* * * Official Raiders @ Browns Game Day Thread * * *

blowe

This team underachieves too fucking hard sometimes.

Haden looked inept on that first drive. How in the world do you let a rookie burn you that badly?

tinythinker

Fortunately, the Raiders showed up to slow down Oakland...

tinythinker

@tinythinker said:
Fortunately, the Raiders showed up to slow down Oakland...

But the Browns have managed to keep the Oakland drive going

gernthefish

We should have drafted Carr.

bringbackbrownie2

Can we cut mingo yet? He can't set the edge, rush the passer, or make tackles. What good is he?

jrb12711

Another series the Browns gave up totally on incompetence in a lousy penalty. There's no team in the NFL that can't get out of their own like the Browns do I swear to God.

Unsympathetic

2 straight conversions to.. Barnidge? That will never happen again this season.

BROWNS-MILF

These announcers for real? They talk about the raiders like they are the packers or something.

ahitz3

Why not put Johnny in for red zone? Opens up a whole new option.

JAFBF

Can't believe they were going to go for it on 4th Down, glad we got the Penalty that time /smh

jrb12711

that was a cleveland browns offensive series if I've ever seen one.

BaconHound

Browns red zone threat, Gary Barnidge, that's right no need for good WRs.

Also want a fantastic offensive line we've got

Unsympathetic

That's just who we want covering a slot WR! Another great defensive series by Cleveland.

jrb12711

That's a HUGE missed pick on that TD but it makes no difference.

Richiswhere

Ray Farmer says ........ Bowe & Hartline > Crabtree & Cooper

bringbackbrownie2

@richiswhere said:
Ray Farmer says ........ Bowe & Hartline > Crabtree & Cooper

Farmer may devalue WRs but Cooper was off the board before we picked..

hoorta

@gernthefish said:
We should have drafted Carr.

Yah- what else is new?

@baconhound said:

Browns red zone threat, Gary Barnidge, that's right no need for good WRs.

Also want a fantastic offensive line we've got

Total complete suckage- suck, suck, suck. SUCK. McCowns sucks, the playcalling sucks- the defense sucks, Schwartz sucks- I waste my Sunday afternoos watching this suckage?

jrb12711

This isn't an overreaction IMO: I see why Josh deserved a chance to start today, I get it. But it's obvious this whole team plays down when he's under center. The team plays a lot different when Manziel is in there. Correct your mistake and put Manziel in.

tinythinker

So, you know, half time adjustments and all of that. Which version of the team shows up in the second half, and such.

Could be a surprise. Will find out soon.

bringbackbrownie2

@jrb12711 said:
This isn't an overreaction IMO: I see why Josh deserved a chance to start today, I get it. But it's obvious this whole team plays down when he's under center. The team plays a lot different when Manziel is in there. Correct your mistake and put Manziel in.

Based on what evidence? 2 quarters of play? If anything it proves our defense still isn't very good despite the focus over the past 2 years of draft picks...