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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
    #6

    Can we change this guy's name to fish taco?

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Obvious troll is obvious.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #8

    Our receivers are pretty solid.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #9

    ... as are our TEs... Just not flashy... or if you prefer, shiny...

    Taco,

    For the 6 years from 2008 thru 2013 we were 4-12 half of the time and 5-11 the other half. There are a lot of ways to build a team and in that stretch we tried a lot of them.

    Now we're building a ball-control, low-risk Offense to complement what I'm guessing you noticed is a damn good Defense.

    That means a strong O-line and good set of RBs. Add a PAP QB and a set of possession WRs and wha-laa... a "disappointing" 7-9.

    As we move forward other pieces will be added. We were only a couple of drinks on a charter flight away from having a WR weapon. Hell even our QB in waiting started to look like a QB worth waiting for. We may have even fallen into a UDFA TE.

    I love the smell of progress in the morning... It smells like... well... progress.

    Cause you know only victory smells like victory...

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #10

    i'm for one quite pleased by what i'm seeing out of Benjamin and Hartline so far. Barnidge and Dray look really good too, almost Jordan Cameron good but a little more stout. It all falls on McCown, but i'm also pleasantly surprised by how mobile and nimble that fucker is. He has to slide obviously, i will throw something at the screen if I see him taking shots like that during the season that aren't in potentially game winnign situations. But still, dude is kind of looking solid. He might be one of the smartest if not the smartest qb we've had since the team came back.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #11

    A case could be made were bottom 5 at RB too.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #12

    Who needs skill players when you have an O-line like us? amIright?!?!?

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
    #13

    I saw a decent amount of burst out of crow and west in game 3. A number of times they ran straight up the gut for 10 yard or so gainers. If the line can open those holes and they can take advantage of them we don't need an adrian peterson type.

  • ... as are our TEs... Just not flashy... or if you prefer, shiny...

    Taco,

    For the 6 years from 2008 thru 2013 we were 4-12 half of the time and 5-11 the other half. There are a lot of ways to build a team and in that stretch we tried a lot of them.

    Now we're building a ball-control, low-risk Offense to complement what I'm guessing you noticed is a damn good Defense.

    That means a strong O-line and good set of RBs. Add a PAP QB and a set of possession WRs and wha-laa... a "disappointing" 7-9.

    As we move forward other pieces will be added. We were only a couple of drinks on a charter flight away from having a WR weapon. Hell even our QB in waiting started to look like a QB worth waiting for. We may have even fallen into a UDFA TE.

    I love the smell of progress in the morning... It smells like... well... progress.

    Cause you know only victory smells like victory...

    DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
    #14

    @tour2ma said:

    ... as are our TEs... Just not flashy... or if you prefer, shiny...

    Taco,

    For the 6 years from 2008 thru 2013 we were 4-12 half of the time and 5-11 the other half. There are a lot of ways to build a team and in that stretch we tried a lot of them.

    Now we're building a ball-control, low-risk Offense to complement what I'm guessing you noticed is a damn good Defense.

    That means a strong O-line and good set of RBs. Add a PAP QB and a set of possession WRs and wha-laa... a "disappointing" 7-9.

    As we move forward other pieces will be added. We were only a couple of drinks on a charter flight away from having a WR weapon. Hell even our QB in waiting started to look like a QB worth waiting for. We may have even fallen into a UDFA TE.

    I love the smell of progress in the morning... It smells like... well... progress.

    Cause you know only victory smells like victory...

  • SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
    #15

    everyone including the coaches KNOW this is a throw away year.

  • everyone including the coaches KNOW this is a throw away year.

    Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @soju said:

    everyone including the coaches KNOW this is a throw away year.

    Is it? The coaches go 7-9 their first year and throw away the second year?

    Zombo

  • AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
    #17

    Being a Bucs fan, Obviously I call 315.gif

  • everyone including the coaches KNOW this is a throw away year.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #18

    @soju said:

    everyone including the coaches KNOW this is a throw away year.

    Someone's in mid-season form...

  • @soju said:

    everyone including the coaches KNOW this is a throw away year.

    Someone's in mid-season form...

    SojuS Soju wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @tour2ma said:

    Someone's in mid-season form...

    I'm not arguing with you about this. If we reach 8 wins this year consider it superbowl celebration worthy. If we win, the scores will be 13-6 type games.

    I hope our passing game resembles something of this century but something tells me that is wishful thinking. Our QB of the future will be sitting in next year's draft. These words are trustworthy and true.

  • @tour2ma said:

    Someone's in mid-season form...

    I'm not arguing with you about this. If we reach 8 wins this year consider it superbowl celebration worthy. If we win, the scores will be 13-6 type games.

    I hope our passing game resembles something of this century but something tells me that is wishful thinking. Our QB of the future will be sitting in next year's draft. These words are trustworthy and true.

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @soju said:

    I'm not arguing with you about this. If we reach 8 wins this year consider it superbowl celebration worthy. If we win, the scores will be 13-6 type games.

    I hope our passing game resembles something of this century but something tells me that is wishful thinking. Our QB of the future will be sitting in next year's draft. These words are trustworthy and true.

    i think i predicted 8-8 or 9-7....

    tougher schedule. if we get to 9-7 hopefully it's enough to eek out a playoff berth and that is SURELY nothing to dismiss as luck or lack of growth, just the opposite. you are prob right about our qb of the future. after building the lines and the defense i believe it will be time to go offensive playmakers while still adding depth to our lines.

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
    #21

    To say that "the coaches know it's a throw away year" tells me that Debbie hasn't played an organized sport past T-ball, much less coached a sport at any level. Our coaches are busting their asses with long days, and they're agonizing over every cut they have to make. They feed and shelter their families being a coach in a win now business, and they all know they'll all be gone if they don't win.......... and yet you think they're all just sitting around talking about 2-3 years from now?? Fucking ridiculous.

    I've read some pretty stupid things on this forum - quite a few from Debbie herself - but this one takes the cake. There isn't a member of the Browns organization that isn't giving their all to win, and to win now.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #22

    It may be throw away season to you but a lot of guys careers and livelihood hang in the balance and there is nobody on this team that aint lining up to win every week.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #23

    You make the statement that we may be the worst at these various skill positions.......now back it up.

    Give your ranking of all 32 teams at the Skill positions....

    Who has the best QB corps?

    Who has the best WR corps?

    Who has the best TE corps?

    Who has the best RB corps?

    If not this, but if you think the Browns are so low on the end of these rankings.....who do you think they are in competition with for the title of "The worst" of all these.

  • nickersN nickers wrote on last edited by
    #24

    Someone forgot to take they're Wellbutrin.

  • Flyin JF Flyin J wrote on last edited by
    #25

    QB - Packers Aaron Rodgers nuff said

    RB - Vikings Peterson is the best back and McKinnon is an intriguing guy, Asiata is servicable

    WR - Gotta go with the Giants if were looking at depth. ODB, Cruz, Randle and James Jones. If were just looking at top 2, Id take the Lions with Calvin and Golden.

    TE - Patriots. Gronk is the best TE to ever play, and they have decent depth with Chandler and Hoomanawanuwi