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  • In points allowed. It's actually the 2nd worst if you excuse the expansion team defense of 1999.

    1990--28.9 ppg
    1999--27.3 ppg
    2015--27.0 ppg
    2000--26.8 ppg

    1975--26.6 ppg
    2013--25.4 ppg
    1974--24.6 ppg

    Pettine was given the rope to hang himself: all the free agent signings and draft picks he desired to manufacture his "ball hawking" defense, Instead we're served this putrid mess.

    Stats courtesy of kosartoslaughter at OBR

    Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @mddawg said:

    Pettine was given the rope to hang himself: all the free agent signings and draft picks he desired to manufacture his "ball hawking" defense

    Your saying that Pettine drafted all of these guys?

    So what are we paying Farmer for?

  • miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #14

    hey big mouths.

    who says pettine gets fired at the end of the year?

    who says farmer gets fired at the end of the year.

    put your money where your mouth is.

    i bet beer or booze. if you ain't man enough to stand behind your words then say so cuz i'm calling you out. opal, london, MC.......what? what??

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #15

    😁 What's your favorite beer mik? 6 bucks towards however much that buys you that Farmer has seen his last Browns draft. I'll spend my 6 bucks on one bottle of this.

    http://www.totalwine.com/beer/ale/belgian-style-ale/quadrupel/rochefort-10-trappist-ale/p/14387127?s=510&igrules=true

    PS-or double that bet and I'll spoil my son in law with one too. 😛 😛

  • hey big mouths.

    who says pettine gets fired at the end of the year?

    who says farmer gets fired at the end of the year.

    put your money where your mouth is.

    i bet beer or booze. if you ain't man enough to stand behind your words then say so cuz i'm calling you out. opal, london, MC.......what? what??

    TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
    #16

    @miktoxic said:

    hey big mouths.

    who says pettine gets fired at the end of the year?

    who says farmer gets fired at the end of the year.

    put your money where your mouth is.

    i bet beer or booze. if you ain't man enough to stand behind your words then say so cuz i'm calling you out. opal, london, MC.......what? what??

    Farmer must go

    O'Neil must go

    if O'Neil is still here then

    Pettine must go

  • @baconhound said:

    Skrine played better than Tramon.

    If by "played better" you mean get a PI everytime the ball gets thrown his way then yes

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #17

    @columbusking said:

    If by "played better" you mean get a PI everytime the ball gets thrown his way then yes

    Shrine 12 penalties in 2014, Haden 11....hmmmm

  • KvoetheK Kvoethe wrote on last edited by
    #18

    Dungy not looking too bad now....

    The prophecy of Nostradumbass.

  • @columbusking said:

    If by "played better" you mean get a PI everytime the ball gets thrown his way then yes

    Shrine 12 penalties in 2014, Haden 11....hmmmm

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
    #19

    @baconhound said:

    Shrine 12 penalties in 2014, Haden 11....hmmmm

    Actually....Skrine had 17 penalties(most in the league) and Haden had 10....but who's counting?

    Id add, that Haden also covered all the #1 top receivers, while Skrine took the scrubs.......flip those 2 around and Skrine probably has 50 penalties and gives up 50 TD's too.....

  • In points allowed. It's actually the 2nd worst if you excuse the expansion team defense of 1999.

    1990--28.9 ppg
    1999--27.3 ppg
    2015--27.0 ppg
    2000--26.8 ppg

    1975--26.6 ppg
    2013--25.4 ppg
    1974--24.6 ppg

    Pettine was given the rope to hang himself: all the free agent signings and draft picks he desired to manufacture his "ball hawking" defense, Instead we're served this putrid mess.

    Stats courtesy of kosartoslaughter at OBR

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @mddawg said:

    In points allowed. It's actually the 2nd worst if you excuse the expansion team defense of 1999.

    1990--28.9 ppg

    1999--27.3 ppg

    2015--27.0 ppg

    2000--26.8 ppg

    1975--26.6 ppg

    2013--25.4 ppg

    1974--24.6 ppg

    Pettine was given the rope to hang himself: all the free agent signings and draft picks he desired to manufacture his "ball hawking" defense, Instead we're served this putrid mess.

    Stats courtesy of kosartoslaughter at OBR

    And my belief is that he in fact has overall good personell on this defense. It is piss poor utilization of that personnell.

  • hey big mouths.

    who says pettine gets fired at the end of the year?

    who says farmer gets fired at the end of the year.

    put your money where your mouth is.

    i bet beer or booze. if you ain't man enough to stand behind your words then say so cuz i'm calling you out. opal, london, MC.......what? what??

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @miktoxic said:

    hey big mouths.

    who says pettine gets fired at the end of the year?

    who says farmer gets fired at the end of the year.

    put your money where your mouth is.

    i bet beer or booze. if you ain't man enough to stand behind your words then say so cuz i'm calling you out. opal, london, MC.......what? what??

    I am not sure he is saying they will get fired.....he is saying they should get fired. Big difference.

  • @baconhound said:

    Shrine 12 penalties in 2014, Haden 11....hmmmm

    Actually....Skrine had 17 penalties(most in the league) and Haden had 10....but who's counting?

    Id add, that Haden also covered all the #1 top receivers, while Skrine took the scrubs.......flip those 2 around and Skrine probably has 50 penalties and gives up 50 TD's too.....

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #22

    @mudfly said:

    Actually....Skrine had 17 penalties(most in the league) and Haden had 10....but who's counting?

    Id add, that Haden also covered all the #1 top receivers, while Skrine took the scrubs.......flip those 2 around and Skrine probably has 50 penalties and gives up 50 TD's too.....

    Sorry Pro Football Reference has 12 accepted on Skrine 9 accepted on Haden. But that was probably coach's fault too.

  • @mudfly said:

    Actually....Skrine had 17 penalties(most in the league) and Haden had 10....but who's counting?

    Id add, that Haden also covered all the #1 top receivers, while Skrine took the scrubs.......flip those 2 around and Skrine probably has 50 penalties and gives up 50 TD's too.....

    Sorry Pro Football Reference has 12 accepted on Skrine 9 accepted on Haden. But that was probably coach's fault too.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
    #23

    @baconhound said:

    Sorry Pro Football Reference has 12 accepted on Skrine 9 accepted on Haden. But that was probably coach's fault too.

    Well your #'s are still wrong...but I dont care about "accepted"(talk about twisting stats) ....But Ill correct it...

    Skrine was flagged 17 times.....that means he committed 17 fouls.....Haden only 10....better?

    And I think it's hilarious that you use a spec from PFF, when you are all over this board ripping everyone who uses it and saying its worthless....

    Way to go!

  • @miktoxic said:

    hey big mouths.

    who says pettine gets fired at the end of the year?

    who says farmer gets fired at the end of the year.

    put your money where your mouth is.

    i bet beer or booze. if you ain't man enough to stand behind your words then say so cuz i'm calling you out. opal, london, MC.......what? what??

    Farmer must go

    O'Neil must go

    if O'Neil is still here then

    Pettine must go

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @topdawg31 said:

    Farmer must go

    O'Neil must go

    if O'Neil is still here then

    Pettine must go

    so a bet yes or no?

  • @baconhound said:

    Sorry Pro Football Reference has 12 accepted on Skrine 9 accepted on Haden. But that was probably coach's fault too.

    Well your #'s are still wrong...but I dont care about "accepted"(talk about twisting stats) ....But Ill correct it...

    Skrine was flagged 17 times.....that means he committed 17 fouls.....Haden only 10....better?

    And I think it's hilarious that you use a spec from PFF, when you are all over this board ripping everyone who uses it and saying its worthless....

    Way to go!

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @mudfly said:

    Well your #'s are still wrong...but I dont care about "accepted"(talk about twisting stats) ....But Ill correct it...

    Skrine was flagged 17 times.....that means he committed 17 fouls.....Haden only 10....better?

    And I think it's hilarious that you use a spec from PFF, when you are all over this board ripping everyone who uses it and saying its worthless....

    Way to go!

    Pro Football Focus = Pro Football Reference okie dokie