***Official Browns Vs. Cardinals Game Day Thread***

Tacosman

lets also face the reality that mccown cant stay healthy in games. It is what it is. And that's something to take into account as well. Every single game it seems he is playing banged up. Some of may disagree on just how adequate his 'healthy' performance is, but if he isn't healthy enough that doesn't matter anyways.

Browns1216

poor McCown. He really is giving his all out there, it's just not enough. I'm not a Manziel fan, but it's just not worth risking McCown any more. I feel like he's going to suffer a season-ending injury if he keeps going like this.

Tacosman

but his all goes back to pettine's very short term and 'me' view.....he has it in his head that getting to 7-9 or whatever may, just may, save his job. So he will do whatever he can to protect that....even if it offers little longterm hope for the browns. He would literally blow our franchise up if it meant he gets to stay in the nfl another couple weeks. A desparate nobody nfl coach is not good for franchises....

Richiswhere

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
Funny, but Mccown wants to play. He could take himself out if he wanted to...

36 year old journeyman quarterbacks don't take themselves out of the game

bringbackbrownie2

@richiswhere said:
36 year old journeyman quarterbacks don't take themselves out of the game

This is my point..

BrownsFan4Evr

I can't watch this anymore!

WalterWhite

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Browns1216

well, at least the first half was enjoyable. defense didn't look too terrible. Now if only the Browns could figure out how to play 2 good halves, we'd be in good shape.

Tacosman

guys, the fact that mccown gets the shit beat out of him every week isn't some random thing. It's not even an indictment of the browns offensive line or whatever. It's solely due to the fact that he doesn't know how to move correctly in the pocket, get rid of the ball, slide at the right time, etc....that play when minter popped him good was because he slid too damn late. Like he always does, Like the jets game. Its mostly his fault.

BaconHound

18-34 211 3TDs, let's not blame the QB for this one

BaconHound

No to mention Hartline and Dray couldn't catch a cold

jrb12711

I'm so tired of how damn holding calls gets made on defense.

BrownsFan4Evr

Now just roll over and play dead.

BaconHound

This team is what it is. The sunshine pumpers thought 10-6, realists knew 5-11

Richiswhere

@baconhound said:
18-34 211 3TDs, let's not blame the QB for this one

How many points did he put up in the 2nd half?

BaconHound

@richiswhere said:
How many points did he put up in the 2nd half?

The TEAM stinks but the blame isn't on Mccown

Tacosman

oh no the blame is never on mccown. Mccown has been a loser every single place he has been again and again and again.....but hes never the least bit responsible. just a total coincidence that in 5 or so different teams he has managed to accumulate one of the worst w-l records in the history of the nfl amongst qbs with that many starts.

Richiswhere

@baconhound said:
The TEAM stinks but the blame isn't on Mccown

I didn't ask about the team I asked how many point he put up in the 2nd half is all. That's not that hard of a question.

Canton Dawg

@tacosman said:
oh no the blame is never on mccown. Mccown has been a loser every single place he has been again and again and again.....but hes never the least bit responsible. just a total coincidence that in 5 or so different teams he has managed to accumulate one of the worst w-l records in the history of the nfl amongst qbs with that many starts.

Great job by your boyfriend, how many points did he put up?

Browns1216

not blaming McCown, blaming poor schemes (especially trying to run it up the middle on nearly every first down play), inability to adjust to what other teams are doing, stupid penalties and turnovers : (