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We Open Up Day 2. Who is it?

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  • thenew23T thenew23 wrote on
    #30

    We dont need any more picks this year...

    At some point you have to start accumulating good players, not just good-looking picks...

    #Justsayin'
  • T Taco918 wrote on
    #31

    I'm okay with trading down a bit if it allows us to pick up some ammo to move back into the 2nd round. Two picks in both the 2nd and 3rd would be ideal as this is where a majority of the value is in this draft.

    If we could pull my little scenario off, I'd love getting help at

    OL - preferably tackle but a center would work

    ILB

    Edge Rusher

    WR/TE maybe RB - another weapon basically

    If we could pull that off, I think we'd be in a great position heading into the final rounds. We probably wouldn't have as many picks 4-7 with my scenario but we would have already made a nice in little dent in our litany of needs.

  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on
    #32

    We have 1 2nd rounder, 3 3rds and 3 4ths left to pick. You bet your ass we will be moving all over the next 3 rounds.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Hunter Henry - Barnidge won't be here forever.

    Derrick Henry - Biggest RB I've seen in a while.

    Myles Jack - Guy was a top 1-5 pick leading all the way up to the draft.

    Whitehair/Westerman - If one of them could solve the RT spot, this would be a good pick.

    I'd only trade out of this spot for 2nds(one this year and one next year) and a 3rd. Or a first rounder next year.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #33

    @poeticg said:

    1. Hunter Henry - Barnidge won't be here forever.
    2. Derrick Henry - Biggest RB I've seen in a while.
    3. Myles Jack - Guy was a top 1-5 pick leading all the way up to the draft.
    4. Whitehair/Westerman - If one of them could solve the RT spot, this would be a good pick.
    1. Hunter's OK, but there are other options.
    2. Size? Really?
    3. No Jack...
    4. Never draft an OG to do an OT's job...

    @taco918 said:

    I'm okay with trading down a bit if it allows us to pick up some ammo to move back into the 2nd round.

    Ding Ding Ding... someone gets "it"...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @poeticg said:

    1. Hunter Henry - Barnidge won't be here forever.
    2. Derrick Henry - Biggest RB I've seen in a while.
    3. Myles Jack - Guy was a top 1-5 pick leading all the way up to the draft.
    4. Whitehair/Westerman - If one of them could solve the RT spot, this would be a good pick.
    1. Hunter's OK, but there are other options.
    2. Size? Really?
    3. No Jack...
    4. Never draft an OG to do an OT's job...

    @taco918 said:

    I'm okay with trading down a bit if it allows us to pick up some ammo to move back into the 2nd round.

    Ding Ding Ding... someone gets "it"...

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #34

    @tour2ma said:

    1. Hunter's OK, but there are other options.
    2. Size? Really?
    3. No Jack...
    4. Never draft an OG to do an OT's job...

    Ding Ding Ding... someone gets "it"...

    Yes, but does our rookie FO get it? Will they really use ammunition to trade back up a la Titans or just take moneybodies?

  • darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #35
    Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler 5m5 minutes ago
    Dane Brugler@dpbrugler
    There is a ton of action right now w/ the #Browns No. 32 pick. They'll have to LOVE a player there not to accept one of these offers.
    Apr 29, 2016 108 23View on X


    There is a ton of action right now w/ the #Browns No. 32 pick. They'll have to LOVE a player there not to accept one of these offers.





  • darren15D darren15
    Dane Brugler ‏@dpbrugler 5m5 minutes ago
    Dane Brugler@dpbrugler
    There is a ton of action right now w/ the #Browns No. 32 pick. They'll have to LOVE a player there not to accept one of these offers.
    Apr 29, 2016 108 23View on X


    There is a ton of action right now w/ the #Browns No. 32 pick. They'll have to LOVE a player there not to accept one of these offers.





    T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #36

    @darren15 said:

    There is a ton of action right now w/ the #Browns No. 32 pick. They'll have to LOVE a player there not to accept one of these offers.

    In the drivers seat for a 3rd time in one draft. Not bad for rookies if they cash it in for a great draft.

  • Mike HM Mike H wrote on
    #37

    Consensus from evaluators: More talented players available than anticipated. May increase trades in early 2nd. Dallas could move up or back

    More talented players available than anticipated = heftier cost for the #32 pick. Go get em, Harvard.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #38

    Yup, Mike... time to see just how ruthless Sashi can be...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on
    #39

    I would take a kings ransom for Myles Jack.

    Regardless of what we think about knee injuries. We have to look at the player. Hell, RG3 had knee issues, he's going to return from that. Look, we are building through the draft and have already gotten so many future picks that Myles could be replaced if the knee isn't good.

    BUT, if the knee is good. We get an amazing COVER LB with instincts and speed. We do NOT have that in Cleveland right now. He could be a bridge to the future for us.

    I'm all in on Myles Jack... unless I'm getting a first round pick and then some...

    We need JACK.

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
    PoeticGP 1 Reply
  • gftChrisG gftChris

    To be honest, in this situation I might consider moving back a spot or two but having someone like Ragland there would be difficult to pass up.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on
    #40

    @gftchris said:

    To be honest, in this situation I might consider moving back a spot or two but having someone like Ragland there would be difficult to pass up.

    Trading back makes sense. Teams have had a day to stress over who they want and whether or not they'll be there. This is like starting the draft over and we have the #1 pick. We could get someone to overpay to get their guy.

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • darren15D darren15 wrote on
    #41
    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 44m44 minutes ago
    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.
    Apr 29, 2016 596 120View on X


    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.


    The GipperT S 2 Replies
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    I would take a kings ransom for Myles Jack.

    Regardless of what we think about knee injuries. We have to look at the player. Hell, RG3 had knee issues, he's going to return from that. Look, we are building through the draft and have already gotten so many future picks that Myles could be replaced if the knee isn't good.

    BUT, if the knee is good. We get an amazing COVER LB with instincts and speed. We do NOT have that in Cleveland right now. He could be a bridge to the future for us.

    I'm all in on Myles Jack... unless I'm getting a first round pick and then some...

    We need JACK.

    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on
    #42

    @poeticg said:

    I would take a kings ransom for Myles Jack.

    Regardless of what we think about knee injuries. We have to look at the player. Hell, RG3 had knee issues, he's going to return from that. Look, we are building through the draft and have already gotten so many future picks that Myles could be replaced if the knee isn't good.

    BUT, if the knee is good. We get an amazing COVER LB with instincts and speed. We do NOT have that in Cleveland right now. He could be a bridge to the future for us.

    I'm all in on Myles Jack... unless I'm getting a first round pick and then some...

    We need JACK.

    I will admit to you the knee is concerning. But look how far has our medical advancement have come and how much farther will they go? The brightest and most advanced medical teams in the world are working on NFL Players and doing incredible research and treatments. There has to be a way to fix Jack, he has it all in his head, it's there. The athlete was there before the injury. 4 years of Myles Jack is well, worth the 2nd round pick... even then we'd be spoiled from the kid.

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
  • Mike HM Mike H wrote on
    #43

    Didn't think Browns would make all 12 picks, and still don't... but just in case....

    Need to verify, but looks like Dolphins have record for most picks by one team in a 7-round draft: 14 in 1997. Browns getting close.

  • darren15D darren15

    Sashi saying they are taking calls for a trade out of 32

    F FALCON7 wrote on
    #44

    @darren15 said:

    Sashi saying they are taking calls for a trade out of 32

    Dallas likely want's Cook.

  • darren15D darren15
    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 44m44 minutes ago
    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.
    Apr 29, 2016 596 120View on X


    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.


    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #45

    @darren15 said:

    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.

    Someone else said QB Cook. Which is it?

    And what would we get in return from Dallas?

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on
    #46

    When does this round start?

  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe

    When does this round start?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #47

    @mr.-make-believe said:

    When does this round start?

    7:00 pm Eastern time, I believe.

  • darren15D darren15
    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 44m44 minutes ago
    Ian Rapoport@RapSheet
    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.
    Apr 29, 2016 596 120View on X


    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.


    S sdballis wrote on
    #48

    @darren15 said:

    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.

    What's dropping 2 spots gonna do for us?? We might get a 6th for that. Not worth it IMO. We could sit where we are and for sure take the guy we want. A 6th is useless to me, especially when we're already LOADED with picks.

    The GipperT Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @darren15 said:

    The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.

    Someone else said QB Cook. Which is it?

    And what would we get in return from Dallas?

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #49

    @the-gipper said:

    Someone else said QB Cook. Which is it?

    And what would we get in return from Dallas?

    To answer my own question......We have #32, Dallas has #34. #32= 590 draft value point #34= 560 pt. We would need about 30 points to go back....but, in this draft beside comp picks that cannot be traded, Dallas has only picks #101, and 189.

    189 is only worth 15.8 points. 101 is worth 96 points. One would be too little and another would be too much.

    Perhaps if we take 101, and give the 138 back, that could make the deal. But, again, the numbers may not come that close.

    I think it would probably involve picks next year, again.

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