***Official Browns Vs. 49ers Game Day Thread***

Tour2ma

@jrb12711 said:
Honestly that douchebag above would find something wrong with Manziel even if he went 50/50 with 10 TDs. There's no point in even talking about it.

The truth is the truth regardless of the source.

@bringbackbrownie2 said:
Very true. crowell looks like a pro athlete today. I'll wait for verification from Tour, but I suspect Erving's replacement is much better at run blocking...

I may actually grade this week, if I have time. My working theory is that we reverted to more of a power run scheme this week and it produced honest to God holes... near where they were supposed to be.

Tour2ma

@typicalbrowns said:

It's nice seeing the Browns run the ball.

The 49ers are awful, but it's still nice to be dominating a team

@calfoxwc said:

Looked to me like it's the first time the defense was playing

uplifted and energized, and NOT confused with

miscommunications.

I wish that was the case, cal, but no...

I'm more in line with TB...

SF stunk today and we refused to play down to their level.

beare

im not sure if he is the answer but fact is he played a great game today. Far as saying he did it against a bad team well remember we have lost to some bad teams.

TexasAg1969

@tour2ma said:

The truth is the truth regardless of the source.

I may actually grade this week, if I have time. My working theory is that we reverted to more of a power run scheme this week and it produced honest to God holes... near where they were supposed to be.

LOL! I had a chance to see the tape when I got home late yesterday. My first thought was, "Tour's got to grade this!"

They looked far more coordinated than I have seen them this whole year. The same can be said for the whole defense. I don't care that SF is not great, I saw fire, enthusiasm and people giving everything they had to take their part of the responsibility in this full team effort.

Canton Dawg

49ers weigh in on Browns surprise performance. . .

"They were able to do whatever they wanted to do on us". - Ahmad Brooks

http://m.cantonrep.com/article/20151214/SPORTS/151219720

Mudfly

@canton-dawg said:

49ers weigh in on Browns surprise performance. . .

"They were able to do whatever they wanted to do on us". - Ahmad Brooks

http://m.cantonrep.com/article/20151214/SPORTS/151219720

Nice....thats a plus 1 for our coaching staff....

TexasAg1969

@mudfly said:
Nice....thats a plus 1 for our coaching staff....

Yep, lot of praise for the OL as well. And this particular comment about JM gave me deja vu because I said it last year here, "He's dangerous throwing downfield when the receivers do a good job getting open when he starts to scramble." I had said on here that as receivers get used to him extending plays they will begin to find ways to get open. A prime example was the cooperation between JM and Barnidge on a right side scramble when Barnidge got behind the defender and JM pointed for him to continue going longer as he threw him open even more. That is the same chemistry he developed with Evans and bodes well for both in the future. I think he has it with Benjamin as well.

I still agree the first option is to go through all the progressions first and take off when nothing develops. But it's good to see when receivers and QB are on the same scramble page as well when it becomes the last resort. Now if he can just learn to throw it away when that fails as well. Then you have a complete dual threat QB.

Tour2ma

Same chemistry Hoyer developed...

I thought JM had shown "throw it away" progress this year until SF. But lesson reinforced... no harm move along... if ESPN will let us.

I swear the lead "game highlight" in every CLE/SF replay package was that play... usually followed by a scramble run... usually followed by the TD to Barn. One thing did precede the INT, however... "the autograph".

Canton Dawg

@tour2ma said:
My working theory is that we reverted to more of a power run scheme this week and it produced honest to God holes... near where they were supposed to be.

That's what these old bloodshot eyes saw as well.

Tour2ma

@canton-dawg said:
That's what these old bloodshot eyes saw as well.

Now the question is: was the shift SF, game-plan specific or driven by a change in 1 of 5 players?

We'll see Sunday, but I've a feeling it's the former.

Canton Dawg

I have a feeling the change was due to the previous hybrid ZBS scheme wasn't working.

Maybe they should try it against the seachickens.

I'm a firm believer, if its not broke...don't fix it.

Tour2ma

Possibly, but to be clear against SF there may have been a shift in emphasis, but the ZBS was not abandoned. Crow's first long run was an inside ZBS.

Mudfly

Here's a snippet from a Browns article this week.....offers some insight into the run plan......

2. Browns run game ‘evolving’

The Browns passing game has clicked at as high of a level as the team has seen in years, but the running game failed to recapture all that went right early last season. Entering Sunday’s game against the 49ers, Cleveland ranked near the bottom in the NFL in rushing offense and hadn’t cleared 100 yards since Week 6 against the Broncos.

Sunday, of course, was a completely different story. Cleveland had just one rush go for negative yards and finished with the most yards (230) it’s had in years. Both Isaiah Crowell andDuke Johnson Jr. set career highs and the Browns doubled their rushing touchdowns on the season from two to four.

So what changed? Pettine indicated Monday that the Browns’ running scheme has evolved as the year has progressed. The outside zone runs that were a staple of Kyle Shanahan’s offense last season have faded a bit, and the Browns have adjusted.

“We ran some downhill runs where we got double-teams at the point of attack. We had some pull plays where were blocking down and kicking out. We ran a good amount of inside zone where I thought the backs had real good vision. I thought everybody involved in the run game stepped up yesterday and, it was our best effort,” Pettine said. “The results certainly bear that out. I think to be successful running the football in the NFL, you have to have a blend of things schematically. I think outside of your fastball, you need to have some complements.

“I think we realized our fastball anymore is not the outside zone, and I think it has transitioned to more of a downhill-zone with some complementary gap-scheme runs.”

Zombo

^^Last post in a winning Browns official gameday thread ... Sorry, the Johnny thing got me reminiscing for the good old days when we were 3-10 and owned the 49ers.

Zombo

Tour2ma

Zombo said:
^^Last post in a winning Browns official gameday thread ... Sorry, the Johnny thing got me reminiscing for the good old days when we were 3-10 and owned the 49ers.

... and weekly OL grading was still fun...

hoorta

Zombo said:

^^Last post in a winning Browns official gameday thread ... Sorry, the Johnny thing got me reminiscing for the good old days when we were 3-10 and owned the 49ers.

Zombo

Then it's time to bring up an old joke that some may not have heard yet- and it's really true this year.

Scene from Domestic Court, a kid is there, parents are getting divorced.

Judge asks the kid- Do you want to stay with your Dad? Nah- he beats me.

Would you like to stay with your Mom then? Nah, she beats me too.

Well then who would you want to stay with? I want to stay with the Cleveland Browns, because they don't beat anybody. :lol:

calfoxwc

StinkHole

Holy cow. The last browns qb to win a game was Johnny Football.

What were the browns thinking when they let him go??? lol

hoorta

Another thing to think about that 49ers win a "A Long Time Ago, in a Galaxy far Away". If we hadn't beaten the Niners- we could have set the record (passing Tampa Bay) losing out this year.

wargograw

@tour2ma said:

... and weekly OL grading was still fun...

Hadn't you already stopped for the season by this point anyway?