordon. But think about it. We played very good football until he came back and it was pretty clear he wasnt interested in "truly" playing. We should be much better without him. We dont have to have the best receivers in football to be a good team. Like i have stated several times, a very good Oline, a running game, and time to throw should provide leaps and bounds over previous years. I truly think this division will be up for grabs. Any team can win.
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http://footballgameplan.com/fbgps-2015-nfl-season-preview-cleveland-browns/
Good evening Browns fans! Here's my season preview for you guys. Good luck this year!
Em
http://footballgameplan.com/fbgps-2015-nfl-season-preview-cleveland-browns/
Good evening Browns fans! Here's my season preview for you guys. Good luck this year!
Em
Id say a very solid and fair analysis....good job on doing your homework....
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The Browns were lacking in very good possession receivers - guys
who know how to get open and catch the ball every time.
Those quick throws for completions will get the defenses off-kilter
when they run the ball, or be like Kosar, and throw a long bomb to
get in their minds.
The Browns just haven't had the players with the skills to
be versatile in their playcalling.
They do now. It will be great to watch.
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Great job, Emdig, as always !
Two mistakes:
One: ...the best qb on the roster is..... LOL. Nah.
Two: I know you can't afford to be a homer for the Browns, but 4th in their division? Not happenin.
You do a great job.
(Mistake) One: ...the best qb on the roster is..... LOL. Nah.
Can't just toss in Manziel to 'find out what you have'. If he can't earn the reps in practice, fat chance he earns them and performs in game.
The above two replies combine to capture the major takeaways I had.
- To champion JM simply dismisses our coaching staff's ability to identify the QB best prepared to lead the Offense. The 2014 season, and its aftermath, should have sold you on their ability to do so.
- To champion Pryor as "the best QB on the team" brings the reviewer's judgment into question. Best athlete at QB? Sure... but best QB? No...
It would have helped me had all the QB discussion come at the end. Maybe that's tantamount to "burying the lead", but it would have flowed right into the conclusion about the season hinging on that position's performance, which while a bit boiler-plate-ish is nonetheless true.
The last comment I'll make is on the level of QB play needed for success, i.e., making the playoffs in 2015. Where the video seems to intimate that the QB will have to win games, the text below the vid seems to set the bar more at a "not lose games" level. Put another way, it needs to "manage games". The position needs '00 Dilferesque... 1st-half '14 Hoyeresque... or '13 McCownesque play. With, as I think we agree, improvement everywhere else on the roster as compared to 2014, I think it's hard to argue otherwise.
If you agree with the above, then it becomes a simple manner of identifying the QB on our roster that best fits that mold. I think that answer is clear today.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Pryor's passing is complimented when it's referred to an "arm punt" - he's in no way the best QB on the roster. Even at Ohio State, Pryor was just an athlete playing QB. At WR, he'll finally be where he should have been all along -- and I think he'll do good work as a WR in 2 seasons, not this year.
You mentioned a UDFA DL who might not make the roster.. but left out Billy Winn, the best DL on the Browns roster last year?
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(Mistake) One: ...the best qb on the roster is..... LOL. Nah.
Can't just toss in Manziel to 'find out what you have'. If he can't earn the reps in practice, fat chance he earns them and performs in game.
The above two replies combine to capture the major takeaways I had.
- To champion JM simply dismisses our coaching staff's ability to identify the QB best prepared to lead the Offense. The 2014 season, and its aftermath, should have sold you on their ability to do so.
- To champion Pryor as "the best QB on the team" brings the reviewer's judgment into question. Best athlete at QB? Sure... but best QB? No...
It would have helped me had all the QB discussion come at the end. Maybe that's tantamount to "burying the lead", but it would have flowed right into the conclusion about the season hinging on that position's performance, which while a bit boiler-plate-ish is nonetheless true.
The last comment I'll make is on the level of QB play needed for success, i.e., making the playoffs in 2015. Where the video seems to intimate that the QB will have to win games, the text below the vid seems to set the bar more at a "not lose games" level. Put another way, it needs to "manage games". The position needs '00 Dilferesque... 1st-half '14 Hoyeresque... or '13 McCownesque play. With, as I think we agree, improvement everywhere else on the roster as compared to 2014, I think it's hard to argue otherwise.
If you agree with the above, then it becomes a simple manner of identifying the QB on our roster that best fits that mold. I think that answer is clear today.
The above two replies combine to capture the major takeaways I had.
- To champion JM simply dismisses our coaching staff's ability to identify the QB best prepared to lead the Offense. The 2014 season, and its aftermath, should have sold you on their ability to do so.
- To champion Pryor as "the best QB on the team" brings the reviewer's judgment into question. Best athlete at QB? Sure... but best QB? No...
Second best career rating, so it's not that far off.
It's on me, but I found myself hung up on the above enough that it distracted me from potentially meaningful nuggets of insight later on... especially around some of the more obscure UDFA signings.It would have helped me had all the QB discussion come at the end. Maybe that's tantamount to "burying the lead", but it would have flowed right into the conclusion about the season hinging on that position's performance, which while a bit boiler-plate-ish is nonetheless true.
The last comment I'll make is on the level of QB play needed for success, i.e., making the playoffs in 2015. Where the video seems to intimate that the QB will have to win games, the text below the vid seems to set the bar more at a "not lose games" level. Put another way, it needs to "manage games". The position needs '00 Dilferesque... 1st-half '14 Hoyeresque... or '13 McCownesque play. With, as I think we agree, improvement everywhere else on the roster as compared to 2014, I think it's hard to argue otherwise.
If you agree with the above, then it becomes a simple manner of identifying the QB on our roster that best fits that mold. I think that answer is clear today.
That QB is named Connor Shaw.
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The above two replies combine to capture the major takeaways I had.
- To champion JM simply dismisses our coaching staff's ability to identify the QB best prepared to lead the Offense. The 2014 season, and its aftermath, should have sold you on their ability to do so.
- To champion Pryor as "the best QB on the team" brings the reviewer's judgment into question. Best athlete at QB? Sure... but best QB? No...
Second best career rating, so it's not that far off.
It's on me, but I found myself hung up on the above enough that it distracted me from potentially meaningful nuggets of insight later on... especially around some of the more obscure UDFA signings.It would have helped me had all the QB discussion come at the end. Maybe that's tantamount to "burying the lead", but it would have flowed right into the conclusion about the season hinging on that position's performance, which while a bit boiler-plate-ish is nonetheless true.
The last comment I'll make is on the level of QB play needed for success, i.e., making the playoffs in 2015. Where the video seems to intimate that the QB will have to win games, the text below the vid seems to set the bar more at a "not lose games" level. Put another way, it needs to "manage games". The position needs '00 Dilferesque... 1st-half '14 Hoyeresque... or '13 McCownesque play. With, as I think we agree, improvement everywhere else on the roster as compared to 2014, I think it's hard to argue otherwise.
If you agree with the above, then it becomes a simple manner of identifying the QB on our roster that best fits that mold. I think that answer is clear today.
That QB is named Connor Shaw.
That QB is named Connor Shaw.
Ha!...love the kid...and think he has an honest shot at being #2
3 weeks till preseason game 1.....last year he was the best preseason qb we had.....can he do it again?.....
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That QB is named Connor Shaw.
Ha!...love the kid...and think he has an honest shot at being #2
3 weeks till preseason game 1.....last year he was the best preseason qb we had.....can he do it again?.....
Ha!...love the kid...and think he has an honest shot at being #2
3 weeks till preseason game 1.....last year he was the best preseason qb we had.....can he do it again?.....
Me too! Steve Spurrier has been known to hang his QBs out to dry with some unsound pass protections up front while challenging them to get rid of the ball quickly. When he hasn't had the right QB or the right surrounding cast - this hasn't always gone well. Shaw's numbers in his final year in Spurrier's offense are exactly what you want going with good defense and a nice running game. He had a TD to INT ratio of 24:1. SoCar went 10-2 in the SEC. Then we add what he accomplished at Indy/pre-draft workouts. Then we factor in he's a film rat. I can't help but flash back to the Brian Sipe nobody saw coming when our former 3rd overall pick Mike Phipps wasn't the answer.
Here's CONNOR SHAW'S STATS
Passing Statistics & Rushing statistics
Year Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
2013 284 180 63.4 2,447 24 1 162.9 154 558 3.6 6
2012 228 154 67.5 1,956 17 7 158.1 131 435 3.3 3
2011 188 123 65.4 1,448 14 6 148.3 135 525 3.9 8
2010 33 23 69.7 223 1 2 124.3 32 165 5.2 0
Career 733 480 65.5 6,074 56 16 155.9 452 1,683 3.7 17
I don't agree with the national media or those saying we have the worst QB situation. A lot of the same people had Russell Wilson on "don't even think about it before round 3 or 4" status while RG3 was all kinds of "gotta-have." Before that, they didn't have the first clue about Tom Brady. Before that, Sipe's arm wasn't as strong as Bea Arthur's; but he's inexplicably the only MVP passer in Cleveland I've had the pleasure of witnessing.
Right now, we have 3 different QBs I feel can succeed if used correctly in cohesion with a good running game. I'm looking forward to watching fate do its thing. What national media squids predicted we'd get off to a 6-3 and 7-4 start in 2014? What makes the same goofballs trustworthy this time around? Nothing. Stay tuned...
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Upgraded on last year. It's been mentioned elsewhere here, but when you compare Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins & Gabriel to (2012/13?) Little, Bess, Massequoi and Josh Cooper, the difference is night and day. In all honesty, just missing a Josh Gordon to make it a highly competitive unit.
You know its funny how everyone keeps talking about Josh Gordon. But think about it. We played very good football until he came back and it was pretty clear he wasnt interested in "truly" playing. We should be much better without him. We dont have to have the best receivers in football to be a good team. Like i have stated several times, a very good Oline, a running game, and time to throw should provide leaps and bounds over previous years. I truly think this division will be up for grabs. Any team can win.
You know its funny how everyone keeps talking about Josh Gordon. But think about it. We played very good football until he came back and it was pretty clear he wasnt interested in "truly" playing. We should be much better without him. We dont have to have the best receivers in football to be a good team. Like i have stated several times, a very good Oline, a running game, and time to throw should provide leaps and bounds over previous years. I truly think this division will be up for grabs. Any team can win.
Let's be SERIOUS, Josh Gordon is BY FAR the Browns BEST offensive player and weapon. He's the ONE guy that puts FEAR in opposing defenses, commands, and BEATS double teams. It.s not explained any better than looking at Cameron WITH Gordon, and WITHOUT. Gordon is the ONE guy, who opens things up for EVERYONE else. The BIGGEST problem was POOR QB PLAY. Hoyer was awful. struggled every game, the Browns struggled to win 7 games vs a weak schedule, when they SHOULD HAVE won no less than 10 games. The Browns have a roster full of slot WR's, all duplicate parts. They FAILED to take advantage of that last 2 Drafts, that were DEEP at WR, passing (no pun intended) on selecting a WR last year, and then taking Mayle (4/123) a guy who's NOT fast, with QUESTIONABLE hands (didn't he lead nation in drops) BEST case, a back end of the roster WR, IF HE MAKES the team.
Bowe 0 TDS in 2014, 60 REC or LESS the LAST 3 YRS with 8 TDS, and Hartline, 12 TDS in 7 YRS, is FAR FROM AN UPGRADE. Then add McCown to that mix at QB, have no idea why they just don't hand the ball to Manziel, and see what they TRULY have. They gain as much playing McCown, as they did playing Hoyer last year, NOTHING... a WASTED season. I would not be surprised by season's end, if Hawkins and Gabriel are not the teams most productive WR's. I agree with you, you DON'T have to have great WR's to win, SEA doesn't have great WR's but THEY have a QB that ELEVATES those around him, the Browns DON'T have that in McCown. What exactly has he done or accomplished again? He's NEVER led a TEAM anywhere, now he's going to FINALLY do that here? Explain...
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Ha!...love the kid...and think he has an honest shot at being #2
3 weeks till preseason game 1.....last year he was the best preseason qb we had.....can he do it again?.....
Me too! Steve Spurrier has been known to hang his QBs out to dry with some unsound pass protections up front while challenging them to get rid of the ball quickly. When he hasn't had the right QB or the right surrounding cast - this hasn't always gone well. Shaw's numbers in his final year in Spurrier's offense are exactly what you want going with good defense and a nice running game. He had a TD to INT ratio of 24:1. SoCar went 10-2 in the SEC. Then we add what he accomplished at Indy/pre-draft workouts. Then we factor in he's a film rat. I can't help but flash back to the Brian Sipe nobody saw coming when our former 3rd overall pick Mike Phipps wasn't the answer.
Here's CONNOR SHAW'S STATS
Passing Statistics & Rushing statistics
Year Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
2013 284 180 63.4 2,447 24 1 162.9 154 558 3.6 6
2012 228 154 67.5 1,956 17 7 158.1 131 435 3.3 3
2011 188 123 65.4 1,448 14 6 148.3 135 525 3.9 8
2010 33 23 69.7 223 1 2 124.3 32 165 5.2 0
Career 733 480 65.5 6,074 56 16 155.9 452 1,683 3.7 17
I don't agree with the national media or those saying we have the worst QB situation. A lot of the same people had Russell Wilson on "don't even think about it before round 3 or 4" status while RG3 was all kinds of "gotta-have." Before that, they didn't have the first clue about Tom Brady. Before that, Sipe's arm wasn't as strong as Bea Arthur's; but he's inexplicably the only MVP passer in Cleveland I've had the pleasure of witnessing.
Right now, we have 3 different QBs I feel can succeed if used correctly in cohesion with a good running game. I'm looking forward to watching fate do its thing. What national media squids predicted we'd get off to a 6-3 and 7-4 start in 2014? What makes the same goofballs trustworthy this time around? Nothing. Stay tuned...
Me too! Steve Spurrier has been known to hang his QBs out to dry with some unsound pass protections up front while challenging them to get rid of the ball quickly. When he hasn't had the right QB or the right surrounding cast - this hasn't always gone well. Shaw's numbers in his final year in Spurrier's offense are exactly what you want going with good defense and a nice running game. He had a TD to INT ratio of 24:1. SoCar went 10-2 in the SEC. Then we add what he accomplished at Indy/pre-draft workouts. Then we factor in he's a film rat. I can't help but flash back to the Brian Sipe nobody saw coming when our former 3rd overall pick Mike Phipps wasn't the answer.
Here's CONNOR SHAW'S STATS
Passing Statistics & Rushing statistics
Year Att Comp Pct Yds TD Int Rating Att Yds Avg TD
2013 284 180 63.4 2,447 24 1 162.9 154 558 3.6 6
2012 228 154 67.5 1,956 17 7 158.1 131 435 3.3 3
2011 188 123 65.4 1,448 14 6 148.3 135 525 3.9 8
2010 33 23 69.7 223 1 2 124.3 32 165 5.2 0
Career 733 480 65.5 6,074 56 16 155.9 452 1,683 3.7 17
I don't agree with the national media or those saying we have the worst QB situation. A lot of the same people had Russell Wilson on "don't even think about it before round 3 or 4" status while RG3 was all kinds of "gotta-have." Before that, they didn't have the first clue about Tom Brady. Before that, Sipe's arm wasn't as strong as Bea Arthur's; but he's inexplicably the only MVP passer in Cleveland I've had the pleasure of witnessing.
Right now, we have 3 different QBs I feel can succeed if used correctly in cohesion with a good running game. I'm looking forward to watching fate do its thing. What national media squids predicted we'd get off to a 6-3 and 7-4 start in 2014? What makes the same goofballs trustworthy this time around? Nothing. Stay tuned...
Conner Shaw is NOT an NFL QB... He won at So Carolina, but Spurrier's teams were built to run the ball and an attacking defense. Nobody cares what he did in the 2nd pre-season game?The Browns had no clue how to handle their QB's or QB situation. Hoyer had been SO BAD, he STARTED the 4th pre-season game. He was so bad they brought in Grossman (who had the MOST experience in Shanasham's offense, looked most comfortable in it, and best suited to tutor Hoyer and Manziel, BOTH were LEARNING it for the first time. Shaw should not have even made the roster, should have been on the practice squad at best. In the Browns situation, a QB with EXPERIENCE made the most sense as the 3rd QB, not 2 guys all trying to learn, and compete at the same time. I think Lewis is a better QB than McCown, and I don't see how Shaw even makes the final 53. He was rewarded with a start in the last game (Hoyer tapped out, didn't want t face BAL) Shaw struggled, and survived. He completed 50% of his passes (14-28) had poor pocket awareness, was slow through his reads and progressions, just lacked the arm strength to get the ball where it needed to be. He FUMBLED, tossed in INTERCEPTION, and was SACKED 4 times, with a QBR of 15.1
The Browns had no interest in Wilson, I was a guy very high on Wilson, I think the Browns will regret passing on Hundley (UCLA) traded their pick to Green Bay, and they selected him. I'm anxious to see just how they handle this so called competition, or should I just say QB position.
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That QB is named Connor Shaw.
Ha!...love the kid...and think he has an honest shot at being #2
3 weeks till preseason game 1.....last year he was the best preseason qb we had.....can he do it again?.....
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A. Your shift key. Fix it.
B. The Browns will regret...passing on HUNDLEY????
ROF,L.... I mean....
I don't think so. I like Next year's qb draft class. We'll see.
It wastes time to have a premier qb without the talent around him.
The ratbirds had their team intact, great defense, and got their qb.
The squealers got their team intact, great defense, and got their qb.
etc etc. The Browns will now have a GREAT defense, and next draft they
can get their qb, assuming the guy they want is in the draft.
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