***Official Browns Vs Broncos Game Day Thread***
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he's horrible? set the franchise record for passing last week.
what was horrible was the fact that flip couldn't draw up something that the broncos hadn't seen in that situation yesterday. who didn't know we'd run or pap those 3 downs going in reverse on both drives where we coulda won the game?
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he's horrible? set the franchise record for passing last week.
what was horrible was the fact that flip couldn't draw up something that the broncos hadn't seen in that situation yesterday. who didn't know we'd run or pap those 3 downs going in reverse on both drives where we coulda won the game?
he's horrible? set the franchise record for passing last week.
what was horrible was the fact that flip couldn't draw up something that the broncos hadn't seen in that situation yesterday. who didn't know we'd run or pap those 3 downs going in reverse on both drives where we coulda won the game?
I said he's horrible under pressure. Context of the entire phrase matters. How many times has he been under pressure and he holds onto the ball way to long or makes a dumb decision. He even said post game that he has to get rid of the ball quicker. Breaking one team record is also no reason to celebrate the coming of McCown. Who was that Green Bay QB that had that one killer game a few years ago? Got signed for some decent money... that's right, I can't even think of his name now. When McCown has time he can be good. We have seen that, there is no argument there. But with our OLine playing like it is, Josh and FlipO have to accommodate that with the play calling and execution.
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and the key word there in every game we've won OR lost is lack of execution. it takes time to play to a high level because of getting to know your teammates and getting to know their capabilities and trusting in knowing that they will be (in position) on every play. the browns aren't there yet. blowing up FOs and coaching staffs doesn't do anything positive in that direction. adding and upgrading talent plus getting keener with schemes and play calling does.
and to know their fans have their back might mean a little something too.
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he's horrible? set the franchise record for passing last week.
what was horrible was the fact that flip couldn't draw up something that the broncos hadn't seen in that situation yesterday. who didn't know we'd run or pap those 3 downs going in reverse on both drives where we coulda won the game?
I said he's horrible under pressure. Context of the entire phrase matters. How many times has he been under pressure and he holds onto the ball way to long or makes a dumb decision. He even said post game that he has to get rid of the ball quicker. Breaking one team record is also no reason to celebrate the coming of McCown. Who was that Green Bay QB that had that one killer game a few years ago? Got signed for some decent money... that's right, I can't even think of his name now. When McCown has time he can be good. We have seen that, there is no argument there. But with our OLine playing like it is, Josh and FlipO have to accommodate that with the play calling and execution.
I said he's horrible under pressure. Context of the entire phrase matters. How many times has he been under pressure and he holds onto the ball way to long or makes a dumb decision. He even said post game that he has to get rid of the ball quicker. Breaking one team record is also no reason to celebrate the coming of McCown. Who was that Green Bay QB that had that one killer game a few years ago? Got signed for some decent money... that's right, I can't even think of his name now. When McCown has time he can be good. We have seen that, there is no argument there. But with our OLine playing like it is, Josh and FlipO have to accommodate that with the play calling and execution.
Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback
Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.
That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.
Whitner gave up 3 points to an easy tackle he missed - which sucked too. Many more fundamental mistakes on defense throughout.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.
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I said he's horrible under pressure. Context of the entire phrase matters. How many times has he been under pressure and he holds onto the ball way to long or makes a dumb decision. He even said post game that he has to get rid of the ball quicker. Breaking one team record is also no reason to celebrate the coming of McCown. Who was that Green Bay QB that had that one killer game a few years ago? Got signed for some decent money... that's right, I can't even think of his name now. When McCown has time he can be good. We have seen that, there is no argument there. But with our OLine playing like it is, Josh and FlipO have to accommodate that with the play calling and execution.
Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback
Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.
That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.
Whitner gave up 3 points to an easy tackle he missed - which sucked too. Many more fundamental mistakes on defense throughout.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.
Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback
Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.
That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.
Whitner gave up 3 points to an easy tackle he missed - which sucked too. Many more fundamental mistakes on defense throughout.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.
i guess the HOFers pick six was moronic as well? yes denver is LUCKY to be 6-0. so that means every other team they beat were just dumb and lousy.
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Forgive me if I say this, but I find this discussion about McCown pointless.
Yesterday Pittsburgh put in the third string QB and won against Arizona. But the Steelers have a lot of playmakers on the field. Players that pull out the right thing at the right time in almost every game.
If we don't have playmakers in our team we won't go anywhere.
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I said he's horrible under pressure. kidd
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Most qb's are, when they don't have the wr's open,
and are frustrated.
We've seen Peyton Manning throw 3 or was it 4 ints in a playoff game before.
Did he suddenly become a stupid qb? No.
Aaron Rodgers' play is sucking - int's fumbles. He is missing his wr's being
healthy, for part of it.
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and the key word there in every game we've won OR lost is lack of execution. it takes time to play to a high level because of getting to know your teammates and getting to know their capabilities and trusting in knowing that they will be (in position) on every play. the browns aren't there yet. blowing up FOs and coaching staffs doesn't do anything positive in that direction. adding and upgrading talent plus getting keener with schemes and play calling does.
and to know their fans have their back might mean a little something too.
and the key word there in every game we've won OR lost is lack of execution. it takes time to play to a high level because of getting to know your teammates and getting to know their capabilities and trusting in knowing that they will be (in position) on every play. the browns aren't there yet. blowing up FOs and coaching staffs doesn't do anything positive in that direction. adding and upgrading talent plus getting keener with schemes and play calling does.
and to know their fans have their back might mean a little something too.
Agreed... right now, I'm looking at Farmer and the play calling right now. So far I trust Pettine... I'm not sure on FlipO and Farmer is on my short list.
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I said he's horrible under pressure. kidd
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Most qb's are, when they don't have the wr's open,
and are frustrated.
We've seen Peyton Manning throw 3 or was it 4 ints in a playoff game before.
Did he suddenly become a stupid qb? No.
Aaron Rodgers' play is sucking - int's fumbles. He is missing his wr's being
healthy, for part of it.
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Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback
Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.
That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.
Whitner gave up 3 points to an easy tackle he missed - which sucked too. Many more fundamental mistakes on defense throughout.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.
i guess the HOFers pick six was moronic as well? yes denver is LUCKY to be 6-0. so that means every other team they beat were just dumb and lousy.
i guess the HOFers pick six was moronic as well? yes denver is LUCKY to be 6-0. so that means every other team they beat were just dumb and lousy.
The HOFer is on the last season of his career. His arm is toasted and their OL and running game are doing him no favors.
I didn't say they were lucky to be 6-0, I said they sucked big time yesterday and we couldn't take advantage of it.
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Huh??
Hes completing 70% and has 15 td's against 2 Ints. And has the 3rd highest rating in the league.
So if playin GREAT means he sucks. Then I agree. Otherwise, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.
I agree with Cal he's terrible. Why on earth would we want that sack of shit on the Browns? He's awful..like you said 15 TD's and 2 INT's <-----that's some ginger weedon shit right there.
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I'll take Aaron Rodgers on his death bed over a fresh out of college and having just banged the head cheerleader, Josh McCown.
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You've got to be a gay mother fucker.
You use both brain cells to come up with that one?
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I said he's horrible under pressure. Context of the entire phrase matters. How many times has he been under pressure and he holds onto the ball way to long or makes a dumb decision. He even said post game that he has to get rid of the ball quicker. Breaking one team record is also no reason to celebrate the coming of McCown. Who was that Green Bay QB that had that one killer game a few years ago? Got signed for some decent money... that's right, I can't even think of his name now. When McCown has time he can be good. We have seen that, there is no argument there. But with our OLine playing like it is, Josh and FlipO have to accommodate that with the play calling and execution.
Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback
Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.
That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.
Whitner gave up 3 points to an easy tackle he missed - which sucked too. Many more fundamental mistakes on defense throughout.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.
Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback
Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.
Sure... goes with being the starting QB.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
Owned this in his presser. Said the pre-snap look fooled him. Personally I wonder if he was expecting a sight adjustment from Benji, but unlike was the case with Hoyer, we'll never hear any such thing from Josh.
Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.
Sure there are times, but often? "Often" I have seen him deliver strikes just before getting hit. Have even seen a few times that he threw as he was being wrapped up... and completed the pass. Sometimes you have to consider what the alternative to taking the sack is.
That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.
So this one he should have held? I think the announcers had it right. Hit as he was throwing, he could not get enough on the throw to get it OB.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.
Pretty sure if we checked the past five weeks we'd find five other teams thinking the same thing. Denver is just winning ugly right now.
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Faded said:
Screw that fans crap. That was for 30 years ago. At these prices for tickets, parking, beer, and hot dogs, I'm a consumer, and I find the product is deficient...
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of you haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
I'll disagree Mik. The hardcore folks who pony up each year are the "fans" in the truest sense of the word. These are the folks shelling out anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 every year to get fed a crummy Browns product, and overpriced concessions. And for 1\2 the season in Cleveland- in freezing weather. Some of us are driving hundreds of miles to get to the game on top of it. I've often said- if you're a long time Season Ticket holder- you're more married to your seats than you are to your wife. It's just getting really old, seeing teams go from the playoffs to the basement, and back to playoff caliber (Panthers, Bengals) while since 1999, the Browns have largely been the joke of the NFL.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.That pick 6 happened right in front of me- If Benji ran the wrong route, I'll give McCown a pass- but that ball was under thrown by 10 yards.
That's the point- we had numerous opportunities to win that game- but we blew it. As they say, good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose. When we went in full reverse after Mingo's interception- that old feeling of impending doom crept over me.
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who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of you haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
I'll disagree Mik. The hardcore folks who pony up each year are the "fans" in the truest sense of the word. These are the folks shelling out anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 every year to get fed a crummy Browns product, and overpriced concessions. And for 1\2 the season in Cleveland- in freezing weather. Some of us are driving hundreds of miles to get to the game on top of it. I've often said- if you're a long time Season Ticket holder- you're more married to your seats than you are to your wife. It's just getting really old, seeing teams go from the playoffs to the basement, and back to playoff caliber (Panthers, Bengals) while since 1999, the Browns have largely been the joke of the NFL.
McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.That pick 6 happened right in front of me- If Benji ran the wrong route, I'll give McCown a pass- but that ball was under thrown by 10 yards.
That's the point- we had numerous opportunities to win that game- but we blew it. As they say, good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose. When we went in full reverse after Mingo's interception- that old feeling of impending doom crept over me.
I'll disagree Mik. The hardcore folks who pony up each year are the "fans" in the truest sense of the word. These are the folks shelling out anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 every year to get fed a crummy Browns product, and overpriced concessions. And for 1\2 the season in Cleveland- in freezing weather. Some of us are driving hundreds of miles to get to the game on top of it. I've often said- if you're a long time Season Ticket holder- you're more married to your seats than you are to your wife. It's just getting really old, seeing teams go from the playoffs to the basement, and back to playoff caliber (Panthers, Bengals) while since 1999, the Browns have largely been the joke of the NFL.
That pick 6 happened right in front of me- If Benji ran the wrong route, I'll give McCown a pass- but that ball was under thrown by 10 yards.
That's the point- we had numerous opportunities to win that game- but we blew it. As they say, good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose. When we went in full reverse after Mingo's interception- that old feeling of impending doom crept over me.
I'll disagree Mik. The hardcore folks who pony up each year are the "fans" in the truest sense of the word. These are the folks shelling out anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 every year to get fed a crummy Browns product, and overpriced concessions. And for 1\2 the season in Cleveland- in freezing weather. Some of us are driving hundreds of miles to get to the game on top of it. I've often said- if you're a long time Season Ticket holder- you're more married to your seats than you are to your wife. It's just getting really old, seeing teams go from the playoffs to the basement, and back to playoff caliber (Panthers, Bengals) while since 1999, the Browns have largely been the joke of the NFL.
That pick 6 happened right in front of me- If Benji ran the wrong route, I'll give McCown a pass- but that ball was under thrown by 10 yards.
That's the point- we had numerous opportunities to win that game- but we blew it. As they say, good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose. When we went in full reverse after Mingo's interception- that old feeling of impending doom crept over me.
thats alot of moola....5k...i could not afford that even if they had a good team, which they don't. I know it is not all rich folks spending that kind of cash. If your middle class, you need to rethink your spending habits. And looking at the long term for this team, at this point, it does not look good...Who is our qb, will we ever have a really good rb, will the defense ever have a consistant pass rush. This is what, yr 16 and we still suck. I'd be seriously thinking about putting that 5k per yr toward the ever increasing health care costs. I think that is just a little more important than football...
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Faded said:
Screw that fans crap. That was for 30 years ago. At these prices for tickets, parking, beer, and hot dogs, I'm a consumer, and I find the product is deficient...
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
excellent...lets demolish all the stadiums then. Shit, we the taxpayers have to pay for them anyway. I agree.....
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Faded said:
Screw that fans crap. That was for 30 years ago. At these prices for tickets, parking, beer, and hot dogs, I'm a consumer, and I find the product is deficient...
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
Spoken like a "true" fan
Not willing to put the time and effort in to cheer on your team . . . What a "soldier" you are
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Huh??
Hes completing 70% and has 15 td's against 2 Ints. And has the 3rd highest rating in the league.
So if playin GREAT means he sucks. Then I agree. Otherwise, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.
Well, you think that because you don't understand. Try looking into it. You and cleve don't have to
knee jerk about it.
I have been talking about McCown not having star receivers. And Aaron Rodgers got another wr hurt.
So what happens? He's having trouble. I happen to have said what I said for a reason.
http://sportsnaut.com/2015/10/aaron-rodgers-losing-sleep-over-struggling-packers-offense/
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-ty-montgomery-ankle-injury-101815
"On Sunday against the Rams, Green Bayβs offense did sputter, as indicated on the teamβs website. Here are some numbers that clearly illustrate this:....
Like I posted before, the Browns are 5th in the NFL in the 3rd down conversion rankings.
The Packers were only 4 of 13. Rodgers threw two INT's, and had a fumble.
You would bitch if McCown did that. Sure, Rodgers is an outstanding qb ...
but if even an outstanding qb can suffer with the loss of his wr's... why the hell not
give McCown some freakin credit for doing as well as he is doing when he hasn't had them
in the first place?
- Eighty-six yards rushing.
- Four of 13 on third down.
- Three giveaways, which included two Rodgers interceptions and a Rodgers fumble."
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who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.
2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.
Spoken like a "true" fan
Not willing to put the time and effort in to cheer on your team . . . What a "soldier" you are
First, I am a season ticket holder. I enjoy going. There are rare weeks when I decide to chill and watch it on my 65" so I send family. In Mik's defense people support and cheer on their team in different ways. Mik for example made some damn fine Brownsboard tshirts. Everyone can't go to the stadium, that doesn't make them a lesser fan per se in my book.Spoken like a "true" fan
Not willing to put the time and effort in to cheer on your team . . . What a "soldier" you are
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