Talk To Your Kids About the SEC Myth
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Bigger and better programs than Michigan have all cheated to win championships. What makes Michigan think they will do so without it other than pure delusion?
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I'm done with you on the supposed corruptness of michigan Gipper. I should have known better. Usually the younger OSU fans are the worst, but it appears you're even more stubborn. You're bringing out tweets that are secondary violations and acting like its a smoking gun. Nothing I post can change that so I won't waste any more of my time. We've gone down this path with academics when you were clearly wrong, and we're about to do it again.
I'm done with you on the supposed corruptness of michigan Gipper. I should have known better. Usually the younger OSU fans are the worst, but it appears you're even more stubborn. You're bringing out tweets that are secondary violations and acting like its a smoking gun. Nothing I post can change that so I won't waste any more of my time. We've gone down this path with academics when you were clearly wrong, and we're about to do it again.
Sure you are done. You can't handle the truth....and you can't handle it when I am clearly right....which I am.
Secondary violations are still violations. Harbaugh has been there a year and already has them on his record.
And I am also right about academics. It is a judgment matter as to which engineering school is better or not.
The kids I know from the Akron U engineering school are doing just as well or better than you at their situations.
That may be a subjective thing.
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He never said anything about mental health. Chest pains from stress I believe.
The most recent interview with him discussed his mental health issues. I thought that's what spurred it.
Either way, it's leading back to a series of fortunate events that got Meyer to OSU. That's my point.
The most recent interview with him discussed his mental health issues. I thought that's what spurred it.
Either way, it's leading back to a series of fortunate events that got Meyer to OSU. That's my point.
Never saw anything about mental health. Stress. But, sure , there may be a lot more to the story. Read this article. It sounds like the situation at Florida had become a zoo. Some probably of Meyer's making (including the fact the he allegedly showed favoritism to star players like Tebow...imagine that. A coach favoring his best talent).
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/inside-rise-fall-urban-meyers-florida-gators/story?id=33828722
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So he lied about a mental health issue?
He never said anything about mental health. Chest pains from stress I believe.
Correct, Meyer like a lot of 24/7 hands on control freak coaches was running head first into a burnout situation which can manifest itself in many ways like chest pains, headaches, never seeing your family, etc. He vowed to correct that as much as possible when the OSU job became available when DC Finkell was going to step aside as HC (not Tress technically).He never said anything about mental health. Chest pains from stress I believe.
Finkell was making about $665,000 as a DC back then and didn't want the OSU HC hassles. (from memory)
ALSO I wouldn't want to try to control "some" of these 18-21 year old bad azz discipline problems today at ANY major college athletic department.
......nice lively discussion here though

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"As for TAMU and Arkansas, that game is yet to be played, no? We shall see. If they beat TC..which has been far better in the recent past, they can beat you."
Sunday throwbacks with the Gipper.
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"As for TAMU and Arkansas, that game is yet to be played, no? We shall see. If they beat TC..which has been far better in the recent past, they can beat you."
Sunday throwbacks with the Gipper.
"As for TAMU and Arkansas, that game is yet to be played, no? We shall see. If they beat TC..which has been far better in the recent past, they can beat you."
Sunday throwbacks with the Gipper.
You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
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"As for TAMU and Arkansas, that game is yet to be played, no? We shall see. If they beat TC..which has been far better in the recent past, they can beat you."
Sunday throwbacks with the Gipper.
You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
I am the smartest guy you will ever run into. Just remember, if you don't follow my lead, you are stupid and wrong.
(sounds a bit Trumpian, I know)

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You have the best words
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You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
I am the smartest guy you will ever run into. Just remember, if you don't follow my lead, you are stupid and wrong.
(sounds a bit Trumpian, I know)

I am the smartest guy you will ever run into. Just remember, if you don't follow my lead, you are stupid and wrong.
(sounds a bit Trumpian, I know)

Trumpian? Is that really a word?

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I am the smartest guy you will ever run into. Just remember, if you don't follow my lead, you are stupid and wrong.
(sounds a bit Trumpian, I know)

Trumpian? Is that really a word?

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"As for TAMU and Arkansas, that game is yet to be played, no? We shall see. If they beat TC..which has been far better in the recent past, they can beat you."
Sunday throwbacks with the Gipper.
You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
I don't it's just funny seeing just how far offf he can be.
A&M and Stanford are the only two teams in the country with three P5 wins. A&M's opponents are 7-5 with all five losses coming to top 10 teams. So what's your reasoning? "They started 5-0 the last two years and struggle during down the stretch so of course it will happen again." Some elementary analysis like that I'm guessing?
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You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
I don't it's just funny seeing just how far offf he can be.
A&M and Stanford are the only two teams in the country with three P5 wins. A&M's opponents are 7-5 with all five losses coming to top 10 teams. So what's your reasoning? "They started 5-0 the last two years and struggle during down the stretch so of course it will happen again." Some elementary analysis like that I'm guessing?
I don't it's just funny seeing just how far offf he can be.
I am not OFF at all. Here is what I said:
As for TAMU and Arkansas, that game is yet to be played, no? We shall see. If they beat TC..which has been far better in the recent past, they can beat you."
Everything about that is spot on: Arkansas beat TCU. TCU has been like a Top 5 ranked team the past few years. A&M has not been. And we did have to wait and see how that game would go. So, now the game has been played and we have a much better take on how good tamu is....and it seems to be very good. What is wrong with taking an approach like that? Tamu for the past several years has been barely a Top 25 team....so there should never have been any absolute confidence in them. Its not like they were Alabama or Ohio St.
So, my wait and see approach ABSOLUTELY was right.
A&M and Stanford are the only two teams in the country with three P5 wins. A&M's opponents are 7-5 with all five losses coming to top 10 teams. So what's your reasoning? "They started 5-0 the last two years and struggle during down the stretch so of course it will happen again." Some elementary analysis like that I'm guessing?
Are you talking to me? If so.....even that analysis could be dead on. They have some goods wins thus far....but they still have Alabama, Ole Miss, LSU, Miss St. yet to go.
Good for you if you beat all of them. I hope you do. Fuck a bunch of Alabama (or as I refer to them: East Germany), and LSU fires their national championship winning coach? They deserve nothing but second tier status after that. And though I like Chad Kelly, I don't give a rat's ass about those Mississippi teams otherwise.
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Pretty much anyone that pays attention knows TCU is average this year, at least by their standards, and that Arkansas is far worse than A&M. They suck. If we played 10x, we'd win 10. Very few people though they "could beat" us.
The next part was for Woody (who I was responding to).
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Pretty much anyone that pays attention knows TCU is average this year, at least by their standards, and that Arkansas is far worse than A&M. They suck. If we played 10x, we'd win 10. Very few people though they "could beat" us.
The next part was for Woody (who I was responding to).
Pretty much anyone that pays attention knows TCU is average this year, at least by their standards, and that Arkansas is far worse than A&M. They suck. If we played 10x, we'd win 10. Very few people though they "could beat" us.
The next part was for Woody (who I was responding to).
I don't pay that much attention. I know that TCU lost to Arkansas...and that Arkansas lost to A&M....but those are only conclusions that can be reached at this point after having seen them play.
There may not have been a lot of people that thought that Louisville could beat FSU...but now we do. You don't "know" things until they happen.
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You should know better than to think Gipper has any idea what he is talking about.
Though I still don't really think the aggies are good
I don't it's just funny seeing just how far offf he can be.
A&M and Stanford are the only two teams in the country with three P5 wins. A&M's opponents are 7-5 with all five losses coming to top 10 teams. So what's your reasoning? "They started 5-0 the last two years and struggle during down the stretch so of course it will happen again." Some elementary analysis like that I'm guessing?
I don't it's just funny seeing just how far offf he can be.
A&M and Stanford are the only two teams in the country with three P5 wins. A&M's opponents are 7-5 with all five losses coming to top 10 teams. So what's your reasoning? "They started 5-0 the last two years and struggle during down the stretch so of course it will happen again." Some elementary analysis like that I'm guessing?
"only team with 3 P5 wins" is kind of a meaningless stat. A lot of teams haven't even had that opportunity. That's just how your schedule is set up.
But you're right. You didn't finish strong before and I'm not sure what's changed.
I don't think they're a CFP team. Anything else is really irrelevant. We'll know more over the next few weeks for A&M. I hope they take down Bama though.
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Uhh, the dbag QBs have been replaced by a really strong leader (and adequate on the field QB). Lack of team chemistry is the primary reason for the breakdown the last two years so there you go. The next big reason was youth on defense. We returned all but two starters on defense and there are probably about 5 first-two-day draft picks on it at least. Second year under a new DC (who is elite). New offensive coordinator who's not 15 years old and actually has some gravitas. New OL coach who is elite. I could go on. A better question is what hasn't changed. Most people don't watch much CFB outside of their own team. If you're one, that's ok.
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I follow CFB pretty closely. My team, then rivals, then conference teams, then big name teams. I admittedly don't know a ton about A&M outside of all of the QBs that have left, your great defenders, and your desire to latch onto everything SEC.
We'll see what happens over the next few weeks. I just don't see them making much noise. I could be wrong. I'll be rooting for them to beat Bama
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Uhh, the dbag QBs have been replaced by a really strong leader (and adequate on the field QB). Lack of team chemistry is the primary reason for the breakdown the last two years so there you go. The next big reason was youth on defense. We returned all but two starters on defense and there are probably about 5 first-two-day draft picks on it at least. Second year under a new DC (who is elite). New offensive coordinator who's not 15 years old and actually has some gravitas. New OL coach who is elite. I could go on. A better question is what hasn't changed. Most people don't watch much CFB outside of their own team. If you're one, that's ok.
Uhh, the dbag QBs have been replaced by a really strong leader (and adequate on the field QB). Lack of team chemistry is the primary reason for the breakdown the last two years so there you go. The next big reason was youth on defense. We returned all but two starters on defense and there are probably about 5 first-two-day draft picks on it at least. Second year under a new DC (who is elite). New offensive coordinator who's not 15 years old and actually has some gravitas. New OL coach who is elite. I could go on. A better question is what hasn't changed. Most people don't watch much CFB outside of their own team. If you're one, that's ok.
Two first day draft picks means first rounders. You have Garrett....who else on that defense is 1st round worthy.
Interested because with Philly playing so well it seems that the Browns draft pick from them could come much later than we had hoped.
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Uhh, the dbag QBs have been replaced by a really strong leader (and adequate on the field QB). Lack of team chemistry is the primary reason for the breakdown the last two years so there you go. The next big reason was youth on defense. We returned all but two starters on defense and there are probably about 5 first-two-day draft picks on it at least. Second year under a new DC (who is elite). New offensive coordinator who's not 15 years old and actually has some gravitas. New OL coach who is elite. I could go on. A better question is what hasn't changed. Most people don't watch much CFB outside of their own team. If you're one, that's ok.
Two first day draft picks means first rounders. You have Garrett....who else on that defense is 1st round worthy.
Interested because with Philly playing so well it seems that the Browns draft pick from them could come much later than we had hoped.
I guess they won't be as many from The OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY selection of candidates this year as not that many will be Seniors or ready to come out early as underclassmen.Two first day draft picks means first rounders. You have Garrett....who else on that defense is 1st round worthy.
Interested because with Philly playing so well it seems that the Browns draft pick from them could come much later than we had hoped.
Actually I don't watch these things as close as I used to do until it gets to between Halloween and Thanksgiving when you see which teams are really Final Four possibilities and which players are really Heisman or first round worthy.....unfortunately whether they come from the elite P5 conferences or not which seems to be a prerequisite.
It's true though that the majority of blue chip players end up on the elite school rosters but it's fun to find those other smaller school gems out there.
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From CBS Sports: While Myles Garrett is ranked as their overall #1 prospect, they don't rate another A&M player as being more than a 3rd or 4th round pick:
Myles Garrett: 1st round #1 overall
Avery Genessey OT: 3-4th round
Daeshon Hill DE: 4th
Speedy Noll WR: 4th-5th
Josh Reynolds WR 5th
Justin Evans SS 6th
Ricky Jones WR 6th
(Just to compare: Ohio State also has 1 first round rated talent, but has 4 2d round rated talents, 2 3rd rounders, and a couple of 6th/7th rounders)
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