In the second round, the Cleveland Browns select...
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Josh Doctson, WR from TCU.
At 6'3 and 195, he provides the kind of size our WR corp is sorely lacking. While not explosive, he has the ability to go up and get the ball, make contested grabs, and rarely drops anything. This is the kind of player we need on offense, and his skill set is a bit different from our other guys. He's a second round talent, so he's not a homerun type of specimen, but he could easily contribute immediately on offense, as well as help us in the red zone. Our Browns don't score touchdowns, that's the bottom line. We can move the ball, but we forever stall either in the red zone, or right before it. Countless touchdowns are scored every week in the NFL by targeting one-on-one coverage, and tossing a high pass. Other than Gary, we don't have the guy that can routinely make this catch. You don't win in the NFL by kicking FG's, and while we have an accurate kicker, he has his obvious drawbacks. His trajectory is woefully low, and coaches don't trust him from distance for this reason.
Doctson is a guy who had a ton of receptions, both as a junior, and an even more impressive season as a senior. In 2015 he had 79 receptions and 14 TD's, and in 2014 he had 11 TD's. As a second round talent, he has some areas to work on, mostly adding muscle and attempting to gain more explosiveness. I don't think we can take a WR at #2, although I feel like Laquon Treadwell is a hell of a talent. We'll go Bosa if he's available at #2, or possibly Hargraves, Ramsey, or Goff.
We obviously have to address the QB position in 2016, and I don't know how we're going to do that. Quality free agent QB's are virtually nonexistent, so we'll either have to trade a draft pick for someone (practically impossible), or take someone with the #2 pick. The Johnny bust completely kills us, and I'm not sure what we're going to do. Can we really go into the season with McCown, Davis, and Shaw? I guess we could, but is that the best path? Can we take someone in the 3rd round? Do we take a flyer on a Kaepernick, RG III, or some other wash out? Does a team like the Lions or Saint want to start completely over, and be willing to move Stafford or Brees?
Too many questions at QB, and this thread is about the second round selection. I want a WR that can move the sticks and make tough catches. A guy with reliable hands that scores these magical things called TOUCHDOWNS. A player with good size that compliments our smaller waterbugs. I want Josh Doctson.
http://www.todayspigskin.com/nfl-draft/josh-doctson-2016-nfl-draft-scouting-report/
Check out the above link. It provides a good analysis on both his strengths and weaknesses. Who do you guys want to see in the second round? Do you think WR is as important to upgrade as I do? What other names are you looking at?
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drafttek shows he might be right there @ 32 overall, our pick.
http://www.drafttek.com/Top-100-NFL-Draft-Prospects-2016.asp
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Can he put on a bit of weight? Most 6'3" receivers clock in at least 215lbs, and most 5'9" corners are 180-190lbs.
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william jackson III, university of houston, 6' 1" 185
If he is still around........been great all year and was great in the peach bowl.
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Can he put on a bit of weight? Most 6'3" receivers clock in at least 215lbs, and most 5'9" corners are 180-190lbs.
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Both Dotson and Jackson III seem worthy of consideration at #32 and both look to be positions of need...
Taking a WR that high would also signify a clean break with the past... not exactly "analytical", but very "psychological".
But there should also be an OT or two in that area.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
And then there is my favorite RB.
I could live with a decent WR, just to give whomever a prayer of not getting sacked 8 times a game.
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QB in the first is a given. Signs point to Goff.
If he's still available at the 32, given his ridiculous speed/quickness/production, I want LB Scooby Wright, Arizona.
Or Corey Coleman/Michael Thomas, whichever one the Vikings don't pick in the first.
DL wouldn't be a bad pick either - Adolphus Washington / Jonathan Bullard, etc. We need players who can runfit, because the current crop just isn't good.
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Carson Wentz. QB, NDSU
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#2 Jared Goff, QB, Cal
#32 Shilque Calhoun, DE, MSU
Not sure where Calhoun is projected exactly or if he'll fall that far. Too early to really tell anyway probably.
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#2 Goff simples
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Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
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Last time we selected the consensus top QB prospect in the draft was 1999. Even then I'm not sure it was a consensus with McNabb at #2.
Drafting the Johnny Manziels, Colt McCoys, Luke McCowns, Brandon Weedens, Charlie Fryes, Brady Quinns was never the answer for us, and it's rarely* the long-term answer for anybody.
Last time we tried taking the #1 QB prospect was 1999...just sayin' Not sure why everybody is opposed to Goff, who is becoming more apparently by the day - deemed worthy of the top pick in the draft.
We have the OL to protect him for a long period of time...as long as we keep JT/Schwartz and get a suitable center.
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Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
Oh yes PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let us draft a QB in the first and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let him ride the bench for 2 years and then maybe give him 5 games to learn the offense under 2 different coaches with 2 different OC and then wonder why it wont work.
Or we could take a justine Gilbert type figure instead? Nah thanks, I'd take the risk on the potential franchise qb personally, especially when we have the use of a great mentor in mccown.
Reward > risk
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No no no, you draft QBs with the 1st-5th pick when they can contribute day 1. No more top 5 projects, for this team anyway. At pick 15 sure, at pick 2 hell no.
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Goff is no project, the guy is as pro football ready as anyone since Luck
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