USC Pro Day
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@inspecta said:
Well I'm glad they are at least looking at Clay.I still think the kid is going to be an awesome pro, his pedigree is through the roof....
Rey better participate. As back and fourth as all these 'experts' are, if he just slightly improves all his combine numbers he'll instantly be top 10 in all mocks again. Write it down.
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40 times are beginning to trickle in.
Brian Cushing ran a 4.70, Kaluka Maiava ran a 4.65, and Kevin Ellison ran a 4.77. Receiver Patrick Turner ran a 4.58.
Cushing ran a 4.74 at the Combine, but USC has a notoriously fast track, so today's 4.7 probably won't be considered the better time. Maiva's 4.65, on the other hand, is a significant improvement over the 4.83 he ran at the Combine.
For now, Maualuga has decided not to run his 40. However, there's a possibility he may run after he goes through position drills.
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Rey Maualuga looked out of shape and poorly conditioned, just as he did at the Senior Bowl. Sources have told us he looked bad running the shuttles and three cone. No word yet on if he will definitely run the forty after position drills, which are starting now.
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Rey Maualuga looked out of shape and poorly conditioned, just as he did at the Senior Bowl. Sources have told us he looked bad running the shuttles and three cone. No word yet on if he will definitely run the forty after position drills, which are starting now.
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Masters said:
Not surprised at all.Seems like he's intentionally hurting his draft stock in the hopes of being drafted by a team at the bottom of round 1.... hence being on a winning team.
AdaM said:
Seems like he's intentionally hurting his draft stock in the hopes of being drafted by a team at the bottom of round 1.... hence being on a winning team.Doubt that. That is giving up money, which means more to guys first coming into the league. But anything is possible.
I think this is more of this guy being who he is.
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According to Inside USC's Scott Wolf, Rey ran his 40 somewhere between 4.60 and 4.65 seconds, which is about where I expected him to time (I thought 4.63-4.67). No word yet about his shuttle/cone times or how he looked in position drills.
Clay Matthews reportedly timed somewhere between 4.52-4.58, which will only boost his draft stock. According to Todd McShay, he was the most impressive linebacker at SC's pro day.
EDIT: Mike Mayock says that Maualuga's time was a 4.7 flat.
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@inspecta said:
Well I'm glad they are at least looking at Clay.I still think the kid is going to be an awesome pro, his pedigree is through the roof....
Rey better participate. As back and fourth as all these 'experts' are, if he just slightly improves all his combine numbers he'll instantly be top 10 in all mocks again. Write it down.
AdaM said:
Rey better participate. As back and fourth as all these 'experts' are, if he just slightly improves all his combine numbers he'll instantly be top 10 in all mocks again. Write it down.Rey is scheduled to come to Cleveland in 2 weeks for a private workout. OBR posted his schedule for the next 3 weeks.
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Mike Mayock says that Clay Matthews looked like a safety in pass coverage drills, whereas Cushing looked a little tight-hipped.
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Kyle Moore ran a 4.70 40 at 270 lbs. According to Mike Mayock, Moore has the potential to grow into a starting 3-4 end.
Here's some more info from TFY Draft:
After looking a little sloppy earlier in the day, Rey Maualuga finished the USC workout by running a very respectable hand timed 4.70 seconds in the forty. The numbers ranged as high as 4.78 with a few 4.60's thrown in.
Clay Matthews could be the big winner of today's workout, running a time of 4.58-seconds. Overall, his workout was very solid.
There will be a lot of debate about the throwing workout of Mark Sanchez today. Onlookers said Sanchez was very accurate and throws a crisp short pass. He possesses a quick, compact delivery. But they also confirmed something that's we noticed on film and something we mentioned during his combine workout; his arm strength is very marginal.
Sources said anytime Sanchez threw a pass that had to travel any sort of distance the ball lost a lot of velocity. He struggled throwing deep passes and just does not have the arm for a vertical offense. Sanchez also struggled putting any sort of zip on the outs.
The results of today combined with the workout of Matt Stafford yesterday, squarely put the Georgia junior at the top of the quarterback list.
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Kyle Moore ran a 4.70 40 at 270 lbs. According to Mike Mayock, Moore has the potential to grow into a starting 3-4 end.
Here's some more info from TFY Draft:
After looking a little sloppy earlier in the day, Rey Maualuga finished the USC workout by running a very respectable hand timed 4.70 seconds in the forty. The numbers ranged as high as 4.78 with a few 4.60's thrown in.
Clay Matthews could be the big winner of today's workout, running a time of 4.58-seconds. Overall, his workout was very solid.
There will be a lot of debate about the throwing workout of Mark Sanchez today. Onlookers said Sanchez was very accurate and throws a crisp short pass. He possesses a quick, compact delivery. But they also confirmed something that's we noticed on film and something we mentioned during his combine workout; his arm strength is very marginal.
Sources said anytime Sanchez threw a pass that had to travel any sort of distance the ball lost a lot of velocity. He struggled throwing deep passes and just does not have the arm for a vertical offense. Sanchez also struggled putting any sort of zip on the outs.
The results of today combined with the workout of Matt Stafford yesterday, squarely put the Georgia junior at the top of the quarterback list.
Aloysius said:
Kyle Moore ran a 4.70 40 at 270 lbs. According to Mike Mayock, Moore has the potential to grow into a starting 3-4 end.Here's some more info from TFY Draft:
Sanchez's workout and negative sounds very similar to Matt Leinart's a few years ago.
To me, buyers beware when looking at a USC QB, based on the numbers he put up. USC is practically a pro-team.
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Todd McShay says Sanchez was the real show today at he USC pro day and aced the day.
Thinks Rey had the biggest day with his 40 by running it later, and much better than his combine run (by improving his stock). Said Cushing did the best at the LB position drills, and Clay the best in coverage drills.
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Matthews...First USC LB taken. 15 to the Texans.
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Matthews...First USC LB taken. 15 to the Texans.
Matthews...First USC LB taken. 15 to the Texans.
Won't surprise me. I have figured Cushing or Clay will go before Rey.
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Todd McShay says Sanchez was the real show today at he USC pro day and aced the day.
Thinks Rey had the biggest day with his 40 by running it later, and much better than his combine run (by improving his stock). Said Cushing did the best at the LB position drills, and Clay the best in coverage drills.
Masters said:
Todd McShay says Sanchez was the real show today at he USC pro day and aced the day.Mayock was pretty high on him as well. Opinions generally seem to vary widely on Sanchez; people also disagreed about how he looked at the Combine.
Thinks Rey had the biggest day with his 40 by running it later, and much better than his combine run (by improving his stock). Said Cushing did the best at the LB position drills, and Clay the best in coverage drills.
Not sure if Rey running a 4.7 on a fast track will have a big impact - I don't think his speed & explosiveness were ever serious question marks. The more important issues were preparation and coverage ability, and it doesn't sound like he stood out in those areas.
And just to piss off Flugs (
), I'll include this link:Maualuga's bust factor scares NFL teams
Very interesting stuff.
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Hell, let Rey fall, let him fall right into our laps for our early second round pick! If he falls into early round 2, he will become the best LBer in the Leaugue!
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Todd McShay reported from the pro day workouts and stated Rey Maualuga had a great workout. He did all the drills and ran the 40 at the end and ran a 4.68. They didn't run on their fast track surface, but they ran their 40s on the field.
Says Maualuga really helped himself today.
I guess everybody looks at these workout a little differently.
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mikeyP72 said:
IMO, Film and stats outweigh pro day and combine.and I certainly agree with that. I like to judge a guy on how he plays with pads on and not how he runs or plays with shorts on.
Those times and workouts are a little piece of a big puzzle. I like what Mangini said about scouting. He said that the first thing he does before he even watches any film is to sit down and talk to a guy. Then, he knows whether to even look at the film.
I like to see if a WR can get separation, can he catch the ball in traffic, will he take a hit, can he block downfield. You can't see that in a workout in shorts. Can a LB get off blocks, fight through traffic, is he quick off the ball. Can't tell that by his 3 cone drill time.
Sanchez showed today that he can make the throws, but how does he move in the pocket and can he read defenses and how fast does he get through his progressions.
You see all this stuff on tape. but, the pro days and workouts serve a purpose. I just can't see guys jumping up and down the draft boards based on his showing in shorts. You watch film and you can tell if a guy is a football player or not.
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Masters said:
Todd McShay says Sanchez was the real show today at he USC pro day and aced the day.Mayock was pretty high on him as well. Opinions generally seem to vary widely on Sanchez; people also disagreed about how he looked at the Combine.
Thinks Rey had the biggest day with his 40 by running it later, and much better than his combine run (by improving his stock). Said Cushing did the best at the LB position drills, and Clay the best in coverage drills.
Not sure if Rey running a 4.7 on a fast track will have a big impact - I don't think his speed & explosiveness were ever serious question marks. The more important issues were preparation and coverage ability, and it doesn't sound like he stood out in those areas.
And just to piss off Flugs (
), I'll include this link:Maualuga's bust factor scares NFL teams
Very interesting stuff.
Aloysius said:
Mayock was pretty high on him as well. Opinions generally seem to vary widely on Sanchez; people also disagreed about how he looked at the Combine.Not sure if Rey running a 4.7 on a fast track will have a big impact - I don't think his speed & explosiveness were ever serious question marks. The more important issues were preparation and coverage ability, and it doesn't sound like he stood out in those areas.
And just to piss off Flugs (
), I'll include this link:Maualuga's bust factor scares NFL teams
Very interesting stuff.
It was less about the speed, and more the fact that he ran. They didn't think he would, but did after the drills. Probably more him helping his case from a character perspective.
Good article, thanks
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