Bye Week
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Glad to hear it regarding Pettine and Farmer. But not gonna fire O'Neill? I guess they did show SOME improvement today but cmon.
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Just read on twitter..
Tom Reed @treed1919 4m4 minutes ago
Jimmy Haslam says #Browns to make no changes at bye. "no changes.".
Just read on twitter..
Tom Reed @treed1919 4m4 minutes ago
Jimmy Haslam says #Browns to make no changes at bye. "no changes.".
Well, there we go. No changes, course stayed, same ol' same ol'. 3-14 since the Bungles game last year........... Stay the course, we're sooooo close.
That being said, we are so far away from being a top NFL team and I literally have no idea how to fix it, but changing something major right now would be like throwing a spitball at a meteor. It's too late, and the season is over.
"Next year will be our year"
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just give 'people' more than a year and a half to try and put their vision on the field.
holy christ, if no one EVER had a chance to apply what was laid out to the employer by the person telling them 'it might take 2-3 years to see the improvement' and just being a dumbass and saying "naw, i've seen enough" hit the bricks, i'll continue to pay you and like 20 other guys that i'm going to fire and then i'm going to sit down with somebody that looks a lot like you, says the same thing and then pay him and his 20 guys saying that you'd give them at least 3 years.......
great business acumen.
that type of boss wouldn't last a month on wall street.
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there are no need for changes at the bye. WTF is the point? We're bringing in a whole new coaching staff likely next year, so let's just do it all at once. Not piecemeal.
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there are no need for changes at the bye. WTF is the point? We're bringing in a whole new coaching staff likely next year, so let's just do it all at once. Not piecemeal.
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At least during the bye week we cannot lose but hey I bet we try
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Im happy. We have players pick by what ? 4 GMs? all with different systems. I saw the qb lineup and thought this will be the painfull year. Growing pains, yep it sucks but until we have players all on the same system. And most rookies dont play great their 1st year...2-14 it is and lots of great hands on practice this year.
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just give 'people' more than a year and a half to try and put their vision on the field.
holy christ, if no one EVER had a chance to apply what was laid out to the employer by the person telling them 'it might take 2-3 years to see the improvement' and just being a dumbass and saying "naw, i've seen enough" hit the bricks, i'll continue to pay you and like 20 other guys that i'm going to fire and then i'm going to sit down with somebody that looks a lot like you, says the same thing and then pay him and his 20 guys saying that you'd give them at least 3 years.......
great business acumen.
that type of boss wouldn't last a month on wall street.
just give 'people' more than a year and a half to try and put their vision on the field.
holy christ, if no one EVER had a chance to apply what was laid out to the employer by the person telling them 'it might take 2-3 years to see the improvement' and just being a dumbass and saying "naw, i've seen enough" hit the bricks, i'll continue to pay you and like 20 other guys that i'm going to fire and then i'm going to sit down with somebody that looks a lot like you, says the same thing and then pay him and his 20 guys saying that you'd give them at least 3 years.......
great business acumen.
that type of boss wouldn't last a month on wall street.
Normally I'd agree, but IF we could gain interest from a decent prospective coach, I'd have to fire Pettine right now... Why?
Mishandling Gilbert
Mishandling Bowe
Mishandling the QB situation
His defense has ran itself right into the gutter
His team is playing like garbage... And steadily getting worse...
I hate changing coaches every couple years but he has shown nothing in two years
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just give 'people' more than a year and a half to try and put their vision on the field.
holy christ, if no one EVER had a chance to apply what was laid out to the employer by the person telling them 'it might take 2-3 years to see the improvement' and just being a dumbass and saying "naw, i've seen enough" hit the bricks, i'll continue to pay you and like 20 other guys that i'm going to fire and then i'm going to sit down with somebody that looks a lot like you, says the same thing and then pay him and his 20 guys saying that you'd give them at least 3 years.......
great business acumen.
that type of boss wouldn't last a month on wall street.
Normally I'd agree, but IF we could gain interest from a decent prospective coach, I'd have to fire Pettine right now... Why?
Mishandling Gilbert
Mishandling Bowe
Mishandling the QB situation
His defense has ran itself right into the gutter
His team is playing like garbage... And steadily getting worse...
I hate changing coaches every couple years but he has shown nothing in two years
Normally I'd agree, but IF we could gain interest from a decent prospective coach, I'd have to fire Pettine right now... Why?
Mishandling Gilbert
Mishandling Bowe
Mishandling the QB situation
His defense has ran itself right into the gutter
His team is playing like garbage... And steadily getting worse...
I hate changing coaches every couple years but he has shown nothing in two years
i don't think he has mishandled any player. truly i think he is a hard-headed coach that doesn't bow to pressure and plays who he thinks gives them the best chance to win. the players on your list are stepping on their own dicks. gilbert either doesn't want to be in cleveland or he just wants to get paid and doesn't care. i think he'll find out pretty quickly that that mode of thinking has to be changed. bowe? another washed-up old on the downswing type of FA that the browns are famous for signing.
pettine's downfall this year is he has given up a lot of the decision making/play calling to underlings who are still wet under the ears. but to say he's done nothing when we had the best record last year since '97 is a little off don't you think?
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just give 'people' more than a year and a half to try and put their vision on the field.
holy christ, if no one EVER had a chance to apply what was laid out to the employer by the person telling them 'it might take 2-3 years to see the improvement' and just being a dumbass and saying "naw, i've seen enough" hit the bricks, i'll continue to pay you and like 20 other guys that i'm going to fire and then i'm going to sit down with somebody that looks a lot like you, says the same thing and then pay him and his 20 guys saying that you'd give them at least 3 years.......
great business acumen.
that type of boss wouldn't last a month on wall street.
Normally I'd agree, but IF we could gain interest from a decent prospective coach, I'd have to fire Pettine right now... Why?
Mishandling Gilbert
Mishandling Bowe
Mishandling the QB situation
His defense has ran itself right into the gutter
His team is playing like garbage... And steadily getting worse...
I hate changing coaches every couple years but he has shown nothing in two years
His team is playing like garbage... And steadily getting worse...
I hate changing coaches every couple years but he has shown nothing in two years
Yes, it's getting worse, but remember they were 6-3/7-4 and leading the North last year.
I've said it a lot...simplify the schemes on defense. Quit substituting so many packages, and just line up and play, that's step 1.
Step 2 is figuring out how this damn offensive line can't run block. I just don't understand how they haven't been able to run the ball since the Thurs night game in Cincy last year.
That should be their focus during the BYE. Nothing else.
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Bye week sounds like a good idea... count me in... or maybe "out" is more appropriate.
A few pre-Bye thoughts:
- The oldest source of pain for Browns fans that I can think of is knocking out the opponent's starting QB; today was another instance... albeit a weirder instance than most.
- The run D was better; so of course the attack is now on the D in general, in a game when we were forced to start our JV 2ndary and even that showed decently before flag day started; even saw us generate some pressure.
- I caught Orchard doing some good things today.
- JM played well; I've no doubt he missed a play here and there, but he came back from an unfortunate start to show well. At one point in the 1st half I remarked "I think he's feeling it." I think it was right before Hawk's fumble. I expect to see more of JM and soon, AKA in two weeks. Should be plenty of time to install that read-option...
- Any of the crowd calling for Erving still here?
Excepting AFCN pick maintenance... see y'all after Thanksgiving...
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although a head coaching change won't stop 2-14
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Normally I'd agree, but IF we could gain interest from a decent prospective coach, I'd have to fire Pettine right now... Why?
Mishandling Gilbert
Mishandling Bowe
Mishandling the QB situation
His defense has ran itself right into the gutter
His team is playing like garbage... And steadily getting worse...
I hate changing coaches every couple years but he has shown nothing in two years
i don't think he has mishandled any player. truly i think he is a hard-headed coach that doesn't bow to pressure and plays who he thinks gives them the best chance to win. the players on your list are stepping on their own dicks. gilbert either doesn't want to be in cleveland or he just wants to get paid and doesn't care. i think he'll find out pretty quickly that that mode of thinking has to be changed. bowe? another washed-up old on the downswing type of FA that the browns are famous for signing.
pettine's downfall this year is he has given up a lot of the decision making/play calling to underlings who are still wet under the ears. but to say he's done nothing when we had the best record last year since '97 is a little off don't you think?
First, hard-headed is almost never a good thing. Also, him playing the players that "give him the best chance to win" sure hasn't ended up in many wins...i don't think he has mishandled any player. truly i think he is a hard-headed coach that doesn't bow to pressure and plays who he thinks gives them the best chance to win...
the players on your list are stepping on their own dicks. gilbert either doesn't want to be in cleveland or he just wants to get paid and doesn't care.
bowe? another washed-up old on the downswing type of FA that the browns are famous for signing.
pettine's downfall this year is he has given up a lot of the decision making/play calling to underlings who are still wet under the ears. but to say he's done nothing when we had the best record last year since '97 is a little off don't you think?
Second, all I've seen from Gilbert is great STs play and improved CB play in his few reps last week. How do any of us (fans) know how hard he works?
Third, can Bowe really be that bad that bad that he wouldn't even help us in the redzone. We have exactly 1 redzone target on our active roster without him...
Last, giving up playcalling is his fault AND he's also on pace for our worst record since '99 (which was our worst season EVER)
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This is the funniest comment I have ever seen on this board.
+1
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