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How much will the fans stand for?

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  • BrownsfaninPaB BrownsfaninPa wrote on
    #1

    Just a thought of how much more will the season ticket buyers,and the die hard core fans of the Browns take? I understand your devotion to this team, buying tickets every year, and going to the games every week. Iam with you in spirit. I live in Phila, and it just embarrasses me to say iam a Browns fan. Will the Browns fans take a stand and stop buying these tickets and just stay home on game day? Its clear that this team of many coaches, and now 2 ownerships have not got the formula to winning? Can anyone explain to me how the Patriots can continue to win week after week, year after year, and this team continues to fail ?

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #2

    Pats win because they have an owner a GM and a coaching staff who know how to do their jobs....we don't ...simple as that

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  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on
    #3

    Browns lose because they cater to a very loud and impatient fanbase and combine that with a Local media group that knows how to push the buttons.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
    flyingfooldougF jrb12711J 2 Replies
  • cdl15C cdl15

    Browns lose because they cater to a very loud and impatient fanbase and combine that with a Local media group that knows how to push the buttons.

    flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #4

    @cdl15 said:

    Browns lose because they cater to a very loud and impatient fanbase and combine that with a Local media group that knows how to push the buttons.

    Very true and I wish otherwise. I would list the media as the main problem. All head hunting and zero common sense. And that's what gets the fan base irate and blood thirsty. Look at every team that has had the same HC 5 plus years...don't bother, they're all strong

  • cdl15C cdl15 wrote on
    #5

    Media was already brewing the Pettine Hate Tonic last year when the browns still had a winning record. Pissed me off.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #6

    Some had him gone when named

  • flyingfooldougF flyingfooldoug wrote on
    #7

    Then they work on making their prediction come true

  • BrownsfaninPaB BrownsfaninPa wrote on
    #8

    I am not there in Cleveland, so I can not hear or see what is being said on a daily basis on local media. But being a fan from a past generation,(1980's), will the fans make a statement and stop purchasing tickets, and stop going to the games , and buying expensive jerseys and merchandise. Why not prove to this team that your dedication and devotion to the team is heart felt, but until this team can put together winning seasons, there will be no tickets purchased, and no merchandise is being bought. Its the only way this team ownership, & partners will put a winning team on the field. The fans need to make a financial statement, and stop hoping for something in a dream. I did. I cheer for the Browns, but I no longer buy items because I don't get the same in return. Maybe the ticket holders should making a real financial judgement for next season. Just think about how much money is being just given to the Browns and all their NFL shop .

    MudflyM Bob806B hoortaH 3 Replies
  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #9

    They pretty much have stopped going to games. You can get two tickets for a bag of peanuts.

    But they'll be sold out opening day 2016

  • BrownsfaninPaB BrownsfaninPa

    I am not there in Cleveland, so I can not hear or see what is being said on a daily basis on local media. But being a fan from a past generation,(1980's), will the fans make a statement and stop purchasing tickets, and stop going to the games , and buying expensive jerseys and merchandise. Why not prove to this team that your dedication and devotion to the team is heart felt, but until this team can put together winning seasons, there will be no tickets purchased, and no merchandise is being bought. Its the only way this team ownership, & partners will put a winning team on the field. The fans need to make a financial statement, and stop hoping for something in a dream. I did. I cheer for the Browns, but I no longer buy items because I don't get the same in return. Maybe the ticket holders should making a real financial judgement for next season. Just think about how much money is being just given to the Browns and all their NFL shop .

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #10

    @brownsfaninpa said:

    . Just think about how much money is being just given to the Browns and all their NFL shop .

    This is old and doesnt work....

    Revenue sharing.......

    Plus....I have an inkling that Haslem KNOWS we arent happy......just a hunch

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @brownsfaninpa said:

    . Just think about how much money is being just given to the Browns and all their NFL shop .

    This is old and doesnt work....

    Revenue sharing.......

    Plus....I have an inkling that Haslem KNOWS we arent happy......just a hunch

    Mark OM Mark O wrote on
    #11

    @mudfly said:

    This is old and doesnt work....

    Revenue sharing.......

    Plus....I have an inkling that Haslem KNOWS we arent happy......just a hunch

    I'm sure he does. And you're right it doesn't work since every team is making a profit because of the huge TV deals.

  • MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #12

    @douche-nozzle said:

    The fanbase goes apeshit if the new organization looks bad in a game or two. They just don't realize that a mess as big as the Browns are going to look bad for a while.

    Hate to agree with the Douche....but he's right.....

    Apeshit is EXACTLY whats happening.....and exactly what we all said, 2 years ago, "wouldnt" happen.....but here we are.....

    Freaking out and swinging at anything that moves.....

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @douche-nozzle said:

    The fanbase goes apeshit if the new organization looks bad in a game or two. They just don't realize that a mess as big as the Browns are going to look bad for a while.

    Hate to agree with the Douche....but he's right.....

    Apeshit is EXACTLY whats happening.....and exactly what we all said, 2 years ago, "wouldnt" happen.....but here we are.....

    Freaking out and swinging at anything that moves.....

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #13

    @mudfly said:

    Hate to agree with the Douche....but he's right.....

    Apeshit is EXACTLY whats happening.....and exactly what we all said, 2 years ago, "wouldnt" happen.....but here we are.....

    Freaking out and swinging at anything that moves.....

    It's all about the progress. Fans would tolerate losing if there were tangible evidence of progress and a coaching staff/FO that seemed competent and in tune with one another. Those things have been absent from this organisation this year.

  • cdl15C cdl15

    Browns lose because they cater to a very loud and impatient fanbase and combine that with a Local media group that knows how to push the buttons.

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #14

    @cdl15 said:

    Browns lose because they cater to a very loud and impatient fanbase and combine that with a Local media group that knows how to push the buttons.

    How do you define patience? We see teams every year go from worst to contention, or below average teams get better. It's pretty damn hard to be patient with an organization when it's literally the worst franchise in professional sports.

    MudflyM 1 Reply
  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #15

    @douche-nozzle said:

    I'm not sure. I watch the fans get giddy every year at draft time and if the Brwns are ever going to fix the mess it will start with a few VERY BORING drafts. I don't think the majority of fans are willing to wait for a real team to materialize.

    You mean like drafting a nose tackle and reserve OLinemen in the first round? Following by a pass rusher, a running back, another defensive lineman? And wrapped up with a couple of full backs and injured corners? Because that's what we just had.

    It's not about the 'flashy' players - we've seen people losing their shit about gary barnidge, who is having a good, not spectacular, breakout season. Same with Benjamin to some degree. If we got a top 10 D that kept us in games, and a solid run game that took the load off of the QB, we could make a lot of progress without flashy but ultimately ineffective picks (how many WRs taken in the first round recently have made their team better?).

    People would be much happier then. Of course, this being sports not everyone will be happy and there'll be people complaining why we're not perfect, but the majority will be happy with progress and unity.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #16

    @douche-nozzle said:

    I'm not sure. I watch the fans get giddy every year at draft time and if the Brwns are ever going to fix the mess it will start with a few VERY BORING drafts. I don't think the majority of fans are willing to wait for a real team to materialize.

    We've had very boring drafts. A DT and OL in the first round in the last one.

    They just haven't been good drafts.

  • jrb12711J jrb12711

    @cdl15 said:

    Browns lose because they cater to a very loud and impatient fanbase and combine that with a Local media group that knows how to push the buttons.

    How do you define patience? We see teams every year go from worst to contention, or below average teams get better. It's pretty damn hard to be patient with an organization when it's literally the worst franchise in professional sports.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on
    #17

    @jrb12711 said:

    . It's pretty damn hard to be patient with an organization when it's literally the worst franchise in professional sports.

    We get that....it is hard....but when you are the WORST team, then its a bigger job than most.....and probably takes longer.....make sense?

    Just because we've been waiting forever, doesnt mean some new guys can just show up and make it better over night....thats not reality...more like just wishful thinking and unrealistic expectations...

    gftChrisG jrb12711J 2 Replies
  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #18

    @douche-nozzle said:

    You can site aspects of the last several drafts that have been boring but when continually drafting a QB in the first round to play on a team who has nothing to help that QB, it really wouldn't matter what QB you drafted. By boring, I mean trading every first round pick for a host of later picks and build a foundation which could do something with a good QB.

    Many here would *love* that. And a few would hate it because they want to draft "the saviour" as high as possible.

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @jrb12711 said:

    . It's pretty damn hard to be patient with an organization when it's literally the worst franchise in professional sports.

    We get that....it is hard....but when you are the WORST team, then its a bigger job than most.....and probably takes longer.....make sense?

    Just because we've been waiting forever, doesnt mean some new guys can just show up and make it better over night....thats not reality...more like just wishful thinking and unrealistic expectations...

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #19

    @mudfly said:

    We get that....it is hard....but when you are the WORST team, then its a bigger job than most.....and probably takes longer.....make sense?

    Just because we've been waiting forever, doesnt mean some new guys can just show up and make it better over night....thats not reality...more like just wishful thinking and unrealistic expectations...

    Worst to first teams recently:

    2014: Texans are in that conversation, and have gone from top pick to leading their (weak) division, not because of Jadevion Clowney, but the overall team.

    2013: Chiefs were top pick in 2013, and went from 2-14 to 10-6 or whatever it was - in spite of their 'franchise' LT, Eric Fisher, being the biggest bust in a long time.

    2012: Colts went from 2-14 to 11-5 by drafting Andrew Luck - but this team was only 2-14 because they had no QB, Peyton Manning got injured and they 'lucked' in to the best QB to declare in a generation.

    MudflyM The GipperT 2 Replies
  • C cuwoohio wrote on
    #20

    Only thing you can do as a season ticket holder is stop being one. I'm giving up 2 seats in section 139 , row 15, seats 11 and 12. If anyone wants them on here, just make an off. My expectations are low, so don't be afraid to offer accordingly.

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