Hartline out for the year

Mudfly

@tour2ma said:

Did not notice that, but since the back an is intended to be a last safeguard against a fumble return a Safety makes more sense than a WR.

I did not, but have a few toes that are registering disagreement...

Not sure when the other play was, but Whitner is actually credited with playing 2 offensive snaps at HB.....maybe right before the half?

gftChris

@tour2ma said:

Did not notice that, but since the back an is intended to be a last safeguard against a fumble return a Safety makes more sense than a WR.

I did not, but have a few toes that are registering disagreement...

I have had one broken collarbone, and more broken fingers and toes than I have, well, fingers and toes.

gftChris

@mudfly said:
Not sure when the other play was, but Whitner is actually credited with playing 2 offensive snaps at HB.....maybe right before the half?

Did we kneel twice?

Mudfly

I think we did going into the half.....have a faint memory of snap, kneel and then walking off with 20 seconds or so left

Westside Steve

@gftchris said:
I have had one broken collarbone, and more broken fingers and toes than I have, well, fingers and toes.

Women in London are fighting back these days?

WSS

gftChris

@westside-steve said:

Women in London are fighting back these days?

WSS

I fell off the table playing with my helter skelter aged about 4. My dad was in the other room, 'watching' me. Mum was not impressed when she came home.

Fingers and toes are usually from soccer, that most rough and tumble of games.

The Gipper

Zombo said:

The gods want Dwayne Bowe.

Hopefully Hawk and Gabe are back next week.

Hartline has been terrific last few weeks.

Z

Are those two back? How do we know?

The Gipper

@canton-dawg said:

A tweet from the Akron native (I can't post pink font from my iPad). . .

@brianhartline

It is truly amazing the amount of support I've received the last 2 hours from Browns fans, Buckeye fans AND Dolphins fans. Thank you all!

Didn't he play HS at North Canton actually?

Westside Steve

@gftchris said:

I fell off the table playing with my helter skelter aged about 4. My dad was in the other room, 'watching' me. Mum was not impressed when she came home.

Fingers and toes are usually from soccer, that most rough and tumble of games.

Ones helter skelter is not a euphemism for ones tallywacker is it?

WSS

Canton Dawg

@the-gipper said:
Didn't he play HS at North Canton actually?

He's a Glenoak kid.

Kvoethe

Add Haden, just put on IR.

gftChris

@westside-steve said:

Ones helter skelter is not a euphemism for ones tallywacker is it?

WSS

It is not.

jrb12711

@tour2ma said:

Did not notice that, but since the back an is intended to be a last safeguard against a fumble return a Safety makes more sense than a WR.

I did not, but have a few toes that are registering disagreement...

To be fair and to clarify, the collarbone takes the least amount of pressure to break and therefore is the "easiest". For sure people break toes and fingers at a higher volume but it's because they are a lot more exposed of course.

Mudfly

any chance all these collar bones are a result of players trying to avoid helmet to helmet?....it is the next closest thing....

Just a crazy guess.....but it makes you wonder.....

gftChris

@mudfly said:

any chance all these collar bones are a result of players trying to avoid helmet to helmet?....it is the next closest thing....

Just a crazy guess.....but it makes you wonder.....

I wouldn't have thought so, the padding in that area means direct impact is massively reduced. My guess is just an anomaly, back to normal next year. But we'll find out for sure then.

Increase in lower body, TJ Ward on Gronk injuries will be because of rule changes though.

Mudfly

@gftchris said:

I wouldn't have thought so, the padding in that area means direct impact is massively reduced. My guess is just an anomaly, back to normal next year. But we'll find out for sure then.

Increase in lower body, TJ Ward on Gronk injuries will be because of rule changes though.

Ahhh.....the lower body comment struck me as interesting(and true).....with all these guys dropping their heads before the tackle, was wondering if we'd see more neck injuries too(by the tackler)....

Maybe just an anomaly with the collar bones.....seems like a rash of them tho....and Romo did it twice? yes?

gftChris

@mudfly said:

Ahhh.....the lower body comment struck me as interesting(and true).....with all these guys dropping their heads before the tackle, was wondering if we'd see more neck injuries too(by the tackler)....

Maybe just an anomaly with the collar bones.....seems like a rash of them tho....and Romo did it twice? yes?

Check the video on Romo's injury:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000535155/article/tony-romo-fractures-left-clavicle-in-cowboys-win

It wasn't a hit to the body, collarbone injuries almost exclusively aren't, it's from people landing on other people, much like Hartline's. Maybe, maybe that's a secondary result of the rule change, but I can't see it.

Tour2ma

Instinct is to turn to the side as going down... same as "ducking head" with a head on collision coming. Both exactly the wrong thing to do.

I don't remember Hart's being a pancake like Romo's was (were)... more of a whip to the turf.

@mudfly said:

any chance all these collar bones are a result of players trying to avoid helmet to helmet?....it is the next closest thing....

Just a crazy guess.....but it makes you wonder.....

Possible...

Injury I have been wondering about are the knees... especially what seems to be a rise in non-contact knees again.

Shoes companies have developed all these one-piece soles with integrated football cleats. Seem to be a "grippier" material (neoprene?) similar to that in the gloves that are creating one-hand wonders everywhere.

Could be the new shoes are back to gripping too well on the most recent turf "revolution", field turf... which is still being scrutinized for toxic exposure to athletes... but that's another topic.