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  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #62

    It's actually very smart.

    1) it gives SEC teams basically a bye before many play their big OOC rival

    2) it helps to remove the chances of a bad OOC loss early in the year, thus preserving inflated rankings

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #63

    I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #64

    I never said they were

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #65

    I don't know man, it's pretty strongly implied. Why would you want to lessen the risk of a bad OOC loss early in the year only for there to be an equal opportunity to get one late in the year? If anything, you'd rather have it early in the year.

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #66

    It preserves the inflated rankings SEC teams get each preseason. Then, when SEC team play each other, those games "look better". Wins look better because it was against a ranked opponent, losses look better because it was against a ranked opponent.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by wargograw
    #67

    If we stipulate that all 14 SEC teams schedule 4 cupcakes each every year, and they basically never lose those games, then that makes no sense. Whether you played all 4 in September or 3 in September and 1 later, you would still be beating all 4. Your ranking would still be "inflated," as you say. So let's say Auburn is ranked #5 and in reality they're a top 20-25 team (this is all hypothetical).

    Scenario 1:

    Week 1-cupcake 1 (still #5)

    Week 2-cupcake 2 (still #5)

    Week 3-cupcake 3 (still #5)

    Week 4-cupcake 4 (still #5)

    Week 5-#18 Mississippi State (who's also 4-0, beating 4 cupcakes), win (still #5)

    Scenario 2:

    Week 1-cupcake 1 (still #5)

    Week 2-#18 Mississippi State, win (still #5)

    Week 3-cupcake 2 (still #5)

    Week 4-cupcake 3 (still #5)

    Week 5-#10 LSU (also 4-0, beating 3 cupcakes plus #12 Florida), win (still #5)

    The scenario is the exact same (obviously the #5 ranking will fluctuate some as surrounding teams win and lose and/or do either (un)convincingly). The placement of the cupcakes does nothing to contribute to inflated rankings if they're going to be wins regardless. The ONLY reason they do it this way is to get more exciting television in September when the situation is ripe.

  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
    #68

    To be honest, Alabama has no business playing against 'Charlston Southern' whoever the fuck they are. 7 TDs in the first half says as much as you need to know about that. Or Louisiana-munroe, or any of those no-name schools. Same goes for basically every team that's trying to win the championship. They're basically exhibition games and are pointless.

    Schedule games against competitive teams so that the 'objective' playoff rankings actually mean something and are based on something besides "well OSU only scored 8 TDs this week and Alabama scored 9, so we're swapping them round"

  • I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #69

    @wargograw said:

    I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.

    Well, sure, when your out of conference game is a cupcake.

    The thing is though.....Alabama, unlike Florida with FSU, Georgia with Ga. Tech. South Carolina with Clemson, Kentucky with Louisville and maybe a couple of others, do not have a mandated game against an in state rival.

    Their instate rival is in their conference, that situation allows them basically to schedule another OOC cupcake.

    TAMU bugged out of their big in state rival game....though it would be nice to see the TU-TAMU game again on Thanksgiving weekend, which used to be a big tradition.

  • To be honest, Alabama has no business playing against 'Charlston Southern' whoever the fuck they are. 7 TDs in the first half says as much as you need to know about that. Or Louisiana-munroe, or any of those no-name schools. Same goes for basically every team that's trying to win the championship. They're basically exhibition games and are pointless.

    Schedule games against competitive teams so that the 'objective' playoff rankings actually mean something and are based on something besides "well OSU only scored 8 TDs this week and Alabama scored 9, so we're swapping them round"

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #70

    @gftchris said:

    To be honest, Alabama has no business playing against 'Charlston Southern' whoever the fuck they are. 7 TDs in the first half says as much as you need to know about that. Or Louisiana-munroe, or any of those no-name schools. Same goes for basically every team that's trying to win the championship. They're basically exhibition games and are pointless.

    Schedule games against competitive teams so that the 'objective' playoff rankings actually mean something and are based on something besides "well OSU only scored 8 TDs this week and Alabama scored 9, so we're swapping them round"

    Ohio State played Northern Illinois, Western Michigan and the mighty Rainbow Warriors of Hawaii 3 of the first 4 games, smh

  • @wargograw said:

    I think we saw Saturday that the chances of losing that OOC game are not at all mitigated by it being later in the year.

    Well, sure, when your out of conference game is a cupcake.

    The thing is though.....Alabama, unlike Florida with FSU, Georgia with Ga. Tech. South Carolina with Clemson, Kentucky with Louisville and maybe a couple of others, do not have a mandated game against an in state rival.

    Their instate rival is in their conference, that situation allows them basically to schedule another OOC cupcake.

    TAMU bugged out of their big in state rival game....though it would be nice to see the TU-TAMU game again on Thanksgiving weekend, which used to be a big tradition.

    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
    #71

    @the-gipper said:

    The thing is though.....Alabama, unlike Florida with FSU, Georgia with Ga. Tech. South Carolina with Clemson, Kentucky with Louisville and maybe a couple of others, do not have a mandated game against an in state rival.

    Auburn?? The yearly Iron Bowl?

  • AxeA Axe

    @the-gipper said:

    The thing is though.....Alabama, unlike Florida with FSU, Georgia with Ga. Tech. South Carolina with Clemson, Kentucky with Louisville and maybe a couple of others, do not have a mandated game against an in state rival.

    Auburn?? The yearly Iron Bowl?

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #72

    @axe said:

    Auburn?? The yearly Iron Bowl?

    Read literally the next line he typed up

  • @axe said:

    Auburn?? The yearly Iron Bowl?

    Read literally the next line he typed up

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #73

    @mld-woody said:

    Read literally the next line he typed up

    I did make a mistake in that sentence.....I left something out. I meant to say "Unlike Florida, S. Caro. Georgia, KY......Alabama does not have a statute mandated game against an in state out of conference Power5 opponent.

    Hopefully that clarifies what I meant to say.

    For some states, their big in state rivals are part of their conference: Alabama/Auburn, Mississippi/Miss. St., Tennessee/Vandy

    The Pac 10 in state rivals all also play Saturday: USC/UCLA Wash/WSU Ore/OSU, Ariz/ASU

    It is rivalry week in the Big Ten too. Some are in state: Indiana/Purdue, Illinois/NW, out of state: Iowa/Nebraska....which I consider a pretty good natural rivalry. I am not sure but I think Wisc/Minn.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #74

    Kudos for calling them TU, Gip.

  • @gftchris said:

    To be honest, Alabama has no business playing against 'Charlston Southern' whoever the fuck they are. 7 TDs in the first half says as much as you need to know about that. Or Louisiana-munroe, or any of those no-name schools. Same goes for basically every team that's trying to win the championship. They're basically exhibition games and are pointless.

    Schedule games against competitive teams so that the 'objective' playoff rankings actually mean something and are based on something besides "well OSU only scored 8 TDs this week and Alabama scored 9, so we're swapping them round"

    Ohio State played Northern Illinois, Western Michigan and the mighty Rainbow Warriors of Hawaii 3 of the first 4 games, smh

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #75

    @baconhound said:

    Ohio State played Northern Illinois, Western Michigan and the mighty Rainbow Warriors of Hawaii 3 of the first 4 games, smh

    Those teams are all very much on a higher standard than Charleston Southern. They are all FBS, CSU is FCS.

  • Kudos for calling them TU, Gip.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #76

    @wargograw said:

    Kudos for calling them TU, Gip.

    You mean Texas, Tennessee, or Trinity.

  • @baconhound said:

    Ohio State played Northern Illinois, Western Michigan and the mighty Rainbow Warriors of Hawaii 3 of the first 4 games, smh

    Those teams are all very much on a higher standard than Charleston Southern. They are all FBS, CSU is FCS.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #77

    @the-gipper said:

    Those teams are all very much on a higher standard than Charleston Southern. They are all FBS, CSU is FCS.

    They all stink. Playing The Little Sisters of the Poor as opposed to Rochester School for the Blind isn't a difference

  • AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by Axe
    #78

    The Myth just bitch slapped your conference champion 38-0 😆

    Yeah,, talk to your kids about that shit 😛

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
    #79

    Oh ya, this is the part where all of the teams in the SEC ride Bama's coattails....

  • Oh ya, this is the part where all of the teams in the SEC ride Bama's coattails....

    AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
    #80

    @mld-woody said:

    Oh ya, this is the part where all of the teams in the SEC ride Bama's coattails....

    No,peckerwood,, this is the part where you look like a dumbass (as usual) for starting this thread..

  • Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #81

    Damn, 'Bama looked awfully good last night. I can't stand Saban, but you have to give him credit.