92.3 Sports Projecting the Browns 53 Man Roster Thru 3 Games
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Manziel to flex IR is risky given how many hard shots I saw McCown take last pre-season game. It would depend very much on what the MD's are saying about JM's injury and prognosis in terms of time of recovery expected.
Manziel to flex IR is risky given how many hard shots I saw McCown take last pre-season game. It would depend very much on what the MD's are saying about JM's injury and prognosis in terms of time of recovery expected.
I don't know how "risky" it is, Thad has a rating of 81.4 in 6 NFL starts, I don't think we would expect much more from Manziel over the first half of the season.
McCown is completely healthy, I don't like keeping three QBs.
I think if Manziel was healthy, we would have released Thad and hoped he stayed available if someone went down. Two healthy QBs is enough to keep on any roster IMO.
Zombo
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I don't see how someone like Jamie Meder doesn't make the team.
OFFENSE
WR: Dwayne Bowe, Taylor Gabriel, Travis Benjamin
LT: Joe Thomas
LG: Joel Bitonio, Vinston Painter
Alex MackRG: John Greco, Cameron Erving
RT: Mitchell Schwartz
TE: Gary Barnidge, Jim Dray, E.J. Bibbs
WR: Brian Hartline, Andrew Hawkins, Marlon Moore, Terrelle Pryor
QB: Josh McCown, Johnny Manziel, Thaddeus Lewis*
RB: Terrance West, Isaiah Crowell, Duke Johnson, Shaun Draughn
FB: Malcolm Johnson
DEFENSE
RE: Randy Starks, John Hughes
NT: Phil Taylor, Danny Shelton
LE: Desmond Bryant, Armonty Bryant, Xavier Cooper
OLB: Paul Kruger, Nate Orchard
MIKE: Karlos Dansby, Tank Carder
WILL: Craig Robertson, Chris Kirksey
OLB: Scott Solomon, Barkevious Mingo,
FS: Tashaun Gipson, Jordan Poyer
SS: Donte Whitner, Ibraheim Campbell
RCB: Tramon Williams, K’Wuan Williams, Pierre Desir
LCB: Joe Haden, Justin Gilbert, Johnson Bademosi
SPECIALISTS
LS: Charley Hughlett
P/H: Andy Lee
K: Carey Spear
*CB Charles Gaines makes the 53 if the Browns do not have to keep Thaddeus Lewis
This is pretty level-headed. I don't remember ever going with just 7 O-linemen, but I guess it wouldn't shock me if we tried it due to the versatility of Erving.
I don't think the plan was for Thad Lewis to make the team, but Johnny's sore elbow is probably going to cost a valuable roster spot to someone who has earned it (Gaines/Meder). If the guy can't practice how do we make him the sole backup at QB?
I agree that Bibbs has taken Housler's job, I don't feel that Jim Dray is an exciting selection, but you gotta have two good blocking tight ends (Barny and Dray) and these guys will also be called on to block for extra points and FGs if we are light on backup OL.
I think this roster overall shows that special teams is the key to making the roster as depth players (Moore, Carder, Poyer, Bademosi), we may have the best special teams in the league this year if the placekicker is good.
Not crazy about keeping the 4th RB (Draughn), again, would rather see Gaines and Meder over Thad and Draughn, but if Johnson misses more time with a concussion, then we have no choice but to keep another RB as well.
This may sound crazy, but I would almost be willing to put Manziel on that flex IR position where you can bring the guy back midway through the season and just go with McCown and Thad at QB and get another one of the hard-working young guys on the roster.
Zombo
Zombo said:
This is pretty level-headed. I don't remember ever going with just 7 O-linemen, but I guess it wouldn't shock me if we tried it due to the versatility of Erving.
I don't think the plan was for Thad Lewis to make the team, but Johnny's sore elbow is probably going to cost a valuable roster spot to someone who has earned it (Gaines/Meder). If the guy can't practice how do we make him the sole backup at QB?
I agree that Bibbs has taken Housler's job, I don't feel that Jim Dray is an exciting selection, but you gotta have two good blocking tight ends (Barny and Dray) and these guys will also be called on to block for extra points and FGs if we are light on backup OL.
I think this roster overall shows that special teams is the key to making the roster as depth players (Moore, Carder, Poyer, Bademosi), we may have the best special teams in the league this year if the placekicker is good.
Not crazy about keeping the 4th RB (Draughn), again, would rather see Gaines and Meder over Thad and Draughn, but if Johnson misses more time with a concussion, then we have no choice but to keep another RB as well.
This may sound crazy, but I would almost be willing to put Manziel on that flex IR position where you can bring the guy back midway through the season and just go with McCown and Thad at QB and get another one of the hard-working young guys on the roster.
Zombo
Don't think they keep Draughn. I also think they keep more than 10 DBs. They will stash the most ready to go OL on the PS but I wouldn't be surprised if Bowie makes the active roster. Doogie looks like the odd man out at TE. They like Malcolm Johnson at FB but Bibbs kind of plays that role too. Might only keep one of them and try stashing the other. The DL is missing Meder and Billy Winn and I don't see them leaving themselves thin there, either.
We are going to be cutting some pretty damn good players no matter what. Don't remember cuts ever being this competetive. I think for sure Pryor has to play Thursday night. I don't think they can justify cutting a really good player for him. Also still wouldn't be surprised if Marlon Moore gets cut. I know they love the guy, but if you are keeping Bademosi, Poyer and Carder for mostly specials, Moore might be the odd guy out. Pullard may beat out Carder too.
I would like to see them pick up Fred Jackson and eventually go with Duke, Crow and FJ. Piss on West (depending how the injuries go the rest of camp).
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Zombo said:
This is pretty level-headed. I don't remember ever going with just 7 O-linemen, but I guess it wouldn't shock me if we tried it due to the versatility of Erving.
I don't think the plan was for Thad Lewis to make the team, but Johnny's sore elbow is probably going to cost a valuable roster spot to someone who has earned it (Gaines/Meder). If the guy can't practice how do we make him the sole backup at QB?
I agree that Bibbs has taken Housler's job, I don't feel that Jim Dray is an exciting selection, but you gotta have two good blocking tight ends (Barny and Dray) and these guys will also be called on to block for extra points and FGs if we are light on backup OL.
I think this roster overall shows that special teams is the key to making the roster as depth players (Moore, Carder, Poyer, Bademosi), we may have the best special teams in the league this year if the placekicker is good.
Not crazy about keeping the 4th RB (Draughn), again, would rather see Gaines and Meder over Thad and Draughn, but if Johnson misses more time with a concussion, then we have no choice but to keep another RB as well.
This may sound crazy, but I would almost be willing to put Manziel on that flex IR position where you can bring the guy back midway through the season and just go with McCown and Thad at QB and get another one of the hard-working young guys on the roster.
Zombo
Don't think they keep Draughn. I also think they keep more than 10 DBs. They will stash the most ready to go OL on the PS but I wouldn't be surprised if Bowie makes the active roster. Doogie looks like the odd man out at TE. They like Malcolm Johnson at FB but Bibbs kind of plays that role too. Might only keep one of them and try stashing the other. The DL is missing Meder and Billy Winn and I don't see them leaving themselves thin there, either.
We are going to be cutting some pretty damn good players no matter what. Don't remember cuts ever being this competetive. I think for sure Pryor has to play Thursday night. I don't think they can justify cutting a really good player for him. Also still wouldn't be surprised if Marlon Moore gets cut. I know they love the guy, but if you are keeping Bademosi, Poyer and Carder for mostly specials, Moore might be the odd guy out. Pullard may beat out Carder too.
I would like to see them pick up Fred Jackson and eventually go with Duke, Crow and FJ. Piss on West (depending how the injuries go the rest of camp).
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So, what would the practice squad look like? Just my best dumb guesses....
Charles Gaines CB Would rather have him on the active roster, kid can PLAYDylan Wynn DLJamie Meder DLTravis Coons KHayes Pullard ILBMike Reilly OLBDarius Jennings WR Would rather have him on the active roster, kid can PLAYDarrian Miller OLLandon Feichter DB/SJosh Lenz WRBut Shane Wynn gets a spot... replace Koons?I don't know how to figure it, just guessin -
What "big" names get cut here?
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Billy Winn may be biggest, but two draftees, Mayle and Pullard fail to make the 53 as does FA Housler.
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Billy Winn may be biggest, but two draftees, Mayle and Pullard fail to make the 53 as does FA Housler.
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Pullard has looked good when he was in there.
Yeah, if he beats out Carder I would not be too surprised.
Zombo
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Right now, I have 43 players that have already made this team, based on their experience, performance, flashes, and potential....
They are:
QBs - McCown / Manziel
RBs - Crowell / West / Draughn / D.Johnson / M.Johnson (FB)
WRs - Bowe / Hartline / Gabriel / Benjamin / Hawkins
TE - Barnidge
OT - Thomas / Schwartz
OG - Bitonio / Greco / Erving
C -Mack
DE - D.Bryant / Starks / Cooper / Hughes
DT - Shelton / Taylor
OLB - Kruger / Solomon / Mingo / Orchard / A.Bryant
ILB - Dansby / Robertson / Kirksey
CB - Haden / T.Williams / K.Williams / Desir / Gilbert
S - Whitner / Gipson / Poyer
LS - Hughlett
P - Lee
One spot goes to the winner of the K competetion. That makes 44...
That leaves 9 roster spots for IMHO these 19 players: (I've bolded my picks)
QB Lewis
WR Lenz
WR Mayle
WR Moore
WR Pryor
TE Dray
TE Bibbs
TE Housler
OT McDonald
OG Painter
DE Winn
DE Meder
ILB Carder
ILB Pullard
CB Gaines
CB James
CB Bademosi
CB Nelson
S Campbell
I think Rankin, McDaniel, and the loser of the K battle will be cut by the end of the day today...
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