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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #42

    Gipper has a habit of talking about something like he's an expert without knowing much about it. This wouldn't be the first example.

    I can tell you the B1G definitely does not want to be the SEC though. Obviously not academically, not at all. Sure the football success would be nice, but through other means than how the SEC got it.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    Gipper has a habit of talking about something like he's an expert without knowing much about it. This wouldn't be the first example.

    I can tell you the B1G definitely does not want to be the SEC though. Obviously not academically, not at all. Sure the football success would be nice, but through other means than how the SEC got it.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #43

    @mld-woody said:

    Gipper has a habit of talking about something like he's an expert without knowing much about it. This wouldn't be the first example.

    On the rare occasion....but then on most occasins I talk about things that I know about that all y'all have no clue about.

    I can tell you the B1G definitely does not want to be the SEC though. Obviously not academically, not at all. Sure the football success would be nice, but through other means than how the SEC got it.

    Its the other way around.

    The Big Ten has the money and the teams in the largest markets in the USA....New York, Chicago, Philly, Washington/Baltimore., Detroit....CLeve/Columbus/Cincy....Twin Cities.

    The SEC has one big market: Atlanta.

    So, the Big Ten has the money and the demographics. And the Big Ten has the National Championship......and it has teams every bit as good as any of the teams in the SEC.

    And that is just football. Basketball wise, the SEC has Kentucky and then nada. The Big Ten has half a dozen major basketball programs.

  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #44

    Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

    The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.

    Even the big bowl games are played in the south.

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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  • Browns149B Browns149

    Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

    The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.

    Even the big bowl games are played in the south.

    AxeA Axe wrote on
    #45

    @browns149 said:

    Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

    Have you seen Arkansas play lately? or at all? They are playing some of the best ball in the country right now.. They possess the largest O line in football, be it college or the NFL.

    The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.

    Why the fuck should they? Given the taxing SEC schedule.. Seriously??

    Even the big bowl games are played in the south.

    Have you ever given a second's thought as to why that is? facepalm.gif

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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #46

    because people from the south are pansies that can't handle a little snow...

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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  • W wargograw wrote on
    #47

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.

    LogicIsForSquaresL MLD WoodyM The GipperT 3 Replies
  • W wargograw

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #48

    @wargograw said:

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Yes they did play north of Lexington in an indoor stadium.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #49

    Yeah it would have been much manlier to play outside in New York in September. Oh, what horrid conditions could arise.

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  • W wargograw

    Yeah it would have been much manlier to play outside in New York in September. Oh, what horrid conditions could arise.

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #50

    @wargograw said:

    Yeah it would have been much manlier to play outside in New York in September. Oh, what horrid conditions could arise.

    I am not fighting either way. But just stating that it is an indoor stadium. It just reconfirms what some people here are saying.

    Also, you can get shit weather conditions in northern NY starting in September. Unfortunately, I have had to experience it.

  • W wargograw

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #51

    @wargograw said:

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.

    This is because the SEC signed their TV contract more recently. When the B1G resigns, it will be higher.

    (unless the giant swing of people moving away from cable and ESPN taking hits rolls over into these TV contracts because no network wants to take that big of a liability)

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • W wargograw wrote on
    #52

    When did the B1G sign? It was after their expansion right?

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #53

    Here is some more info:

    http://lostlettermen.com/will-fox-steal-big-10-from-espn/

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-sherman-media-big-ten-spt-0312-20150311-column.html

    The league's football and basketball deals with ESPN/ABC and CBS expire after the 2016-17 basketball season. Negotiations are expected to heat up soon, assuming they haven't already.

    One thing is certain: The Big Ten should be in line for a windfall. The conference will get significant increases from its 10-year, $1 billion deal with ESPN/ABC for football and basketball and 6-year, $72 million pact with CBS for basketball; It also has a 25-year, $2.8 billion deal with the league-run BTN that extends through 2031-32.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #54

    The only risk here is if Fox or ESPN don't want to pay a massive contract because of the poor decisions made at ESPN. In that case, the B1G will be the first conference to get a "smaller" TV contract.

    The B1G has a lot of major TV markets. It also has Alumni across the entire US. Those that live in SEC country may only have college football (for the most part), but the SEC love doesn't exist outside of the corner of the country. Michigan and OSU fans exist everywhere in the country. LSU and Bama fans do not

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • AxeA Axe

    @browns149 said:

    Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

    Have you seen Arkansas play lately? or at all? They are playing some of the best ball in the country right now.. They possess the largest O line in football, be it college or the NFL.

    The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.

    Why the fuck should they? Given the taxing SEC schedule.. Seriously??

    Even the big bowl games are played in the south.

    Have you ever given a second's thought as to why that is? facepalm.gif

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #55

    @axe said:

    @browns149 said:

    Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!

    Have you seen Arkansas play lately? or at all? They are playing some of the best ball in the country right now.. They possess the largest O line in football, be it college or the NFL.

    The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.

    Why the fuck should they? Given the taxing SEC schedule.. Seriously??

    What taxing SEC schedule?

    THAT is where the myth lies. You SEC guys all act like dogs going around in a circle sniffing each other's butts telling yourselves how sweet smelling you all are, where in reality you are just a pile of dog shit.

    Even the big bowl games are played in the south.

    Have you ever given a second's thought as to why that is? facepalm.gif

    Warmer weather. That's it. Understandable.

  • W wargograw

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #56

    @wargograw said:

    Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.

    Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.

    Perhaps a higher percentage of people in the south watch college football (more of the areas....unlike the Big Ten, do not have an NFL team in their markets)......but more people watch the Big Ten.

    There is no day in the foreseeable future that I would trade the Big Ten's market area for the SEC's.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

    The only risk here is if Fox or ESPN don't want to pay a massive contract because of the poor decisions made at ESPN. In that case, the B1G will be the first conference to get a "smaller" TV contract.

    The B1G has a lot of major TV markets. It also has Alumni across the entire US. Those that live in SEC country may only have college football (for the most part), but the SEC love doesn't exist outside of the corner of the country. Michigan and OSU fans exist everywhere in the country. LSU and Bama fans do not

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #57

    @mld-woody said:

    The only risk here is if Fox or ESPN don't want to pay a massive contract because of the poor decisions made at ESPN. In that case, the B1G will be the first conference to get a "smaller" TV contract.

    The B1G has a lot of major TV markets. It also has Alumni across the entire US. Those that live in SEC country may only have college football (for the most part), but the SEC love doesn't exist outside of the corner of the country. Michigan and OSU fans exist everywhere in the country. LSU and Bama fans do not

    Big Ten school enrollment: 579,469 combined undergrad and grad

    SEC school enrollment: 385,738 also UG and grad combined.

    SEC grads probably are more likely to stay home in SEC states, same with Big Ten.

    Though....Florida, with its snowbird population from Big Ten states, may come close to having more Big Ten than SEC alum there. Just speculatinig

  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #58

    According to the Tv ratings for last Saturday. The OSU vs MSU. Was the highest rated college game since OSU vs VA TECH. It beat EVERY SEC game this year

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #59

    Instead of scheduling a D2 school in November EVERY year. Why doesn't the SEC play other SEC teams. They basically give themselves a bye week

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • Browns149B Browns149

    Instead of scheduling a D2 school in November EVERY year. Why doesn't the SEC play other SEC teams. They basically give themselves a bye week

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #60

    @browns149 said:

    Instead of scheduling a D2 school in November EVERY year. Why doesn't the SEC play other SEC teams. They basically give themselves a bye week

    I suppose they say that they play conference games early in the season when the rest of the P5 are taking on their set of cupcakes. I would have to check the schedules, but that is possible.

  • W wargograw wrote on
    #61

    That's the case Gipper. People seem to have made a huge deal about this this year when in the past not many folks cared. Not sure why. Personally, I very much appreciate the early conference games. I remember when the real CFB season basically didn't start until October because September non-cons were by and large a complete snooze fest.

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