The Lions sign Marvin Jones for 8 million a year
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We made our first choices already by not signing, while saying we want to retain our free agents.
Or "they" made their choices....
Mack made his years ago.....and both Farmer AND Sashi tried to sign Benji for months.....
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You know, we signed Dansby, Bowe, Bryant, Tramon, Mack & Whitner to huge contracts and, really, all I heard was that we overpaid for crap....(except maybe Mack, who clearly didnt want to be here).....
And, now, we stick to our guns and dont overpay 2nd tier players like Benji or Jones and what?....were cheap or stupid?
Jones signed for $8 million.....should we have offered him 10????....Maybe pay Benji $8 million to return some punts?
You know, we signed Dansby, Bowe, Bryant, Tramon, Mack & Whitner to huge contracts and, really, all I heard was that we overpaid for crap....(except maybe Mack, who clearly didnt want to be here).....
And, now, we stick to our guns and dont overpay 2nd tier players like Benji or Jones and what?....were cheap or stupid?
Jones signed for $8 million.....should we have offered him 10????....Maybe pay Benji $8 million to return some punts?
this is exactly correct. RaidersBaltiwhore's OL Osemelee gets 36.6 million in the first 3 yrs of a 5 yr,58.5 deal to go to the Raiders.
Janoris Jenkins signs with the Giants ... for MORE than 12 million a year. The Jags' deal with DL Malik Jackson is 90
million over six years...42 million guaranteed.
This stuff is stupid, especially for the Browns, who need more than one or two players to be a playoff team.
btw... Colt McCoy...resigned with the Redskins. Yep. For three years. After they cut RGIII.
I wonder who it was back then. who desperately wanted the Browns to give up a LOT, to get RGIII, the
"franchise quarterback".
Paying the huge bucks is not all that great an idea. I don't blame the players, I blame the NFL teams that are going overboard.
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I didn't realize the season started tomorrow.
Of course it doesn't. It started today. Actually it started before Monday. We made our first choices already by not signing, while saying we want to retain our free agents.
Of course it doesn't. It started today. Actually it started before Monday. We made our first choices already by not signing, while saying we want to retain our free agents.
What time was kickoff? I must have missed it.
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Fair enough on Mack, but they tried to "cheap" Benji compared to what SD is offering. And now what are we doing to retain Schwartz and Gipson?
How many wins did Benji net us in his career?
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Fair enough on Mack, but they tried to "cheap" Benji compared to what SD is offering. And now what are we doing to retain Schwartz and Gipson?
Benji got $6million....that is nowhere near "cheap"....he's not worth it.....he aint Antonio Brown guys....
this is exactly correct. RaidersBaltiwhore's OL Osemelee gets 36.6 million in the first 3 yrs of a 5 yr,58.5 deal to go to the Raiders.
Janoris Jenkins signs with the Giants ... for MORE than 12 million a year. The Jags' deal with DL Malik Jackson is 90
million over six years...42 million guaranteed.
This stuff is stupid, especially for the Browns, who need more than one or two players to be a playoff team.
Exactly.....if we were close, then maybe.....but overpaying average talent gets us nowhere, except into regrettable contracts
And, history shows that overpaid FA's usually end up getting cut or restructured almost immediatey.....ask Miami....
Bengals are way closer than we are, yet didnt see the need to keep Jones @ $8m.....
Im good if we sign Scwartz and think he's the most important of the guys we are faced with losing.....I had Mack gone long ago.....and Gipson/Benji just aint all that.....
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Fair enough on Mack, but they tried to "cheap" Benji compared to what SD is offering. And now what are we doing to retain Schwartz and Gipson?
How many wins did Benji net us in his career?
How many wins did Benji net us in his career?
Hello cpt shortsight, per usual.
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i'm ok with not overpaying guys from other teams tbh. I wouldn't have minded Jones but hey, if Detroit gives him more money AND he's got Matthew Stafford throwing to him....waddya gonna do? He probably would have still chosen Detroit even if we offered a few more bucks because of that.....Stafford vs McCown/draft nub....not a hard call.
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How many wins did Benji net us in his career?
Hello cpt shortsight, per usual.
Hello cpt shortsight, per usual.
Please enlighten me, then, on how losing Travis Benjamin is going to set this franchise back for years.
I'd love to hear that explanation.
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Hello cpt shortsight, per usual.
Please enlighten me, then, on how losing Travis Benjamin is going to set this franchise back for years.
I'd love to hear that explanation.
Please enlighten me, then, on how losing Travis Benjamin is going to set this franchise back for years.
I'd love to hear that explanation.
It won't, but we do need some dynamic Kick returners on this team. Who do you think those will be?
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Please enlighten me, then, on how losing Travis Benjamin is going to set this franchise back for years.
I'd love to hear that explanation.
It won't, but we do need some dynamic Kick returners on this team. Who do you think those will be?
It won't, but we do need some dynamic Kick returners on this team. Who do you think those will be?
Danny Shelton or Xavier Cooper. Let em try to storm downfield and try to slap them
into the turf. Ain't happenin.
Cooper used to play soccer, he has quick feet. And Shelton could average Benjamin's return average in a lava.

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Please enlighten me, then, on how losing Travis Benjamin is going to set this franchise back for years.
I'd love to hear that explanation.
It won't, but we do need some dynamic Kick returners on this team. Who do you think those will be?
It won't, but we do need some dynamic Kick returners on this team. Who do you think those will be?
One of the multitude of quick, undersized guys we currently have on our roster. I'm pretty sure Taylor Gabriel is still hanging on.
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We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
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It won't, but we do need some dynamic Kick returners on this team. Who do you think those will be?
Danny Shelton or Xavier Cooper. Let em try to storm downfield and try to slap them
into the turf. Ain't happenin.
Cooper used to play soccer, he has quick feet. And Shelton could average Benjamin's return average in a lava.

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We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Sorry, Moore sucked ass. Didn't see much of Gilbert returning kicks.....so I do think he should....at least get some use out of his sorry ass.
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
Still, need a guy that could take it all the way....like Benji did. Something certainly Moore could not do.
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We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Sorry, Moore sucked ass. Didn't see much of Gilbert returning kicks.....so I do think he should....at least get some use out of his sorry ass.
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
Still, need a guy that could take it all the way....like Benji did. Something certainly Moore could not do.
We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Sorry, Moore sucked ass. Didn't see much of Gilbert returning kicks.....so I do think he should....at least get some use out of his sorry ass.
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
Still, need a guy that could take it all the way....like Benji did. Something certainly Moore could not do.
The three total punt + kicks he returned in his four year career aren't enough to keep him, IMO.
Mediocre receiver, slightly above average return man at times. Let's not glorify this kid. Cribbs had two different seasons where he returned 3 or more punt + kicks for TD's.
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We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Sorry, Moore sucked ass. Didn't see much of Gilbert returning kicks.....so I do think he should....at least get some use out of his sorry ass.
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
Still, need a guy that could take it all the way....like Benji did. Something certainly Moore could not do.
We have good kick returners and Benji wasnt one of them.....Moore and Gilbert do that quite well and Benji only did it in 2014 and was terrible(20 yd average).....Heck, Gilbert was one of the best in the league, so Id expect to see more of that with Hue....
Sorry, Moore sucked ass. Didn't see much of Gilbert returning kicks.....so I do think he should....at least get some use out of his sorry ass.
Punt returns?....yeah, benji was pretty good there, but lets be honest, the difference between the top punt returners and middle of the pack guys is about 3 yards per return(tops)....or less than 5 yards per game avg....so, its not that big of a deal really....
Still, need a guy that could take it all the way....like Benji did. Something certainly Moore could not do.
Moore was 25.7, which is middle of the pack...not great, but not sucked ass either......Gilbert was much better...
And Moore is not a punt returner....just like Benji is not a kick returner....
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You can draft a small school speedster, who is tough and can really returns kicks,
in a late round, imho.
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