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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    That is a fucked up Michigan depth chart. The general idea that we have a lot of starters returning is true though.

    It is what I found on line.....you are free to find a more accurate one. (and why is it fucked up?)

    @the-gipper said:

    It is what I found on line.....you are free to find a more accurate one. (and why is it fucked up?)

    The position of some of the players (and the formatting).

    I'm covering 2nd shift tonight, but I'll try to get you a better one tomorrow

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @mld-woody said:

    I'm ending the draft picks vs rap video thing here. If you want to be an insufferable child about it I'll let you. But I'm done. No one disagreed with you and your walking around beating your chest in victory...

    Then why are your knickers in such a twist about it?

    Math. People saw 15-1 as a god bet. They put money on Michigan. So much that the odds moved to 7-1.

    I think there is more to it.

    Yes, the draft next year. I am confident Michigan will have a better draft class than OSU barring all of the Jrs sticking around.

    Sure, that is the early conjecture. We haven't seen how these OSU backups will perform now that they are starters. Who knows....perhaps some stars will emerge. You are welcome.

    http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2016/07/ohio_states_jt_barrett_michiga.html There's a Big Ten Media poll on the preseason to Defensive and Offensive players in the B1G. Having the #1, #5 and #7 player on the defensive list is leading people to think we'll have an elite defensive. That is leading into the title hype (which I still think is too soon)

    JT Barrett pretty much sliced and diced that defense up last year...to the tune of 42-13. Weren't #1, #5 and #7 on that team? Not so elite...so, yea, it is a lot way to soon for any title hype. (but, sure...EZ E won't be there this year...and he mauled that defense as well)

    @the-gipper said:

    @mld-woody said:

    I'm ending the draft picks vs rap video thing here. If you want to be an insufferable child about it I'll let you. But I'm done. No one disagreed with you and your walking around beating your chest in victory...

    Then why are your knickers in such a twist about it?

    Math. People saw 15-1 as a god bet. They put money on Michigan. So much that the odds moved to 7-1.

    I think there is more to it.

    Yes, the draft next year. I am confident Michigan will have a better draft class than OSU barring all of the Jrs sticking around.

    Sure, that is the early conjecture. We haven't seen how these OSU backups will perform now that they are starters. Who knows....perhaps some stars will emerge. You are welcome.

    http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2016/07/ohio_states_jt_barrett_michiga.html There's a Big Ten Media poll on the preseason to Defensive and Offensive players in the B1G. Having the #1, #5 and #7 player on the defensive list is leading people to think we'll have an elite defensive. That is leading into the title hype (which I still think is too soon)

    JT Barrett pretty much sliced and diced that defense up last year...to the tune of 42-13. Weren't #1, #5 and #7 on that team? Not so elite...so, yea, it is a lot way to soon for any title hype. (but, sure...EZ E won't be there this year...and he mauled that defense as well)

    I'm not sure what else there would be. Nothing has happened since the original odds came out. We just had satellite camps everywhere.

    I'm not talking about the team performance, just the draft class. We'll have more draft eligible people that are good enough to be drafted. Mainly because of the amount that left last year for you.

    Two things. Are LBs weren't very good and we were missing our great NT. That heled and already elite running game destroy us. Also our DC at the time (Durkin) was terrible against the spread. Look at our games leading up to that and it's easy to see. We were wavering before that.

    This year's defense returns everyone but those LBs for the most part, and we get the NT back. Plus Peppers gets another year under his belt. Plus our new DC coached the #1 D in the country at BC last season. Now he gets more talent to work with

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • Din TUN fire last year's DC?

  • The GipperT The Gipper

    Din TUN fire last year's DC?

    @the-gipper said:

    Din TUN fire last year's DC?

    No he's the HC at Maryland now

    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!

  • With today's parity in all sports especially NCAA D-1 preseason polls are long shots at best maybe with the exception of some of the really elite schools which might have a chance to make it all the way.

    And there are a lot of places for game lines and futures, one I like is http://www.vegasinsider.com/

    (8/18/2016) - ODDS TO WIN 2016 COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME (1/11/17)

    Team Odds

    Alabama 11/2

    Ohio State 15/2 <------

    Clemson 17/2

    Florida State 10/1

    LSU 10/1

    Michigan 12/1 <----

    Oklahoma 12/1

    Tennessee 14/1

    Notre Dame 22/1

    USC 25/1

    TCU 35/1

    Washington 35/1

    Iowa 40/1 <----

    So there you go. ......

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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