Brady suspension UPHELD

The Gipper

Zombo said:

I just want him on the field week one when they play the Steelers, maybe if a court will suspend the suspension long enough for that to happen.

Zombo

Well, Belichick can alway call on Todd Philcox to win him some games in the interim, no? (or the equivalent of Todd Philcox)

miktoxic

the whole thing is friggin ridiculous. i'm no scientist but can't air pressure be affected by many different elements? and now what, do we have someone sticking a rectal thermometer up a ball's ass after every play? just more bullshit to add to what will soon become another thing to take away from the game.

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:
the whole thing is friggin ridiculous. i'm no scientist but can't air pressure be affected by many different elements? and now what, do we have someone sticking a rectal thermometer up a ball's ass after every play? just more bullshit to add to what will soon become another thing to take away from the game.

You can always stop watching if you want. No?

MLD Woody

@miktoxic said:
the whole thing is friggin ridiculous. i'm no scientist but can't air pressure be affected by many different elements? and now what, do we have someone sticking a rectal thermometer up a ball's ass after every play? just more bullshit to add to what will soon become another thing to take away from the game.

Correct. It is the Ideal Gas Law. It can account for the fluctuation in psi. Pretty easily actually.

DieHardBrownsFan

FUCK BRADY.

PoeticG

There are too many balls.

Mudfly

@poeticg said:
There are too many balls.

...and not enough air.....

@diehardbrownsfan said:
FUCK BRADY.

...exactly....

Canton Mike

My thoughts:

1) Wilson makes all balls to the same specs. Why so strict on the amount of air in 'em?

BUT...

2) If Brady broke rules, he deserves to be punished. What concerns me is that, if he destroyed his phone, it makes me think that some texts may have been yet ANOTHER violation of another rule (ala Farmer?) & calling for additional penalties?

Mike

Bob806

@the-gipper said:
It hurts his case badly that he destroyed his cell phone....apparently on purpose. Lets just say that in criminal defense terms, that is a major indicator of guilt. In fact, it would be an entire separate criminal offense in and of itself. Good thing this is not a criminal prosecution. Nevertheless....a judge hearing a civil case can apply the same principals.

I hate the Patriots, but Brady's being smart. I'm not giving my cell phone to Goodell either, he's got no right to see it.

Brady probably sought advice from a bunch of folks, including the NFLPA. Goodell's got no right to see those messages.

miktoxic

@diehardbrownsfan said:
FUCK BRADY.

until he plays for the browns.

miktoxic

@the-gipper said:
You can always stop watching if you want. No?

just saying it'd be an annoyance. sorta like your trivia posts.

The Gipper

@bob806 said:

I hate the Patriots, but Brady's being smart. I'm not giving my cell phone to Goodell either, he's got no right to see it.

Brady probably sought advice from a bunch of folks, including the NFLPA. Goodell's got no right to see those messages.

The NFL would have that right if Brady sued to be reinstated. Again, destruction of critical evidence is an indices of guilt.

I think Brady had the right to destroy the phone....and the arbitrator has the right to assume he did so in order to destroy evidence of his "guilt".

So, from my point of view, having destroyed the evidence....Brady should accept the punishment.

The Gipper

@miktoxic said:

just saying it'd be an annoyance. sorta like your trivia posts.

Have you tried this week's? Or does trying them deflate something?

miktoxic

@the-gipper said:
Have you tried this week's? Or does trying them deflate something?

yep. my ego. lol!

bringbackbrownie2

@mld-woody said:

Brady should sue the NFL.

I'm not sure how Goodell can use a report that isn't definitive, and ignores basic science, as reason to suspend Brady.

Your Michigan is showing..

MLD Woody

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
Your Michigan is showing..

Oh, I can't have an opinion because I'm a Michigan fan?

I assume that means no OSU fan can have an opinion either...

1) Innocent until proven guilty. Brady has yet to be proven guilty

2) Any incriminating texts would be on the recipients phone. Plus texts just don't disappear into thin air when the phone breaks.

3) The Wells report is incredibly flawed and isn't even sure of its own conclusion

4) The Ideal Gas Law accounts for all of the fluctuations in psi. It isn't complicated.

Goodell decided the punishment. He wasn't going to ok an appeal ignoring his own punishment. He was in a lose lose situation. Now Brady and the NFLPA will sue his ass.

calfoxwc

He destroyed his cellphone.

when you refuse to take a breath analyzer test....

you get cited.

Brady refused to take a "check my cell phone" test.

He got cited.

The NFL doesn't go my mishitgan rules.

jrb12711

@mld-woody said:

Oh, I can't have an opinion because I'm a Michigan fan?

I assume that means no OSU fan can have an opinion either...

1) Innocent until proven guilty. Brady has yet to be proven guilty

2) Any incriminating texts would be on the recipients phone. Plus texts just don't disappear into thin air when the phone breaks.

3) The Wells report is incredibly flawed and isn't even sure of its own conclusion

4) The Ideal Gas Law accounts for all of the fluctuations in psi. It isn't complicated.

Goodell decided the punishment. He wasn't going to ok an appeal ignoring his own punishment. He was in a lose lose situation. Now Brady and the NFLPA will sue his ass.

The biggest thing that frustrates me with this logic is simple. the NFL isn't a court of law and it never will be. the NFL has the right to suspend its players for conduct just like any other employer does for its employees. I get there's a union but this is the truth all the same. Tom Brady has the right to sue the NFL just like I have the right to sue for wrongful employment. If he does go to court and this phone destruction is indeed true, that puts a TON of doubt in his argument he did not have any guilt.

Tom Brady made the NFL look bad and tried to pretty boy and be arrogant to get out of it. It didn't work, plain and simple.

MLD Woody

Tom Brady doesn't need to try to make the NFL look bad. It makes itself looks bad easily enough.

I'm not sure how it is "arrogant" to say you shouldn't be suspended for something when the main incriminating report isn't even sure if you're guilty. He fought a wrongful suspension, no arrogance involved. Again, I'll keep going back to the scientific evidence brought up in the response to the Wells report.

This will go to court and it will make the NFL look evn worse.

miktoxic

problem is the player's union signed off on goodell having ultimate power, so he, when it comes to the players is judge, jury and executioner.

now if it was one of the owners under scrutiny and getting squeezed for some reason that would be swept under the rug in record time and long forgotten by now.

i don't understand the hate some people throw at an accomplished player, team or coach etc. if it was bernie kosar or sam rutigliano or brian sipe we'd be defending them until our undying breath.

BUT NO, brady is a cheater because the football he threw that ONE game against the colts was one scintilla of a scintilla off making him a cheater and scumbag. if that's what you people call a cheater and scumbag then ihop you have clean closets cuz most of you/us wouldn't pass muster when it comes to the squeeky clean that is tom brady.

i don't love roethlisberger because he plays for the stoolers. but if he were a brown, we'd all be standing in line to catch a fart in the face from him.

get over yourselves. geez, it's a fucking game.