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Is there someone to blame for the injuries?

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  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @baconhound said:

    I've been thinking this for years. I'm not sure the human body is designed to take all this weight training and repetitive motion.

    I have as well. Been harping the message a long time.

    There comes a point where you are as big as you are going to get without causing harm. Somewhere in the mix, you have to consider flexibility. Some years back we had guys ripping up chest muscles and biceps. A clear indication you have people too jacked up if you also require them to move with any range of motion.

    To decrease muscle injury, you need to increase range of motion.

    @ballpeen said:

    I have as well. Been harping the message a long time.

    There comes a point where you are as big as you are going to get without causing harm. Somewhere in the mix, you have to consider flexibility. Some years back we had guys ripping up chest muscles and biceps. A clear indication you have people too jacked up if you also require them to move with any range of motion.

    To decrease muscle injury, you need to increase range of motion.

    I think you guys are on to something. Stands to reason in the offseason these guys are lifting and running, so getting strength and conditioning, but during the season there are multiple occasions where they have to apply that strength and conditioning towards feats of contortionism.

    Applying force while bending your body in all kindsa fucked up ways because other guys are doing the same thing to get around you. What substitute is there for that in a weight room?

    I think these guys should fight ninjas in the offseason. Yeah. Ninjas.

  • You guys have missed the obvious choice to lead proper warmups before practice daily. 😛 😛

  • ballpeenB ballpeen

    @baconhound said:

    I've been thinking this for years. I'm not sure the human body is designed to take all this weight training and repetitive motion.

    I have as well. Been harping the message a long time.

    There comes a point where you are as big as you are going to get without causing harm. Somewhere in the mix, you have to consider flexibility. Some years back we had guys ripping up chest muscles and biceps. A clear indication you have people too jacked up if you also require them to move with any range of motion.

    To decrease muscle injury, you need to increase range of motion.

    @ballpeen said:

    I have as well. Been harping the message a long time.

    There comes a point where you are as big as you are going to get without causing harm. Somewhere in the mix, you have to consider flexibility. Some years back we had guys ripping up chest muscles and biceps. A clear indication you have people too jacked up if you also require them to move with any range of motion.

    To decrease muscle injury, you need to increase range of motion.

    Now that I'm not at work, I'd like to highlight this part.

    There is no such thing as 'muscle confusion' - don't buy into that bullshit. However having varying exercises in dynamic movement and weight can really help keep you healthy when strength training.

    example: I can't tell you how many people I see that don't know what a simple side squat is.

  • Weight training and conditioning increases flexibility if you put even one modicum of effort into stretching. Don't buy into what you read. Weights don't make you tight.

    I will say this. I had a buddy play for Pitt. They share a building with the Steelers. The building is split down the middle. Pitt on one side. Steelers on the other. the structure is the same on either side. But the Pitt weight room is really nice and the Steelers one is a complete dump. College programs are investing a lot more into this stuff than pro teams are.

  • Anyone who thinks lifting doesn't increase flexibility simply doesn't understand proper Olympic lifting. Keep doing whatever you want, sure, but.. that assertion is simply objectively incorrect.

    Bent-leg deadlift, clean+press, squat etc. when combined correctly will change your body - positively.

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown

  • I think the injuries are simply due to physical stress of contact and dynamic movement.

    the human body is just subject to these strains, sprains, tweaks, and far worse, tears and breaks.

    As for some players getting them, and all sorts of players don't get them... I wonder if it's a

    subconcious protection thing. That, and not all knees, for example, are as stable as other's knees.

    and ankles.

    Say, somebody should write to a well-respected strength and conditioning coach in the pros and ask them that question.

  • I think it's the fact that you're suddenly moving into 5-6 hours a day of practices plus still putting in workouts in the weight room and past college age, the body is not a fan of taking that much stress that suddenly.

    For me, as a guy not THAT far removed from actually playing, I am more amazed that these guys go through 23 weeks of football (plus playoffs) and are still standing at the end of the year. I've also longed believe there would de pretty much nothing more miserable than having to play in the Pro Bowl after that long of a season.

  • Could the advent of of injuries in recent years have anything to do with changes in the way the league practices? It's hard to believe that the rash of hamstrings and knee injuries are due to players being out of shape.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • I don't know the cause....or what can prevent these injuries.....I just want them to happen to other teams, not the Browns. We have had more than double our share of them over the years. Let the fucking Steelers and Ravens have their player break/tear/sprain/concuss etc. their shit. Not ours.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    I don't know the cause....or what can prevent these injuries.....I just want them to happen to other teams, not the Browns. We have had more than double our share of them over the years. Let the fucking Steelers and Ravens have their player break/tear/sprain/concuss etc. their shit. Not ours.

    @the-gipper said:

    Let the fucking Steelers and Ravens have their player break/tear/sprain/concuss etc. their shit. Not ours.

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start....😉

    MudflyM The GipperT 2 Replies
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  • Now hopefully Rapelessburger will go down for the season.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Now hopefully Rapelessburger will go down for the season.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Now hopefully Rapelessburger will go down for the season.

    I never like to see anyone get hurt....but would make an exception for the fat Rapist.....

  • http://www.centredaily.com/2015/08/10/4870015/browns-pro-bowl-tackle-joe-thomas.html

    Fuck me.

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride

  • "early word is it's not serious"

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/joe_thomas_leaves_practice_aft.html

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  • Guess we can see what Erving's got now.

  • W wargograw

    Guess we can see what Erving's got now.

    @wargograw said:

    Guess we can see what Erving's got now.

    Rookie at tackle?? nawway. heal it JT. on tape Cam a better C or G than T imo.

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @the-gipper said:

    Let the fucking Steelers and Ravens have their player break/tear/sprain/concuss etc. their shit. Not ours.

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start....😉

    @mudfly said:

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start.... 😉

    And it just got better.......Steelers sign Garrett Hartley....

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @mudfly said:

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start.... 😉

    And it just got better.......Steelers sign Garrett Hartley....

    @mudfly said:

    And it just got better.......Steelers sign Garrett Hartley....

    Most accurate kicker in Cleveland Browns history.

    Zombo

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @the-gipper said:

    Let the fucking Steelers and Ravens have their player break/tear/sprain/concuss etc. their shit. Not ours.

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start....😉

    @mudfly said:

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start.... 😉

    How did that happen? Suisham was an outstanding kicker. Heck....with the new extra point rules where they are no longer automatic, this could be important.

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mudfly said:

    Well.....looks like the Squealers lost their kicker yesterday.....it's a start.... 😉

    How did that happen? Suisham was an outstanding kicker. Heck....with the new extra point rules where they are no longer automatic, this could be important.

    @the-gipper said:

    How did that happen? Suisham was an outstanding kicker. Heck....with the new extra point rules where they are no longer automatic, this could be important.

    He blew out his knee on his plant leg.....done for the season(at least).....

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