Sashi is Destroying Browns Reporting in His Spare Time at the Spring Meeting
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or draft a DE or LB or CB or RB at #2 cuz we all know the brown's org has knocked it out the park with those picks LOL.
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It's bad because it is an extremely inexact science with more often getting a dud than a diamond. If there was a guarantee that Went or Goff was the next Philip Rivers we all would sign up for that but with the teams history there a better chance they are the next Brandon Weeden
So I say just never draft a QB because past regimes fucked up. Maybe run the WildDawg on every play?
So I say just never draft a QB because past regimes fucked up. Maybe run the WildDawg on every play?
So you don't want to draft a QB with the 2nd pick in the 2016 NFL draft so the logical conclusion is above. Love my fellow Browns fans.
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because hopefully he will be the front man for the team 10+ years after sitting for +/- season.
how is that bad?
It's bad because it is an extremely inexact science with more often getting a dud than a diamond. If there was a guarantee that Went or Goff was the next Philip Rivers we all would sign up for that but with the teams history there a better chance they are the next Brandon Weeden
It's bad because it is an extremely inexact science with more often getting a dud than a diamond. If there was a guarantee that Went or Goff was the next Philip Rivers we all would sign up for that but with the teams history there a better chance they are the next Brandon Weeden
inexact science? I watched Rivers at NC state 2 years. His ducks don't match the dimes on these 2 guys are throwing. You don't quit QB drafting cause of the teams history. You draft a rookie QB, cause your team has nobody to build your future on. RG3 has proven what?
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It's bad because it is an extremely inexact science with more often getting a dud than a diamond. If there was a guarantee that Went or Goff was the next Philip Rivers we all would sign up for that but with the teams history there a better chance they are the next Brandon Weeden
inexact science? I watched Rivers at NC state 2 years. His ducks don't match the dimes on these 2 guys are throwing. You don't quit QB drafting cause of the teams history. You draft a rookie QB, cause your team has nobody to build your future on. RG3 has proven what?
inexact science? I watched Rivers at NC state 2 years. His ducks don't match the dimes on these 2 guys are throwing. You don't quit QB drafting cause of the teams history. You draft a rookie QB, cause your team has nobody to build your future on. RG3 has proven what?
If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
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inexact science? I watched Rivers at NC state 2 years. His ducks don't match the dimes on these 2 guys are throwing. You don't quit QB drafting cause of the teams history. You draft a rookie QB, cause your team has nobody to build your future on. RG3 has proven what?
If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
Well, they're picking after we are so your argument is invalid.
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inexact science? I watched Rivers at NC state 2 years. His ducks don't match the dimes on these 2 guys are throwing. You don't quit QB drafting cause of the teams history. You draft a rookie QB, cause your team has nobody to build your future on. RG3 has proven what?
If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
It's drafting, your looking at this the wrong way.. Both Jags & Oakland both put a rookie QB in place before anything was built around them. Neither maybe Elite, but comparable to Wentz & Goff at draft time. 2014 Oakland, after we slide from 4 to 8 for Gilbert, Oakland takes K. Mack at 5.(we pass on Mack & Watkins, Bridgewater to take JM at 22). Rd. 2 we take Bitonio at pick 3. Oak. takes D. Carr at next pick than add A. Cooper in 15, Boom, QB established, add other pieces, overpaid FA's whatever(which they have) Carr's got 5-7 years left for playoff contention. Same year 2014 Jags take Bortles Rd.1 at #3. Rd. 2 add WR's Marquise Lee at 7 & Allen Robinson at #29 from 49'ers. Jags in 2015 take Dante Fowler Rd.1 at 3. Jags were one of the higher in points scored 2015 but Fowler being out, hurt them in points against. But again QB established, playoff window now open, spend money in other pieces (which they have). Neither Jags nor Oakland play in a division like ours but this "can't put QB in place till pieces surround him" is total BS imo. If this FO passes on 1 of these 2 QB's at anywhere in 1st Round, Hue's hiring would be a total waste in near future imho.. It's time we start building this team with a vision that see's how to build one..
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If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
Well, they're picking after we are so your argument is invalid.
Well, they're picking after we are so your argument is invalid.
That was a comment about drafting Gabbert & Bortles with 10 and 3. One isn't with the team and the other is 8-21.
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If you are 4-12 and building your franchise on a QB, you're the Jags and how is that working.
It's drafting, your looking at this the wrong way.. Both Jags & Oakland both put a rookie QB in place before anything was built around them. Neither maybe Elite, but comparable to Wentz & Goff at draft time. 2014 Oakland, after we slide from 4 to 8 for Gilbert, Oakland takes K. Mack at 5.(we pass on Mack & Watkins, Bridgewater to take JM at 22). Rd. 2 we take Bitonio at pick 3. Oak. takes D. Carr at next pick than add A. Cooper in 15, Boom, QB established, add other pieces, overpaid FA's whatever(which they have) Carr's got 5-7 years left for playoff contention. Same year 2014 Jags take Bortles Rd.1 at #3. Rd. 2 add WR's Marquise Lee at 7 & Allen Robinson at #29 from 49'ers. Jags in 2015 take Dante Fowler Rd.1 at 3. Jags were one of the higher in points scored 2015 but Fowler being out, hurt them in points against. But again QB established, playoff window now open, spend money in other pieces (which they have). Neither Jags nor Oakland play in a division like ours but this "can't put QB in place till pieces surround him" is total BS imo. If this FO passes on 1 of these 2 QB's at anywhere in 1st Round, Hue's hiring would be a total waste in near future imho.. It's time we start building this team with a vision that see's how to build one..
It's drafting, your looking at this the wrong way.. Both Jags & Oakland both put a rookie QB in place before anything was built around them. Neither maybe Elite, but comparable to Wentz & Goff at draft time. 2014 Oakland, after we slide from 4 to 8 for Gilbert, Oakland takes K. Mack at 5.(we pass on Mack & Watkins, Bridgewater to take JM at 22). Rd. 2 we take Bitonio at pick 3. Oak. takes D. Carr at next pick than add A. Cooper in 15, Boom, QB established, add other pieces, overpaid FA's whatever(which they have) Carr's got 5-7 years left for playoff contention. Same year 2014 Jags take Bortles Rd.1 at #3. Rd. 2 add WR's Marquise Lee at 7 & Allen Robinson at #29 from 49'ers. Jags in 2015 take Dante Fowler Rd.1 at 3. Jags were one of the higher in points scored 2015 but Fowler being out, hurt them in points against. But again QB established, playoff window now open, spend money in other pieces (which they have). Neither Jags nor Oakland play in a division like ours but this "can't put QB in place till pieces surround him" is total BS imo. If this FO passes on 1 of these 2 QB's at anywhere in 1st Round, Hue's hiring would be a total waste in near future imho.. It's time we start building this team with a vision that see's how to build one..
This is my exact point. The Browns have nothing on this team. And please don't give me any Duke Johnson bullshit, he's mediocre. If you think you draft Wentz and RG3 opens 1-5 and keeps playing you're high.
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It's drafting, your looking at this the wrong way.. Both Jags & Oakland both put a rookie QB in place before anything was built around them. Neither maybe Elite, but comparable to Wentz & Goff at draft time. 2014 Oakland, after we slide from 4 to 8 for Gilbert, Oakland takes K. Mack at 5.(we pass on Mack & Watkins, Bridgewater to take JM at 22). Rd. 2 we take Bitonio at pick 3. Oak. takes D. Carr at next pick than add A. Cooper in 15, Boom, QB established, add other pieces, overpaid FA's whatever(which they have) Carr's got 5-7 years left for playoff contention. Same year 2014 Jags take Bortles Rd.1 at #3. Rd. 2 add WR's Marquise Lee at 7 & Allen Robinson at #29 from 49'ers. Jags in 2015 take Dante Fowler Rd.1 at 3. Jags were one of the higher in points scored 2015 but Fowler being out, hurt them in points against. But again QB established, playoff window now open, spend money in other pieces (which they have). Neither Jags nor Oakland play in a division like ours but this "can't put QB in place till pieces surround him" is total BS imo. If this FO passes on 1 of these 2 QB's at anywhere in 1st Round, Hue's hiring would be a total waste in near future imho.. It's time we start building this team with a vision that see's how to build one..
This is my exact point. The Browns have nothing on this team. And please don't give me any Duke Johnson bullshit, he's mediocre. If you think you draft Wentz and RG3 opens 1-5 and keeps playing you're high.
This is my exact point. The Browns have nothing on this team. And please don't give me any Duke Johnson bullshit, he's mediocre. If you think you draft Wentz and RG3 opens 1-5 and keeps playing you're high.
nobody's high or did I say anything about RG3 even starting at all. Draft Wentzoff at #2 & see where it goes at camp & the only drama I want to hear, is we have not named our starter due to competition. As for Duke, it's been 1 year. He's now seen what he can do to get better & if D. Henry is still their at #32 he will be tuff to pass up with Crow FA after next season, Crows vision & balance has got to go imo..
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This is my exact point. The Browns have nothing on this team. And please don't give me any Duke Johnson bullshit, he's mediocre. If you think you draft Wentz and RG3 opens 1-5 and keeps playing you're high.
nobody's high or did I say anything about RG3 even starting at all. Draft Wentzoff at #2 & see where it goes at camp & the only drama I want to hear, is we have not named our starter due to competition. As for Duke, it's been 1 year. He's now seen what he can do to get better & if D. Henry is still their at #32 he will be tuff to pass up with Crow FA after next season, Crows vision & balance has got to go imo..
nobody's high or did I say anything about RG3 even starting at all. Draft Wentzoff at #2 & see where it goes at camp & the only drama I want to hear, is we have not named our starter due to competition. As for Duke, it's been 1 year. He's now seen what he can do to get better & if D. Henry is still their at #32 he will be tuff to pass up with Crow FA after next season, Crows vision & balance has got to go imo..
So now you're back to Oakland and Jacksonville drafting a rookie QB and starting him on a shitty team.
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nobody's high or did I say anything about RG3 even starting at all. Draft Wentzoff at #2 & see where it goes at camp & the only drama I want to hear, is we have not named our starter due to competition. As for Duke, it's been 1 year. He's now seen what he can do to get better & if D. Henry is still their at #32 he will be tuff to pass up with Crow FA after next season, Crows vision & balance has got to go imo..
So now you're back to Oakland and Jacksonville drafting a rookie QB and starting him on a shitty team.
So now you're back to Oakland and Jacksonville drafting a rookie QB and starting him on a shitty team.
Again, nothing ever changes. Make a opinion, including the words "compete" & people like yourself turn it into their own story to respond. Good luck arguing with yourself in your own opinions.. Get to end of camp & let's talk about this shitty team. in your opinion
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Duke Johnson is....
a terrific young talent. Anything else is just dumb.
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So now you're back to Oakland and Jacksonville drafting a rookie QB and starting him on a shitty team.
Again, nothing ever changes. Make a opinion, including the words "compete" & people like yourself turn it into their own story to respond. Good luck arguing with yourself in your own opinions.. Get to end of camp & let's talk about this shitty team. in your opinion
Again, nothing ever changes. Make a opinion, including the words "compete" & people like yourself turn it into their own story to respond. Good luck arguing with yourself in your own opinions.. Get to end of camp & let's talk about this shitty team. in your opinion
Nothing to do with "competing" you draft Wentz or Goff and they win the job, see Oakland & Jacksonville. RGIII wins the job, or gets it handed to him to give the rookie time to adapt, and he's 1-5 and fans will be chanting for the rookie. How many times does this need to happen before history stops repeating itself.
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Duke Johnson is....
a terrific young talent. Anything else is just dumb.
3.6 ypc and 2 TDs behind what PFF ranked as one of the best offensive lines in football, so yes a terrific young talent
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meaningless stats. There is more to football that a simple stat....
the Browns had no wr group to scare defenses, and
just so "NO" to your dumb reply next time.
Search ResultsWhere was Duke Johnson in the second half of the Clevelandwww.cleveland.com/.../where_was_duke_johnson_in_th...Nov 1, 2015 - Browns running back Duke Johnson fends off Arizona Cardinals free ... But the Browns did not target him in the second half with a pass as he ...The Plain DealerBrowns' Wilbert Montgomery can't explain Duke Johnson's ...www.cleveland.com/.../browns_wilbert_montgomery_c...Nov 18, 2015 - Browns' Wilbert Montgomery can't explain Duke Johnson's 2nd-halfdisappearing act ... But he's being used primarily as a receiver out of the backfield, and has more than ... It's not there for the running backs so that's different.The Plain DealerWhat kind of role will Duke Johnson have in 2nd half of ...www.clevelandbrowns.com/...Duke-Johnson...2nd-hal...Nov 4, 2015 - Browns Mailbag: What kind of role will Duke Johnson have in 2nd half of season? ... Johnson had a minimal impact in Sunday's second half, and it was ... of the game, but there's no guarantee he'll do that against the Bengals.Cleveland Browns -
3.6 ypc and 2 TDs behind what PFF ranked as one of the best offensive lines in football, so yes a terrific young talent
Also 534 yards receiving, 8.8 YPC catching passes from one of the shittiest QB's in the league and voted AFC North Rookie of the year.
It will be fun to see what he can do with a QB that will hopefully force defenses to play off the ball a bit and more than 6 carries per game.
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Well, they're picking after we are so your argument is invalid.
That was a comment about drafting Gabbert & Bortles with 10 and 3. One isn't with the team and the other is 8-21.
That was a comment about drafting Gabbert & Bortles with 10 and 3. One isn't with the team and the other is 8-21.
And...they're still picking after us, so once again your point is invalid.
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Again, nothing ever changes. Make a opinion, including the words "compete" & people like yourself turn it into their own story to respond. Good luck arguing with yourself in your own opinions.. Get to end of camp & let's talk about this shitty team. in your opinion
Nothing to do with "competing" you draft Wentz or Goff and they win the job, see Oakland & Jacksonville. RGIII wins the job, or gets it handed to him to give the rookie time to adapt, and he's 1-5 and fans will be chanting for the rookie. How many times does this need to happen before history stops repeating itself.
Nothing to do with "competing" you draft Wentz or Goff and they win the job, see Oakland & Jacksonville. RGIII wins the job, or gets it handed to him to give the rookie time to adapt, and he's 1-5 and fans will be chanting for the rookie. How many times does this need to happen before history stops repeating itself.
You see that as a problem? I seem to remember Gary Danielson starting a few games for the Browns in 1985, got hurt, and then a guy by the name of Bernie Kosar took over. I'd sort of like that bit of history to repeat itself.
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3.6 ypc and 2 TDs behind what PFF ranked as one of the best offensive lines in football, so yes a terrific young talent
Also 534 yards receiving, 8.8 YPC catching passes from one of the shittiest QB's in the league and voted AFC North Rookie of the year.
It will be fun to see what he can do with a QB that will hopefully force defenses to play off the ball a bit and more than 6 carries per game.
Also 534 yards receiving, 8.8 YPC catching passes from one of the shittiest QB's in the league and voted AFC North Rookie of the year.
It will be fun to see what he can do with a QB that will hopefully force defenses to play off the ball a bit and more than 6 carries per game.
Remember when Jordan Cameron was awesome too.
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That was a comment about drafting Gabbert & Bortles with 10 and 3. One isn't with the team and the other is 8-21.
And...they're still picking after us, so once again your point is invalid.
And...they're still picking after us, so once again your point is invalid.
So is your point that being the Jags is a good thing? Stockholm syndrome?
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