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Q: When is the BPA not the BPA? A: When the definition changes..

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #1

    I am coming to the conclusion that BPA no longer stands for Best Player Available... not in "Believeland" anyway.

    It now means: Best Prospect Available. And analytics do the digging for and influenece the arranging of the "prospects".

    This change is going to take some getting used to...

    ... as will even less ability to predict picks (as if it wasn't low enough already).

    I take solace in this. The only other organization that consistently throws the kinds of draft curveballs our FO threw this year is New England.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #2

    The word I heard several time listening to the draft this weekend is that the Browns were looking for "Overcomers".

    Guys that have overcome questionable upbringings....like Ogbah. Bad medical situations...like Shon Coleman. Bad injuries like Scooby Wright and some others. Bad faith in them by college coaches.....like Nassib.

    Perhaps this class should be labeled The Overcomers.....as that is apparently the kind of guy this FO wants.

    Does not sound like an "analytics" approach much, does it?

    Browns149B 1 Reply
  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #3

    We also took 2 guys that were walkons and had to work their asses off to get onto the field, and hell, just stay in school without monetary help.

    Hardhat and lunch pail dudes...................

    Mike HM 1 Reply
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    The word I heard several time listening to the draft this weekend is that the Browns were looking for "Overcomers".

    Guys that have overcome questionable upbringings....like Ogbah. Bad medical situations...like Shon Coleman. Bad injuries like Scooby Wright and some others. Bad faith in them by college coaches.....like Nassib.

    Perhaps this class should be labeled The Overcomers.....as that is apparently the kind of guy this FO wants.

    Does not sound like an "analytics" approach much, does it?

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on
    #4

    @the-gipper said:

    The word I heard several time listening to the draft this weekend is that the Browns were looking for "Overcomers".

    Guys that have overcome questionable upbringings....like Ogbah. Bad medical situations...like Shon Coleman. Bad injuries like Scooby Wright and some others. Bad faith in them by college coaches.....like Nassib.

    Perhaps this class should be labeled The Overcomers.....as that is apparently the kind of guy this FO wants.

    Does not sound like an "analytics" approach much, does it?

    I think the analytics had a lot to do with this draft. They took guys that led college football in numerous statical categories over the last 2 years.
    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #5

    So the Princeton kid had to overcome all that competition from over-privileged Ivy League sons of the ultra-rich? Kind of like black kids going through Harvard? 😉😁

    The GipperT 1 Reply
  • Browns149B Browns149

    @the-gipper said:

    The word I heard several time listening to the draft this weekend is that the Browns were looking for "Overcomers".

    Guys that have overcome questionable upbringings....like Ogbah. Bad medical situations...like Shon Coleman. Bad injuries like Scooby Wright and some others. Bad faith in them by college coaches.....like Nassib.

    Perhaps this class should be labeled The Overcomers.....as that is apparently the kind of guy this FO wants.

    Does not sound like an "analytics" approach much, does it?

    I think the analytics had a lot to do with this draft. They took guys that led college football in numerous statical categories over the last 2 years.
    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #6

    @browns149 said:

    I think the analytics had a lot to do with this draft. They took guys that led college football in numerous statical categories over the last 2 years.

    I agree.

    But how does that also comport with the apparent philosophy of taking high character guys. The guys that overcame adversity/injuries. Is it just a coincidence?

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  • T TexasAg1969

    So the Princeton kid had to overcome all that competition from over-privileged Ivy League sons of the ultra-rich? Kind of like black kids going through Harvard? 😉😁

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #7

    @texasag1969 said:

    So the Princeton kid had to overcome all that competition from over-privileged Ivy League sons of the ultra-rich? Kind of like black kids going through Harvard? 😉😁

    I don't know if every single player taken had a Martin Luther King moment. But a lot of them did. Our new team fight song?:

  • D BoneD D Bone

    We also took 2 guys that were walkons and had to work their asses off to get onto the field, and hell, just stay in school without monetary help.

    Hardhat and lunch pail dudes...................

    Mike HM Mike H wrote on
    #8

    @d-bone said:

    We also took 2 guys that were walkons and had to work their asses off to get onto the field, and hell, just stay in school without monetary help.

    Hardhat and lunch pail dudes...................

    Lunch pails are no longer permitted in Berea after Pettine got canned.

    Scott Solomon was a lunch pail motherfucker. His ass is gone finally.

    D BoneD The GipperT 2 Replies
  • Mike HM Mike H

    @d-bone said:

    We also took 2 guys that were walkons and had to work their asses off to get onto the field, and hell, just stay in school without monetary help.

    Hardhat and lunch pail dudes...................

    Lunch pails are no longer permitted in Berea after Pettine got canned.

    Scott Solomon was a lunch pail motherfucker. His ass is gone finally.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #9

    @mike-h said:

    Lunch pails are no longer permitted in Berea after Pettine got canned.

    Scott Solomon was a lunch pail motherfucker. His ass is gone finally.

    Give me a lunch pail motherfucker any day, over a hidden flask motherdrunker.

    👍
  • D BoneD D Bone

    @mike-h said:

    Lunch pails are no longer permitted in Berea after Pettine got canned.

    Scott Solomon was a lunch pail motherfucker. His ass is gone finally.

    Give me a lunch pail motherfucker any day, over a hidden flask motherdrunker.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #10

    @d-bone said:

    Give me a lunch pail motherfucker any day, over a hidden flask motherdrunker.

    Agree.... but "bloodbath" was a stretch...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @browns149 said:

    I think the analytics had a lot to do with this draft. They took guys that led college football in numerous statical categories over the last 2 years.

    I agree.

    But how does that also comport with the apparent philosophy of taking high character guys. The guys that overcame adversity/injuries. Is it just a coincidence?

    One PostO One Post wrote on
    #11

    @the-gipper said:

    I agree.

    But how does that also comport with the apparent philosophy of taking high character guys. The guys that overcame adversity/injuries. Is it just a coincidence?

    ^^^^^^ This is why I read Gipper. I believe in high character players. It's really nice to see what they do for the community.

    Speaking of high character prospects there are a lot of team captains that fit the mold.

    https://www.facebook.com/Mike-Black-Sunday-Stories-1780988822148720/?ref=bookmarks
  • Mike HM Mike H

    @d-bone said:

    We also took 2 guys that were walkons and had to work their asses off to get onto the field, and hell, just stay in school without monetary help.

    Hardhat and lunch pail dudes...................

    Lunch pails are no longer permitted in Berea after Pettine got canned.

    Scott Solomon was a lunch pail motherfucker. His ass is gone finally.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #12

    @mike-h said:

    Lunch pails are no longer permitted in Berea after Pettine got canned.

    Scott Solomon was a lunch pail motherfucker. His ass is gone finally.

    I think a lot of the guys we just took in this draft, and whom we got in free agency were lunch pail kind of guys.

  • Mike HM Mike H wrote on
    #13

    No, they produced on the field. They aren't just "feel good" stories or "hard workers," although those terms may apply... they appear to be actual football players. Big difference.

    High school Mike prioritized the former over the latter.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @d-bone said:

    Give me a lunch pail motherfucker any day, over a hidden flask motherdrunker.

    Agree.... but "bloodbath" was a stretch...

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on
    #14

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree.... but "bloodbath" was a stretch...

    The only bloodbath going on is the purge of under performing Farmer players.

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