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Solid post. Full of original points, easily readable, definitely worthy of its own thread.
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Remind me again how it's Pettine's fault that the Browns have the highest paid defense and drafted terrible defensive players early in the draft? Ray Farmer? Is that you?
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Remind me again how it's Pettine's fault that the Browns have the highest paid defense and drafted terrible defensive players early in the draft? Ray Farmer? Is that you?
Who are these terrible early round defensive players?Remind me again how it's Pettine's fault that the Browns have the highest paid defense and drafted terrible defensive players early in the draft? Ray Farmer? Is that you?
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Who are these terrible early round defensive players?Remind me again how it's Pettine's fault that the Browns have the highest paid defense and drafted terrible defensive players early in the draft? Ray Farmer? Is that you?
Who are these terrible early round defensive players?
I was repeating what was said in original post. But Gilbert certainly qualifies..
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I wasn't aware that Pettine was drafting and negotiating contracts.....damn him.
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Which topic would you like this merged with?
Any of the other piss & moan threads would be ok.
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Which topic would you like this merged with?
Any of the other piss & moan threads would be ok.
Any of the other piss & moan threads would be ok.
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So Farmer gives you the highest paid defense in the league, they suck because of your scheme, but it's somehow Farmer's fault? Ok.
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The piss and moan crowd should be replaced with the everything's coming up roses group. We should never point out the Gilbert Manziel over Kahlil Mack, Evans, Carr, Beckham, Bridgewater, Anthony Barr, Garapolo etc
Let's never criticize how poorly these last two drafts have worked out.
Pettine knows what he's doing but I sure wish he'd tell the players before the game. Maryavis Bryant and Antonio Brown set records last week against us.
This week is an easy winnable game. No Flacco, Steve Smith, Forsett, And the worst pass defense in the league,almost.
The Browns rank 2nd to last in the run game. So McCown will score with Barnidge our only big strong stud receiver.
Monday is an important game for us. We are tied with San Diego and Tennessee at 2-8.
A win could knock us out of the running for a franchise quarterback.
I still think we are,light years away from a contending team. The defense and secondary need overhaul. Wide receiver is a must! Ezekiel Elliot would bring the elite running back to go with receiver.
The last two drafts have really set us backwards.
I just don't see the positives for the rest of the year. We'll be playing a backup who's future in football is winding down. How exciting!
The Browns are years away,from sniffing a playoff hunt.
Unless they get an outstanding QB, Defensive coordinator, running back and wide receiver.
Just don't count on it
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So Farmer gives you the highest paid defense in the league, they suck because of your scheme, but it's somehow Farmer's fault? Ok.
So Farmer gives you the highest paid defense in the league, they suck because of your scheme, but it's somehow Farmer's fault? Ok.
Yes it's his job to hire a defensive coordinator. Scheme has to change.
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Who are these terrible early round defensive players?
I was repeating what was said in original post. But Gilbert certainly qualifies..
I was repeating what was said in original post. But Gilbert certainly qualifies..
Danny Shelton isn't setting the world on fire either
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Remind me again how it's Pettine's fault that the Browns have the highest paid defense and drafted terrible defensive players early in the draft? Ray Farmer? Is that you?
Remind me again how it's Pettine's fault that the Browns have the highest paid defense and drafted terrible defensive players early in the draft? Ray Farmer? Is that you?
Except for Gilbert probably, I do not think that the defensive players drafted here are so bad.....I think they can be quite good.
To me....it is the coaching. Be it O'Neil or Pettine running that defense.
And, to answer your question: O'Neil is still here because, unlike Johnny....he apparently does exactly what he is told to do by Pettine.
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The piss and moan crowd should be replaced with the everything's coming up roses group. We should never point out the Gilbert Manziel over Kahlil Mack, Evans, Carr, Beckham, Bridgewater, Anthony Barr, Garapolo etc
Let's never criticize how poorly these last two drafts have worked out.
Pettine knows what he's doing but I sure wish he'd tell the players before the game. Maryavis Bryant and Antonio Brown set records last week against us.
This week is an easy winnable game. No Flacco, Steve Smith, Forsett, And the worst pass defense in the league,almost.
The Browns rank 2nd to last in the run game. So McCown will score with Barnidge our only big strong stud receiver.
Monday is an important game for us. We are tied with San Diego and Tennessee at 2-8.
A win could knock us out of the running for a franchise quarterback.
I still think we are,light years away from a contending team. The defense and secondary need overhaul. Wide receiver is a must! Ezekiel Elliot would bring the elite running back to go with receiver.
The last two drafts have really set us backwards.
I just don't see the positives for the rest of the year. We'll be playing a backup who's future in football is winding down. How exciting!
The Browns are years away,from sniffing a playoff hunt.
Unless they get an outstanding QB, Defensive coordinator, running back and wide receiver.
Just don't count on it
The piss and moan crowd should be replaced with the everything's coming up roses group. We should never point out the Gilbert Manziel over Kahlil Mack, Evans, Carr, Beckham, Bridgewater, Anthony Barr, Garapolo etc
Let's never criticize how poorly these last two drafts have worked out.
Pettine knows what he's doing but I sure wish he'd tell the players before the game. Maryavis Bryant and Antonio Brown set records last week against us.
This week is an easy winnable game. No Flacco, Steve Smith, Forsett, And the worst pass defense in the league,almost.
The Browns rank 2nd to last in the run game. So McCown will score with Barnidge our only big strong stud receiver.
Monday is an important game for us. We are tied with San Diego and Tennessee at 2-8.
A win could knock us out of the running for a franchise quarterback.
There is NO franchise QB in the forthcoming draft. I am of the opinion that the earliest a QB should be selected is late 1st round.
I still think we are,light years away from a contending team. The defense and secondary need overhaul.
I disagree.....it is the coaching....the DC needs an overhaul....but there is good talent there imo.
Wide receiver is a must! Ezekiel Elliot would bring the elite running back to go with receiver.
The last two drafts have really set us backwards.
I just don't see the positives for the rest of the year. We'll be playing a backup who's future in football is winding down. How exciting!
The Browns are years away,from sniffing a playoff hunt.
Unless they get an outstanding QB, Defensive coordinator, running back and wide receiver.
Agree that is what they need: And proclaim that those can all be had in this offseason
Fire the DC....bring in a good one. Bring in a RB to go with Crow and Duke.....who, to me are both very serviceable. But you want a "Bell Cow"
Fine.
WR....of course Josh Gordon will be back....yes, he will. But, to get another one....absolutely. It is more likely that a top WR could be available early in the draft than a QB.
Just don't count on it
Why not....it can be done: WR in first round, RB in second.
Yes, you have to make the right picks. No more TRs or Vince Mayle's.
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Mike Pettine drunk during bye week
You can no longer make this shit up
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It's an old pic of Pettine & O'Neil.
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It's an old pic of Pettine & O'Neil.
It's an old pic of Pettine & O'Neil.
Doesn't matter so long as it fits Walter's narrative.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's an old pic of Pettine & O'Neil.
Doesn't matter so long as it fits Walter's narrative.
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