Bosa
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The Chargers believe they're the only team in the NFL.
Clearly some of you still haven't read the initial underlying issue.
Hell, didn't the cowboys Twitter even weigh in on this? It's the same team that couldn't get Rivers signed until training camp was almost over.
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The Chargers believe they're the only team in the NFL.
Clearly some of you still haven't read the initial underlying issue.
Hell, didn't the cowboys Twitter even weigh in on this? It's the same team that couldn't get Rivers signed until training camp was almost over.
The Chargers believe they're the only team in the NFL.
Clearly some of you still haven't read the initial underlying issue.
Hell, didn't the cowboys Twitter even weigh in on this? It's the same team that couldn't get Rivers signed until training camp was almost over.
The simple answer is that I thought he was a schmuck looooong before this holdout......and for me, it confirms what I already thought about him....
But, I did read it and here is what the Chargers offered....
1) Largest bonus of any NFL player(rookie or vet) for the last 2 years....(but its not enough)
2) More money his first season than any other rookie, less Carson Wentz......(yet he wants more, now)
3) Highest bonus and largest initial payment than the Chargers have ever payed anyone...(but, hey, its not him, its the cheapo chargers)
Sooo....to my eyes.....he's being difficult and greedy......let him walk and re-enter the draft....then fall back and this will all start again...
The Chargers are about to withdraw their offer and start deducting, because he now cannot give them properly prepared for 16 game season.....
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The Chargers believe they're the only team in the NFL.
Clearly some of you still haven't read the initial underlying issue.
Hell, didn't the cowboys Twitter even weigh in on this? It's the same team that couldn't get Rivers signed until training camp was almost over.
The simple answer is that I thought he was a schmuck looooong before this holdout......and for me, it confirms what I already thought about him....
But, I did read it and here is what the Chargers offered....
1) Largest bonus of any NFL player(rookie or vet) for the last 2 years....(but its not enough)
2) More money his first season than any other rookie, less Carson Wentz......(yet he wants more, now)
3) Highest bonus and largest initial payment than the Chargers have ever payed anyone...(but, hey, its not him, its the cheapo chargers)
Sooo....to my eyes.....he's being difficult and greedy......let him walk and re-enter the draft....then fall back and this will all start again...
The Chargers are about to withdraw their offer and start deducting, because he now cannot give them properly prepared for 16 game season.....
The simple answer is that I thought he was a schmuck looooong before this holdout......and for me, it confirms what I already thought about him....
But, I did read it and here is what the Chargers offered....
1) Largest bonus of any NFL player(rookie or vet) for the last 2 years....
2) More money his first season than any other rookie, less Carson Wentz......(yet he wants more, now)
3) Highest bonus and largest initial payment than the Chargers have ever payed anyone...
Sooo....to my eyes.....he's beiung difficult and greedy......let him walk and re-enter the draft....then fall back and this will all start again...
The Chargers are about to withdraw their offer and start deducting, because he now cannot give them properly prepared for 16 game season.....
Phrasing. More money than any rookie they've drafted under the new CBA. Please go look at where the chargers have drafted then get back to me. You simply don't accept 18th money if you're the 3rd overall pick.
Nevermind the bad prescident it can set.
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The simple answer is that I thought he was a schmuck looooong before this holdout......and for me, it confirms what I already thought about him....
But, I did read it and here is what the Chargers offered....
1) Largest bonus of any NFL player(rookie or vet) for the last 2 years....
2) More money his first season than any other rookie, less Carson Wentz......(yet he wants more, now)
3) Highest bonus and largest initial payment than the Chargers have ever payed anyone...
Sooo....to my eyes.....he's beiung difficult and greedy......let him walk and re-enter the draft....then fall back and this will all start again...
The Chargers are about to withdraw their offer and start deducting, because he now cannot give them properly prepared for 16 game season.....
Phrasing. More money than any rookie they've drafted under the new CBA. Please go look at where the chargers have drafted then get back to me. You simply don't accept 18th money if you're the 3rd overall pick.
Nevermind the bad prescident it can set.
Phrasing. More money than any rookie they've drafted under the new CBA. Please go look at where the chargers have drafted then get back to me. You simply don't accept 18th money if you're the 3rd overall pick.
Nevermind the bad prescident it can set.
I haven't heard that he got offered #18 money....since the CBA, there is more or less a scale for 1st rounders and he's being paid on that established scale.....and the bonuses offered are as described(better than most)...
None the less.....it's his pay.....but Im not gonna sit here and feel bad for the only guy in the NFL who didnt sign cause he wants it all now......(its not the overall amount thats the issue, its that he has part of his bonus deferred and it wants it all now)...
But whatever, you can feel sorry for him if youd like and the unfair treatment he is getting....honestly dont care one iota about Bosa, the Chargers or his silly contract.....like I said.....just glad he aint here disrupting our team...dont like him and never did.....
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Oh I don't feel sorry, but we're talking about a team that's had close to 50% of their top picks of the last 15 years on extended holdouts.
The consistency the Bolts speak of certainly doesnt hold water within their own franchise.
Voices around the NFL generally agree it's the Chargers on the piss poor side of things. I tend to think there has to be some truth to that.
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From what I've read Bosa wants all of his bonus money up front, but the Bolts are only offering him 85% with the remaining 15% payable in March. If he chooses to sit out the year...well that pays him nothing.
But I digress, he was a dick before he was drafted.
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Here it is spelled out....its about all of his bonus....now.....and 4-5th year language that would force them to pay those years, even if he's a bust and gets cut....I say play well and earn a bigger contract.....and if you suck and get cut, then you shouldnt be paid millions.....but thats me....
Why hasn’t Bosa signed?The impasse between Bosa and the Chargers centers around a failure to agree on offset language and Bosa’s signing bonus deferment.
The current collective bargaining agreement made negotiating with rookies a bit easier for NFL teams, but offset language remains a sticking point, and it certainly is a huge factor for the Chargers in this situation.
All contracts for rookies selected in the first round of the NFL draft under the current CBA cover four years with a choice for teams to pick up the fifth-year option, extending the rookie contract one season. Teams want offset language included in case they decide to cut a player in his fourth season. Without offset language, the player is entitled to all of the money his original team was supposed to pay in his fourth season, and he can sign a new contract with another team and also earn all of that money.
A lack of offset language essentially allows a player to double dip and earn money from two teams. If there’s offset language included in the contract, it lets the original team off the hook. Obviously, the Chargers want offset language, and Bosa doesn’t.
The other issue, signing bonus deferment, is very simple. Bosa wants his signing bonus now. The team would prefer to spread it out over time. Bosa’s camp has repeatedly expressed a willingness to compromise and accept either the offset language or the signing bonus deferral, but the Chargers appear unwilling to budge.
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bosa was and is overrated IMO....
BUT i believe in someone getting paid....
BUT there is always a way to do things that don't make you look like a bigger schmuck than you are. go to camp. do your work. put your head down and shut up. if your agent is worth anything, you are going to get paid. might be the agent you need to look at.
now if he does go to camp or does sign, his team mates are going to hate him. bad biz decisions so far.
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And if he goes to camp unsigned then ends up pulling a Dante Fowler? Which is increasingly common among these rookies for some reason.
Mud - now take that bonus and offset language and compare it other top 5 contracts.
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Bosa is being a primadonna here. The media tries to push it like he was getting paid like a 3rd round draft pick while the chargers just want to protect themselves. I've also heard Bosa talk bad about cleveland, and the kid honestly seems like a spoiled brat. He thinks he can come in the NFL and own, when he's going to get knocked on his ass. So happy we didn't take him.
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Here it is spelled out....its about all of his bonus....now.....and 4-5th year language that would force them to pay those years, even if he's a bust and gets cut....I say play well and earn a bigger contract.....and if you suck and get cut, then you shouldnt be paid millions.....but thats me....
Why hasn’t Bosa signed?The impasse between Bosa and the Chargers centers around a failure to agree on offset language and Bosa’s signing bonus deferment.
The current collective bargaining agreement made negotiating with rookies a bit easier for NFL teams, but offset language remains a sticking point, and it certainly is a huge factor for the Chargers in this situation.
All contracts for rookies selected in the first round of the NFL draft under the current CBA cover four years with a choice for teams to pick up the fifth-year option, extending the rookie contract one season. Teams want offset language included in case they decide to cut a player in his fourth season. Without offset language, the player is entitled to all of the money his original team was supposed to pay in his fourth season, and he can sign a new contract with another team and also earn all of that money.
A lack of offset language essentially allows a player to double dip and earn money from two teams. If there’s offset language included in the contract, it lets the original team off the hook. Obviously, the Chargers want offset language, and Bosa doesn’t.
The other issue, signing bonus deferment, is very simple. Bosa wants his signing bonus now. The team would prefer to spread it out over time. Bosa’s camp has repeatedly expressed a willingness to compromise and accept either the offset language or the signing bonus deferral, but the Chargers appear unwilling to budge.
Here it is spelled out....its about all of his bonus....now.....and 4-5th year language that would force them to pay those years, even if he's a bust and gets cut....I say play well and earn a bigger contract.....and if you suck and get cut, then you shouldnt be paid millions.....but thats me....
Why hasn’t Bosa signed?The impasse between Bosa and the Chargers centers around a failure to agree on offset language and Bosa’s signing bonus deferment.
The current collective bargaining agreement made negotiating with rookies a bit easier for NFL teams, but offset language remains a sticking point, and it certainly is a huge factor for the Chargers in this situation.
All contracts for rookies selected in the first round of the NFL draft under the current CBA cover four years with a choice for teams to pick up the fifth-year option, extending the rookie contract one season. Teams want offset language included in case they decide to cut a player in his fourth season. Without offset language, the player is entitled to all of the money his original team was supposed to pay in his fourth season, and he can sign a new contract with another team and also earn all of that money.
A lack of offset language essentially allows a player to double dip and earn money from two teams. If there’s offset language included in the contract, it lets the original team off the hook. Obviously, the Chargers want offset language, and Bosa doesn’t.
The other issue, signing bonus deferment, is very simple. Bosa wants his signing bonus now. The team would prefer to spread it out over time. Bosa’s camp has repeatedly expressed a willingness to compromise and accept either the offset language or the signing bonus deferral, but the Chargers appear unwilling to budge.
Everything I had heard prior to the above was pointed to an "either or" standoff... either the bonus guarantee or the offset. And every top ten(?) pick has received "either or" under the current CBA.
As for his "talent"... SD's judgement was clear. They just did not want to pay the going rate for it.
Just how I see it.
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First off there is no possibility for a trade, that ended on the 9th so stop it. I wont lie i dont understand this contract shit whatsoever nor do i want to. But from everything ive read bosa's agent isnt asking one iota more than any other 1st round pick for years. The way i heard it described is that the chargers are setting up another team to take on a portion of that bonus if he werent to wotk out in SD. But if that happens thats on SD not another team.
So basically this is all on SD. I heard a guy on the radio say bosa looked "very" good in his mini so theres no reason why SD is fucking around with him. If he goes back in the draft i would absolutely want the browns to consider him. Evidently he looked very good standing up or down, it didnt matter. Kruger will probably be gone next year so yeah why wouldnt we look at bosa "IF" he's cool coming here. Id straight up ask him look if u dont like cleveland thats fine we wont draft you.
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If he was cool with coming to clev, than fuck yeah put that mook on our edge
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The 4 man fronts we could run with bosa and nassib....
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SD has had trouble with many of their first round picks in the last several decades.. Of course this is all SD, it's the owner trying to be cheap even though he's one of the richest men in the world.
Bosa offered to give either offset or their ridiculous bonus payment plan -- which is entirely SD, it's not at all normal. The offset language is normal.
The point is that the contract everyone else signs is all the bonus immediately plus the offset language... which has always been COMPLETELY acceptable to Bosa.
SD is just trying to get a couple thousand dollars extra in some investment of theirs by holding on to 15% of his bonus a little longer.. that's what this is all about. It doesn't even mean anything to Spanos and the team in terms of actual overall money return -- it's simply their way of twisting the knife and demonstrating power.
In conclusion, you go, Joey Bosa. Yes, seriously.
Chargers have been a blight on the NFL's employer-labor relationship for decades and deserve to lose him.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
So glad we didnt draft this schmuck......
Didn't draft him, but would still trade for him. Our DL needs help....and likely no one we would likely get in next year's draft would be as good of a prospect as he is. ...unless maybe the Browns are "lucky" enough to snatch the #1 overall pick.
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The 4 man fronts we could run with bosa and nassib....
The 4 man fronts we could run with bosa and nassib....
Bosa would replace Carl for the most part. Joey has also shown greater lower body strength and leverage with the ability to shade inside a bit (see, 2015 season)
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