More Positive Tests

standish

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/three_...t_positive.html

Boston College DT BJ Raji, Illinois CB Vontae Davis & Florida WR Percy Harvin tested positive for marijuana at the combine, according to various sources, including one NFL team.

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/usc_li...t_positive.html

USC LB’s Brian Cushing & Clay Matthews tested positive for steroids at the NFL Scouting Combine, according to various sources, including one NFL team.

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/jose_m...s_positive.html

And UTEP Kicker test positive for marijuana as well...

lemosley01

@standish said:
http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/three_...t_positive.html
Boston College DT BJ Raji, Illinois CB Vontae Davis & Florida WR Percy Harvin tested positive for marijuana at the combine, according to various sources, including one NFL team.

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/usc_li...t_positive.html

USC LB’s Brian Cushing & Clay Matthews tested positive for steroids at the NFL Scouting Combine, according to various sources, including one NFL team.

http://www.nfldraftbible.com/Latest/jose_m...s_positive.html

And UTEP Kicker test positive for marijuana as well...

Uhhh...Matthews and Cushing just fell WAY out of the first round. This makes Rey M look much more attractive (although, my bets are on him taking GH or roids, but being smart enough to get off of them before the combine).

What's up with these guys who can't quit smoking dope their senior year. You stand to make how much money and you can't quit smoking? Wait until after you get that fat contract, then you can buy the shit by the trashcan.

Dumbasses.

hammertime

Malcomb's stock just went up!

ClevelandFanForLife

@lemosley01 said:
What's up with these guys who can't quit smoking dope their senior year.

this is why people look at athletes as complete morons: because they are. all you have to do is not smoke a certain substance and you would be a multi millionaire. it's like they are being asked: "hey do you want to make a million dollars?": "YEAH!" "do you want to not doing anything illegal?": "why the hell would i want to do that?"

honestly these guys are all morons and should i hope that teams remember this come draft time because the only way to get these guys to understand anything is to hit them where it hurts: there wallets.

PlaygroundLegend

I am actually happy about this, it raises his draft stock showing the world his teammates are cheaters and he is still able to be a beat without roids...... Now the only thing that will make my day is for Curry to be reported on roids

ClevelandFanForLife

@playgroundlegend said:
I am actually happy about this, it raises his draft stock showing the world his teammates are cheaters and he is still able to be a beat without roids...... Now the only thing that will make my day is for Curry to be reported on roids

i actually thought about this too. they got caught with roids and shouldn't really need to take them again. if they did take them again and got caught then they are bigger dumbasses than we thought. this does bring up an interesting thought though. are there several of usc's players on roids or is it just a desperate attempt to get their draft stock up? i could totally see pete caroll turning his back and not caring if his players took roids. it would explain a lot really. it really doesn't matter though. the ncaa would never do any in depth probing into usc, one of their biggest money makers. look at the other allegations that just went to the waste side. remember when reggie bush's family was receiving money and housing from boosters? what ever happened to that story? it's very similar to what the nfl does to the steelers. because of their high profile status, the nfl is afraid to touch them. same with usc.

lemosley01

@inspecta said:
I'll tell you why they can't stop smoking.
Weed is a natural pain killer, thus why it's prescribed to cancer/aids patients. When you play football there is pain, and weed helps not only the player to relax, but also helps with muscle pain and gives them a higher tolerance in the weight room and on the field.

For me it's a non issue as long as they show desire to work in other areas.

The Matthews positive test is very disappointing to say the least. Latimier anybody?

Sigh, I was really hoping we could snag that kid.

BJ Raji has a history. I'm guessing all of these guys have been smoking weed since way before 'pain' became in issue. My bets is they aren't smoking weed to JUST combat the pain. More like, stopping the pain is a happy side-effect of just getting stoned.

Clay III is extemely disappointing.

calfoxwc

Well, it is interesting that you can look at Mathew's and Cushing's builds and wonder....

I guess it was too much to expect Mathews to be like his Dad and come to the Browns...

So... Orakpo and Curry are the real deal -without- any help, I take it. That's impressive.

cane666

stupid as it is to smoke and take roids there still kids and they have proable got a system to getting clean real quick that work all there lifes before but now there in the big leagues and the test are that much harder to pass

( welcome to the nfl and real $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$)

OconRecon

@clevelandfanforlife said:
...with roids and shouldn't really need to take them again...

Right you are. The thinking for years was steroids really only helped while you're cycling on them and the benefits dwindled quickly thereafter.

However, recent studies are showing the benefit of steroids lasts years, even decades, after an athlete has stopped taking them, as long as they continue to work out. This is especially true if they are taken when one is younger (Shawn Merriman) rather than the after 35 baseball crowd, who uses it to extend careers, or the 60 and over Stallone types.

Players, agents, and dealers surely know this. They also know you can take all the creatine, herbs, and supplements you want, but nothing helps like steroids. Steroids have always been king.

Man, I really wanted C3, but there is some team out there who will take him. I'd still consider him in the third round, but not the second. The psychology of steroids is interesting. Most view it as cheating, illegal, and dangerous to your health - all true. But, the person willing to do steroids is often a focused and driven individual, but has compromised ethics. Drive and focus are not bad traits when properly directed. Some have it, some don't, and most believe drive and focus are difficult to teach.

choco

oh noes....instead of letting them do drugs, lets prescribe stronger drugs of a more serious variety to help them with the pain. so long as its addiction to a legal drug, like alcohol and percs, its OK. that evil pot needs to go....

? Aloysius

Here's what Cushing said at his pro day:

Cushing, who ran a 4.7 40, said Wednesday he tested negative for steroids at the NFL Combine last month in Indianapolis. Cushing said he was bothered by a report at the combine that teams were concerned about the issue, because he never tested positive for any illegal substances.
"Yeah, it bugged me a little bit," he said. "I'm not worrying about it."

DTBH

@lemosley01 said:
Uhhh...Matthews and Cushing just fell WAY out of the first round.

Technically the Steelers pick at the end of the first round, so... one of them is guarenteed to go in the first.

OconRecon

@choco said:
oh noes....instead of letting them do drugs, lets prescribe stronger drugs of a more serious variety to help them with the pain. so long as its addiction to a legal drug, like alcohol and percs, its OK. that evil pot needs to go....

Legal does not equal a good idea. Addicition by its own definition, to anything, is bad.

Riffer X

We've gotten into the juice discussion hardcore here before and my buddy Flugs disagree on a lot ot things regarding the topic. Suffice it to say, I beleive when done correctly roids can greatly benefit the body for years, but the key is educaton, diet, ancillaries etc.

However, NOBODY under the age of 25 should ever be doing them, period. The natural test is still abundant in the system and throwing in different levels of Test can be very harmful to development down the line.

As far as Clay doing them, it depends on the degree and severity. What also concerns me is not being educated enough to know what to take and how to beat these tests. That reeks of someone blindly taking whatever the musclehead at the gym gives them. These things are a lot more complicated than people know, which also leads to much confusion amongst the masses who just assume the things are lethal and dangerous. A lot of research and education goes into these things, or they can be lethal and dangerous.

PS Ask the Pukers about they boys. They were chewing orals like candy and shooting up with all the wrong esters. Total abuse.

? mz.

Well then. That should effectively stop the "Chip off the old block" Clay III homer bullcrap we've been inundated with for months here now that the stink is definitely off that rose. Unless you myopians plan on rationalizing this dumb action somehow...

I guess we figured out how to go from walk-on to possible first round pick...

PlaygroundLegend

I also think this shows the character of Rey Maualuga, he obviously had felt the pressure to do steroids seeing as how his teammates were, and not only were they his teammates but they were also his first round competition, he took the high road knowing that it could cost him a crap ton of money.

lemosley01

@choco said:
oh noes....instead of letting them do drugs, lets prescribe stronger drugs of a more serious variety to help them with the pain. so long as its addiction to a legal drug, like alcohol and percs, its OK. that evil pot needs to go....

It isn't that they are smoking pot. It's that pot is currently ILLEGAL, whether you agree with it or not. This is a STRONG inidicator of someone who makes poor decisions - especially in a situation like this, where we're talking millions of dollars. If they'll do it leading up to the draft, what else will they do.

That scares owners off, as it should.

lemosley01

@playgroundlegend said:
I also think this shows the character of Rey Maualuga, he obviously had felt the pressure to do steroids seeing as how his teammates were, and not only were they his teammates but they were also his first round competition, he took the high road knowing that it could cost him a crap ton of money.

Or he just had better trainers who know how to dose him without him getting caught.

I don't for a minute really believe he wasn't taking steroids. I'm sure it was JUST limited to Cushing and Clay...

Mr. T

Those who tested positive will be on the high list for the steelers. probably the only team that actually gets away with it.

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