Talk To Your Kids About the SEC Myth
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Yeah it would have been much manlier to play outside in New York in September. Oh, what horrid conditions could arise.
Yeah it would have been much manlier to play outside in New York in September. Oh, what horrid conditions could arise.
I am not fighting either way. But just stating that it is an indoor stadium. It just reconfirms what some people here are saying.
Also, you can get shit weather conditions in northern NY starting in September. Unfortunately, I have had to experience it.
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Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.
Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.
Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.
Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.
This is because the SEC signed their TV contract more recently. When the B1G resigns, it will be higher.
(unless the giant swing of people moving away from cable and ESPN taking hits rolls over into these TV contracts because no network wants to take that big of a liability)
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When did the B1G sign? It was after their expansion right?
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Here is some more info:
http://lostlettermen.com/will-fox-steal-big-10-from-espn/
The league's football and basketball deals with ESPN/ABC and CBS expire after the 2016-17 basketball season. Negotiations are expected to heat up soon, assuming they haven't already.
One thing is certain: The Big Ten should be in line for a windfall. The conference will get significant increases from its 10-year, $1 billion deal with ESPN/ABC for football and basketball and 6-year, $72 million pact with CBS for basketball; It also has a 25-year, $2.8 billion deal with the league-run BTN that extends through 2031-32.
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The only risk here is if Fox or ESPN don't want to pay a massive contract because of the poor decisions made at ESPN. In that case, the B1G will be the first conference to get a "smaller" TV contract.
The B1G has a lot of major TV markets. It also has Alumni across the entire US. Those that live in SEC country may only have college football (for the most part), but the SEC love doesn't exist outside of the corner of the country. Michigan and OSU fans exist everywhere in the country. LSU and Bama fans do not
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Have you seen Arkansas play lately? or at all? They are playing some of the best ball in the country right now.. They possess the largest O line in football, be it college or the NFL.
The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.
Why the fuck should they? Given the taxing SEC schedule.. Seriously??
Even the big bowl games are played in the south.
Have you ever given a second's thought as to why that is? facepalm.gif
Arkansas PLEASE!!!!!!!!!
Have you seen Arkansas play lately? or at all? They are playing some of the best ball in the country right now.. They possess the largest O line in football, be it college or the NFL.
The next time an SEC school comes north of Lexington to play, let us know.
Why the fuck should they? Given the taxing SEC schedule.. Seriously??
What taxing SEC schedule?
THAT is where the myth lies. You SEC guys all act like dogs going around in a circle sniffing each other's butts telling yourselves how sweet smelling you all are, where in reality you are just a pile of dog shit.
Even the big bowl games are played in the south.
Have you ever given a second's thought as to why that is? facepalm.gif
Warmer weather. That's it. Understandable.
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Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.
Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.
Browns149, LSU went to the Carrier Dome. Good job knowing the facts though.
Gipper, having the largest markets doesn't mean the people there actually watch CFB. The SEC has the largest TV contract both in total and in per school, I believe. So all those markets are fairly worthless in comparison.
Perhaps a higher percentage of people in the south watch college football (more of the areas....unlike the Big Ten, do not have an NFL team in their markets)......but more people watch the Big Ten.
There is no day in the foreseeable future that I would trade the Big Ten's market area for the SEC's.
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The only risk here is if Fox or ESPN don't want to pay a massive contract because of the poor decisions made at ESPN. In that case, the B1G will be the first conference to get a "smaller" TV contract.
The B1G has a lot of major TV markets. It also has Alumni across the entire US. Those that live in SEC country may only have college football (for the most part), but the SEC love doesn't exist outside of the corner of the country. Michigan and OSU fans exist everywhere in the country. LSU and Bama fans do not
The only risk here is if Fox or ESPN don't want to pay a massive contract because of the poor decisions made at ESPN. In that case, the B1G will be the first conference to get a "smaller" TV contract.
The B1G has a lot of major TV markets. It also has Alumni across the entire US. Those that live in SEC country may only have college football (for the most part), but the SEC love doesn't exist outside of the corner of the country. Michigan and OSU fans exist everywhere in the country. LSU and Bama fans do not
Big Ten school enrollment: 579,469 combined undergrad and grad
SEC school enrollment: 385,738 also UG and grad combined.
SEC grads probably are more likely to stay home in SEC states, same with Big Ten.
Though....Florida, with its snowbird population from Big Ten states, may come close to having more Big Ten than SEC alum there. Just speculatinig
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According to the Tv ratings for last Saturday. The OSU vs MSU. Was the highest rated college game since OSU vs VA TECH. It beat EVERY SEC game this year
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Instead of scheduling a D2 school in November EVERY year. Why doesn't the SEC play other SEC teams. They basically give themselves a bye week
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Instead of scheduling a D2 school in November EVERY year. Why doesn't the SEC play other SEC teams. They basically give themselves a bye week
Instead of scheduling a D2 school in November EVERY year. Why doesn't the SEC play other SEC teams. They basically give themselves a bye week
I suppose they say that they play conference games early in the season when the rest of the P5 are taking on their set of cupcakes. I would have to check the schedules, but that is possible.
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That's the case Gipper. People seem to have made a huge deal about this this year when in the past not many folks cared. Not sure why. Personally, I very much appreciate the early conference games. I remember when the real CFB season basically didn't start until October because September non-cons were by and large a complete snooze fest.
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It's actually very smart.
1) it gives SEC teams basically a bye before many play their big OOC rival
2) it helps to remove the chances of a bad OOC loss early in the year, thus preserving inflated rankings
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I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.
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I never said they were
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I don't know man, it's pretty strongly implied. Why would you want to lessen the risk of a bad OOC loss early in the year only for there to be an equal opportunity to get one late in the year? If anything, you'd rather have it early in the year.
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It preserves the inflated rankings SEC teams get each preseason. Then, when SEC team play each other, those games "look better". Wins look better because it was against a ranked opponent, losses look better because it was against a ranked opponent.
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If we stipulate that all 14 SEC teams schedule 4 cupcakes each every year, and they basically never lose those games, then that makes no sense. Whether you played all 4 in September or 3 in September and 1 later, you would still be beating all 4. Your ranking would still be "inflated," as you say. So let's say Auburn is ranked #5 and in reality they're a top 20-25 team (this is all hypothetical).
Scenario 1:
Week 1-cupcake 1 (still #5)
Week 2-cupcake 2 (still #5)
Week 3-cupcake 3 (still #5)
Week 4-cupcake 4 (still #5)
Week 5-#18 Mississippi State (who's also 4-0, beating 4 cupcakes), win (still #5)
Scenario 2:
Week 1-cupcake 1 (still #5)
Week 2-#18 Mississippi State, win (still #5)
Week 3-cupcake 2 (still #5)
Week 4-cupcake 3 (still #5)
Week 5-#10 LSU (also 4-0, beating 3 cupcakes plus #12 Florida), win (still #5)
The scenario is the exact same (obviously the #5 ranking will fluctuate some as surrounding teams win and lose and/or do either (un)convincingly). The placement of the cupcakes does nothing to contribute to inflated rankings if they're going to be wins regardless. The ONLY reason they do it this way is to get more exciting television in September when the situation is ripe.
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To be honest, Alabama has no business playing against 'Charlston Southern' whoever the fuck they are. 7 TDs in the first half says as much as you need to know about that. Or Louisiana-munroe, or any of those no-name schools. Same goes for basically every team that's trying to win the championship. They're basically exhibition games and are pointless.
Schedule games against competitive teams so that the 'objective' playoff rankings actually mean something and are based on something besides "well OSU only scored 8 TDs this week and Alabama scored 9, so we're swapping them round"
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I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.
I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.
Well, sure, when your out of conference game is a cupcake.
The thing is though.....Alabama, unlike Florida with FSU, Georgia with Ga. Tech. South Carolina with Clemson, Kentucky with Louisville and maybe a couple of others, do not have a mandated game against an in state rival.
Their instate rival is in their conference, that situation allows them basically to schedule another OOC cupcake.
TAMU bugged out of their big in state rival game....though it would be nice to see the TU-TAMU game again on Thanksgiving weekend, which used to be a big tradition.
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