***Official Browns Vs Broncos Game Day Thread***

bbedward

@miktoxic said:

i guess the HOFers pick six was moronic as well? yes denver is LUCKY to be 6-0. so that means every other team they beat were just dumb and lousy.

The HOFer is on the last season of his career. His arm is toasted and their OL and running game are doing him no favors.

I didn't say they were lucky to be 6-0, I said they sucked big time yesterday and we couldn't take advantage of it.

Clevfan4life

@manzier said:

Huh??

Hes completing 70% and has 15 td's against 2 Ints. And has the 3rd highest rating in the league.

So if playin GREAT means he sucks. Then I agree. Otherwise, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

I agree with Cal he's terrible. Why on earth would we want that sack of shit on the Browns? He's awful..like you said 15 TD's and 2 INT's <-----that's some ginger weedon shit right there.

BrownsKidd

I'll take Aaron Rodgers on his death bed over a fresh out of college and having just banged the head cheerleader, Josh McCown.

nickers

@tour2ma said:
You use both brain cells to come up with that one?

He thought he had 2 pubic hairs till one pissed...

Tour2ma

@bbedward said:

Hoyer set an NFL record for biggest road comeback

Otherwise, McCown sucked a fat one yesterday and he's a big reason why we lost.

Sure... goes with being the starting QB.

McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.

Owned this in his presser. Said the pre-snap look fooled him. Personally I wonder if he was expecting a sight adjustment from Benji, but unlike was the case with Hoyer, we'll never hear any such thing from Josh.

Often times McCown sees a blitz that gets picked up pretty well, but he holds it into a sack. Even when he gets bumped and recovers, still holds it til he gets sacked. Took sacks in overtime which cost us one opportunity to win.

Sure there are times, but often? "Often" I have seen him deliver strikes just before getting hit. Have even seen a few times that he threw as he was being wrapped up... and completed the pass. Sometimes you have to consider what the alternative to taking the sack is.

That interception at the end of regulation? Totally boneheaded. We had 3 timeouts and time. Yet another opportunity to win lost.

So this one he should have held? I think the announcers had it right. Hit as he was throwing, he could not get enough on the throw to get it OB.

I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.

Pretty sure if we checked the past five weeks we'd find five other teams thinking the same thing. Denver is just winning ugly right now.

hoorta

@miktoxic said:

who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.

2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of you haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.

I'll disagree Mik. The hardcore folks who pony up each year are the "fans" in the truest sense of the word. These are the folks shelling out anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 every year to get fed a crummy Browns product, and overpriced concessions. And for 1\2 the season in Cleveland- in freezing weather. Some of us are driving hundreds of miles to get to the game on top of it. I've often said- if you're a long time Season Ticket holder- you're more married to your seats than you are to your wife. It's just getting really old, seeing teams go from the playoffs to the basement, and back to playoff caliber (Panthers, Bengals) while since 1999, the Browns have largely been the joke of the NFL.

@bbedward said:

McCown's pick 6 was totally moronic. Before the ball was snapped that's where it was going, he thought it would work before looking.
I'm not happy about this one, it's not a matter of playing them tough. Denver sucked yesterday and blew every opportunity to put us away, especially on offense. We just happened to not take the W that Denver practically gift wrapped for us.

That pick 6 happened right in front of me- If Benji ran the wrong route, I'll give McCown a pass- but that ball was under thrown by 10 yards.

That's the point- we had numerous opportunities to win that game- but we blew it. As they say, good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose. When we went in full reverse after Mingo's interception- that old feeling of impending doom crept over me.

browns52

@hoorta said:

I'll disagree Mik. The hardcore folks who pony up each year are the "fans" in the truest sense of the word. These are the folks shelling out anywhere from $1,000 to $5,000 every year to get fed a crummy Browns product, and overpriced concessions. And for 1\2 the season in Cleveland- in freezing weather. Some of us are driving hundreds of miles to get to the game on top of it. I've often said- if you're a long time Season Ticket holder- you're more married to your seats than you are to your wife. It's just getting really old, seeing teams go from the playoffs to the basement, and back to playoff caliber (Panthers, Bengals) while since 1999, the Browns have largely been the joke of the NFL.

That pick 6 happened right in front of me- If Benji ran the wrong route, I'll give McCown a pass- but that ball was under thrown by 10 yards.

That's the point- we had numerous opportunities to win that game- but we blew it. As they say, good teams find a way to win, bad teams find a way to lose. When we went in full reverse after Mingo's interception- that old feeling of impending doom crept over me.

thats alot of moola....5k...i could not afford that even if they had a good team, which they don't. I know it is not all rich folks spending that kind of cash. If your middle class, you need to rethink your spending habits. And looking at the long term for this team, at this point, it does not look good...Who is our qb, will we ever have a really good rb, will the defense ever have a consistant pass rush. This is what, yr 16 and we still suck. I'd be seriously thinking about putting that 5k per yr toward the ever increasing health care costs. I think that is just a little more important than football...

browns52

@miktoxic said:

who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.

2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.

excellent...lets demolish all the stadiums then. Shit, we the taxpayers have to pay for them anyway. I agree.....

Why

@miktoxic said:

who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.

2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.

Spoken like a "true" fan

Not willing to put the time and effort in to cheer on your team . . . What a "soldier" you are

calfoxwc

@manzier said:

Huh??

Hes completing 70% and has 15 td's against 2 Ints. And has the 3rd highest rating in the league.

So if playin GREAT means he sucks. Then I agree. Otherwise, thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

Well, you think that because you don't understand. Try looking into it. You and cleve don't have to

knee jerk about it.

I have been talking about McCown not having star receivers. And Aaron Rodgers got another wr hurt.

So what happens? He's having trouble. I happen to have said what I said for a reason.

http://sportsnaut.com/2015/10/aaron-rodgers-losing-sleep-over-struggling-packers-offense/

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-ty-montgomery-ankle-injury-101815

"On Sunday against the Rams, Green Bay’s offense did sputter, as indicated on the team’s website. Here are some numbers that clearly illustrate this:....

Like I posted before, the Browns are 5th in the NFL in the 3rd down conversion rankings.

The Packers were only 4 of 13. Rodgers threw two INT's, and had a fumble.

You would bitch if McCown did that. Sure, Rodgers is an outstanding qb ...

but if even an outstanding qb can suffer with the loss of his wr's... why the hell not

give McCown some freakin credit for doing as well as he is doing when he hasn't had them

in the first place?

Eighty-six yards rushing.
Four of 13 on third down.
Three giveaways, which included two Rodgers interceptions and a Rodgers fumble."

jcam222

@why said:

Spoken like a "true" fan

Not willing to put the time and effort in to cheer on your team . . . What a "soldier" you are

First, I am a season ticket holder. I enjoy going. There are rare weeks when I decide to chill and watch it on my 65" so I send family. In Mik's defense people support and cheer on their team in different ways. Mik for example made some damn fine Brownsboard tshirts. Everyone can't go to the stadium, that doesn't make them a lesser fan per se in my book.

LondonBrown

Flying into cle from London next week, I should probably see a psychiatrist

miktoxic

@why said:

Spoken like a "true" fan

Not willing to put the time and effort in to cheer on your team . . . What a "soldier" you are

yeah, i know. i've only been giving my blood sweat and tears for the team since i met dave logan in 1980 (prob weren't even born yet were you?). have never lived in ohio since. time and effort. ha, you let me know what you do that takes such time and effort. then i'll tell you what i do.

punk.

miktoxic

@londonbrown said:
Flying into cle from London next week, I should probably see a psychiatrist

then a bartender.

Why

@jcam222 said:
First, I am a season ticket holder. I enjoy going. There are rare weeks when I decide to chill and watch it on my 65" so I send family. In Mik's defense people support and cheer on their team in different ways. Mik for example made some damn fine Brownsboard tshirts. Everyone can't go to the stadium, that doesn't make them a lesser fan per se in my book.

I hear ya,

But being so quick to call out others "fandom" because we get frustrated and pissed off at the product we continually get on the field, then basically saying those of us who invest in the season tickets, gas, money, etc. etc. to cheer for our team are the "dumb" ones.

Maybe if he invested more than just watching the games in a bar, where big tittied women tend his every need, he'd be less likely to call people out who are tired of the same rhetoric we continually hear.

Why

@miktoxic said:

yeah, i know. i've only been giving my blood sweat and tears for the team since i met dave logan in 1980 (prob weren't even born yet were you?). have never lived in ohio since. time and effort. ha, you let me know what you do that takes such time and effort. then i'll tell you what i do.

punk.

You're right, you're older than me, which means you at least have memories of the Browns being a competitive football team. The Browns were stolen right as I was becoming a die hard fan. So the only memories I have are misery and tales of days of old.

You should be happy there are fans my age that aren't apathetic to the way the Browns continually "fight hard, but come up just short".

miktoxic

you think 'we' apathetic fans are happy when the browns lose?

when i first joined this board i was worse than half of you. bitching and complaining. screaming about this and that. and there were always the constant calming fans that were on their own plane. true die hard fans that have lived longer than i and seen more than i've seen. and it kind of swayed my way of posting on here. sure you'll see some 3am stupid paragraphs of drunken wisdom i might preach but i've really tried to not get so serious about this game we watch for 16 weeks of our year.

you think there weren't expletives being shouted out of my living that could be heard a mile away yesterday? of course there were and i'd prob get banned from here if i used that language. thing is we CAN'T keep doing the same old thing: ripping apart the org every 2-3 years. there is plenty of blame to go around for these losses but for people to be calling for people's jobs when they are rookies themselves is insane.

negativity gets you nowhere fast, except the grave.

D Bone

@miktoxic said:

you think 'we' apathetic fans are happy when the browns lose?

when i first joined this board i was worse than half of you. bitching and complaining. screaming about this and that. and there were always the constant calming fans that were on their own plane. true die hard fans that have lived longer than i and seen more than i've seen. and it kind of swayed my way of posting on here. sure you'll see some 3am stupid paragraphs of drunken wisdom i might preach but i've really tried to not get so serious about this game we watch for 16 weeks of our year.

you think there weren't expletives being shouted out of my living that could be heard a mile away yesterday? of course there were and i'd prob get banned from here if i used that language. thing is we CAN'T keep doing the same old thing: ripping apart the org every 2-3 years. there is plenty of blame to go around for these losses but for people to be calling for people's jobs when they are rookies themselves is insane.

negativity gets you nowhere fast, except the grave.

^ This ( I always make sure my front door is closed during the game, so my neighbors don't think I have Tourette's )

Mark O

@miktoxic said:

you think 'we' apathetic fans are happy when the browns lose?

when i first joined this board i was worse than half of you. bitching and complaining. screaming about this and that. and there were always the constant calming fans that were on their own plane. true die hard fans that have lived longer than i and seen more than i've seen. and it kind of swayed my way of posting on here. sure you'll see some 3am stupid paragraphs of drunken wisdom i might preach but i've really tried to not get so serious about this game we watch for 16 weeks of our year.

you think there weren't expletives being shouted out of my living that could be heard a mile away yesterday? of course there were and i'd prob get banned from here if i used that language. thing is we CAN'T keep doing the same old thing: ripping apart the org every 2-3 years. there is plenty of blame to go around for these losses but for people to be calling for people's jobs when they are rookies themselves is insane.

negativity gets you nowhere fast, except the grave.

That's me as well....well..except for the expletives being shouted. I've got kids at home and that would be frowned upon to scream them at my television. However, my wife and I were living and dying with every play during the game yesterday.

As Mik said...we just can't keep ripping the organization apart every 2 years (or less). Someone else mentioned the Bengals and Marvin Lewis as an example and it's a good one. Who here wouldn't take the next 10 years of "frustration" the Bengals have had being competitive each year only to lose in the playoffs? Get me the playoffs and then we can worry about winning a fucking playoff game.

The Cysko Kid

Nobody except super trolls walter and Soju mentioned "ripping the team apart"