please stop with the HC rumor threads...
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And what do you suggest people talk about on here?
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So you get to decide what topics are appropiate for an entire fanbase ?
How about you not selecting topics that disturb you, like the majority of posters here.
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This is getting stupid. Manning, Gruden, ole ballcoach Saban, Mangini, Dungy...did I miss anyone? All of them were sure fire locks to come here within the last week or two. Stop. It's not good for us. It makes being a Browns worse, if that's possible. It's not fun anymore to think about "who could we get here", if they would even want to come here. Who worth a shit is going to come here if we fire Pettine? nobody that's who. Nobody worth a fuck is coming here on a year to year leash.
This is getting stupid. Manning, Gruden, ole ballcoach Saban, Mangini, Dungy...did I miss anyone? All of them were sure fire locks to come here within the last week or two. Stop. It's not good for us. It makes being a Browns worse, if that's possible. It's not fun anymore to think about "who could we get here", if they would even want to come here. Who worth a shit is going to come here if we fire Pettine? nobody that's who. Nobody worth a fuck is coming here on a year to year leash.
Sorry....when a team is as poorly coached as this team has been all year......the rumors will abound.
Nothing you can do to stop it.....so just quit crying over it.
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I supported the decision to fire Chud after only11 months but I later saw where I was wrong. Chud was dealt a horrible hand and not nearly given enough time before being axed. That firing helped poison the well for any new coaching candidate thinking about coming here. We went many weeks before finally replacing Chud with Pettine but that had less to do with doing due diligence and more to do with so many candidates not wanting one of the prized jobs in professional sports to be a head coach of an NFL team. Among other reasons I am sure one reason why candidates would not come to Cleveland was probably thinking they would be fired before given enough time to turn the team around. I would like to see Pettine given one more year. If he cannot turn the club around in 3 years at least he will have been given a fair shot.
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This is getting stupid. Manning, Gruden, ole ballcoach Saban, Mangini, Dungy...did I miss anyone? All of them were sure fire locks to come here within the last week or two. Stop. It's not good for us. It makes being a Browns worse, if that's possible. It's not fun anymore to think about "who could we get here", if they would even want to come here. Who worth a shit is going to come here if we fire Pettine? nobody that's who. Nobody worth a fuck is coming here on a year to year leash.
This is getting stupid. Manning, Gruden, ole ballcoach Saban, Mangini, Dungy...did I miss anyone? All of them were sure fire locks to come here within the last week or two. Stop. It's not good for us. It makes being a Browns worse, if that's possible. It's not fun anymore to think about "who could we get here", if they would even want to come here. Who worth a shit is going to come here if we fire Pettine? nobody that's who. Nobody worth a fuck is coming here on a year to year leash.
You mean when we fire Pettine?
It's Jon Gruden.
Next question.
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This is getting stupid. Manning, Gruden, ole ballcoach Saban, Mangini, Dungy...did I miss anyone? All of them were sure fire locks to come here within the last week or two. Stop. It's not good for us. It makes being a Browns worse, if that's possible. It's not fun anymore to think about "who could we get here", if they would even want to come here. Who worth a shit is going to come here if we fire Pettine? nobody that's who. Nobody worth a fuck is coming here on a year to year leash.
You mean when we fire Pettine?
It's Jon Gruden.
Next question.
You mean when we fire Pettine?
It's Jon Gruden.
Next question.
1) Grudens one of the guys i'd be ok with.
2) so you know he's coming here for a fact? has he been signed and sealed? no? then no sale. I'll accept a name like Gruden to replace Pettine IF AND ONLY IF he's signed on BEFORE we let Pettine go.
Would you, TCPO, want to go through another offseason where we're begging CFL and D2 coaches to come here? If so, uninstall your Browns membership software.
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You mean when we fire Pettine?
It's Jon Gruden.
Next question.
1) Grudens one of the guys i'd be ok with.
2) so you know he's coming here for a fact? has he been signed and sealed? no? then no sale. I'll accept a name like Gruden to replace Pettine IF AND ONLY IF he's signed on BEFORE we let Pettine go.
Would you, TCPO, want to go through another offseason where we're begging CFL and D2 coaches to come here? If so, uninstall your Browns membership software.
1) Grudens one of the guys i'd be ok with.
2) so you know he's coming here for a fact? has he been signed and sealed? no? then no sale. I'll accept a name like Gruden to replace Pettine IF AND ONLY IF he's signed on BEFORE we let Pettine go.
Would you, TCPO, want to go through another offseason where we're begging CFL and D2 coaches to come here? If so, uninstall your Browns membership software.
Signed, sealed, delivered.
Because I can't handle anything else.
I don't think hiring a HC before firing your previous HC is something that's ever happened before, but only in Cleveland...
Would I want to go through another offseason of that? No. But it's better than sticking to a guy who clearly is in over his head just for appearances. I fail to see how that makes me any less of a fan.
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You mean when we fire Pettine?
It's Jon Gruden.
Next question.
1) Grudens one of the guys i'd be ok with.
2) so you know he's coming here for a fact? has he been signed and sealed? no? then no sale. I'll accept a name like Gruden to replace Pettine IF AND ONLY IF he's signed on BEFORE we let Pettine go.
Would you, TCPO, want to go through another offseason where we're begging CFL and D2 coaches to come here? If so, uninstall your Browns membership software.
If so, uninstall your Browns membership software.
Is this some sort of virus? How do I get rid of it?
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If so, uninstall your Browns membership software.
Is this some sort of virus? How do I get rid of it?
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Exactly the type of mindset this organization doesn't need
its the mindset they already have.
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This is getting stupid. Manning, Gruden, ole ballcoach Saban, Mangini, Dungy...did I miss anyone? All of them were sure fire locks to come here within the last week or two. Stop. It's not good for us. It makes being a Browns worse, if that's possible. It's not fun anymore to think about "who could we get here", if they would even want to come here. Who worth a shit is going to come here if we fire Pettine? nobody that's who. Nobody worth a fuck is coming here on a year to year leash.
Sorry....when a team is as poorly coached as this team has been all year......the rumors will abound.
Nothing you can do to stop it.....so just quit crying over it.
And furthermore if it is so obvious that this team sucks because of poor coaching somebody out there with the confidence that he could turn it around might just like the opportunity to do so. Given the proper amount of control of course.Sorry....when a team is as poorly coached as this team has been all year......the rumors will abound.
Nothing you can do to stop it.....so just quit crying over it.
Meaning Bill Parcells might not want to accept what ray farmer picks for him.

(or we can flame each other over which future FedEx delivery man we are going to pick with the number 3 selection)
WSS
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What? Cower is not coming?
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So you get to decide what topics are appropiate for an entire fanbase ?
How about you not selecting topics that disturb you, like the majority of postershere. Warfield
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ditto, exactly.
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I probably wouldn't take this seriously but its from the legendary chatsports.com whose reputation is untarnished and whose journalistic ethics are above reproach.

WSS
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I probably wouldn't take this seriously but its from the legendary chatsports.com whose reputation is untarnished and whose journalistic ethics are above reproach.

WSS
I probably wouldn't take this seriously but its from the legendary chatsports.com whose reputation is untarnished and whose journalistic ethics are above reproach.

WSS
There's a few that are decent on that list...
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if anyone thinks gruden is coming here, stop what you are doing and sign yourself into the nearest mental facility.
i got a CASE of beer that says that ain't happenin.
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if anyone thinks gruden is coming here, stop what you are doing and sign yourself into the nearest mental facility.
i got a CASE of beer that says that ain't happenin.
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I probably wouldn't take this seriously but its from the legendary chatsports.com whose reputation is untarnished and whose journalistic ethics are above reproach.

WSS
I probably wouldn't take this seriously but its from the legendary chatsports.com whose reputation is untarnished and whose journalistic ethics are above reproach.

lol... wasn't going to click, but your tagline got me. I was expecting outlandish nominees... and there were a couple like Kyle "Bullet Point" Shanahan.
But as Mark posted, there were also some good ones headed IMO by Stanford's Shaw. We know the power run game would be back.
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So you get to decide what topics are appropiate for an entire fanbase ?
How about you not selecting topics that disturb you, like the majority of posters here.
So you get to decide what topics are appropiate for an entire fanbase ?
Of course. I thought this went without saying.
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It's almost worth betting just for a free case of beer. It's fantastic odds....
for me yes. just remember the shipping costs from cali
gruden leaving a cushy broadcasting gig? really? people think he is a god of coaching (where if you look at his #'s they really don't mean much considering what was given and what he tried to do on his own) where if he ever came back to coach a team like cleveland his legacy would turn into a pile of dog shit. don't think he'd take that chance to be outed as a big-mouthed know-it-all and given 2 years to prove himself.
yeah odds are on my side.
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