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  • hx214H hx214

    I still don't understand this story. I wonder if the whole thing will ever come to light.

    @hx214 said:

    I still don't understand this story. I wonder if the whole thing will ever come to light.

    Here are the cliffs notes...

    Kwaun had pain in his ankle

    Browns Dr's looked at it and said he was fine

    He said he wanted time off for a second opinion

    The Browns said no and added him to a game roster

    He declined to play due to pain

    The Browns fined and suspended him

    He left camp to go to Washington and see another doctor

    Doctor said he needed surgery

    The Browns cut him

    The Bears signed him

    The Bears Dr's looked and said he needed surgery

    confirming Kwauns original concerns.....

    so, the Browns wanted him to play with the injury and then suspended him for taking his own health into his own hands...

    Nice!.....way to treat your players guys.....

    The GipperT 1 Reply

  • So he'll be perfectly healed around week 2,3 -- and then he'll sign a FA deal with some team. Perhaps the Panthers considering street FA's started games for them last season, and they will roster 2 rookie UDFA's..

    CB needs that ankle more than just about any other position bc quickness is the required athletic trait

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    So he'll be perfectly healed around week 2,3 -- and then he'll sign a FA deal with some team. Perhaps the Panthers considering street FA's started games for them last season, and they will roster 2 rookie UDFA's..

    CB needs that ankle more than just about any other position bc quickness is the required athletic trait

    @unsympathetic said:

    So he'll be perfectly healed around week 2,3 -- and then he'll sign a FA deal with some team. Perhaps the Panthers considering street FA's started games for them last season, and they will roster 2 rookie UDFA's..

    CB needs that ankle more than just about any other position bc quickness is the required athletic trait

    Dr. Hoorta chimes in. Um, depends where the bone spurs are- and it sure as hell won't be three weeks. He has the surgery now- done for the year. Maybe that's why the Browns were balking. Put him on IR- pay him for the year, and then he walks? Lose\ lose proposition. Below is a quote from someone who had the surgery, and from one of my co-workers that had the same, it sounds about right.

    "I had a bone spur under my Achilles tendon that was insertional Achilles tendinosis. I had the surgery done in December and by the end of February I was able to walk a bit. I had to use a walker for a few weeks, then a cane. I was on a knee scooter after my surgery with absolutely no weight bearing at all. That is probably the hardest part of this surgery. It took a year before all the pain was resolved, but now that foot is much better."

  • We should be on the hook for his surgery IMO. And then he's a free agent and healthy next year.

    Z

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    @hx214 said:

    I still don't understand this story. I wonder if the whole thing will ever come to light.

    Here are the cliffs notes...

    Kwaun had pain in his ankle

    Browns Dr's looked at it and said he was fine

    He said he wanted time off for a second opinion

    The Browns said no and added him to a game roster

    He declined to play due to pain

    The Browns fined and suspended him

    He left camp to go to Washington and see another doctor

    Doctor said he needed surgery

    The Browns cut him

    The Bears signed him

    The Bears Dr's looked and said he needed surgery

    confirming Kwauns original concerns.....

    so, the Browns wanted him to play with the injury and then suspended him for taking his own health into his own hands...

    Nice!.....way to treat your players guys.....

    @mudfly said:

    Here are the cliffs notes...

    Kwaun had pain in his ankle

    Browns Dr's looked at it and said he was fine

    He said he wanted time off for a second opinion

    The Browns said no and added him to a game roster

    He declined to play due to pain

    The Browns fined and suspended him

    He left camp to go to Washington and see another doctor

    Doctor said he needed surgery

    The Browns cut him

    The Bears signed him

    The Bears Dr's looked and said he needed surgery

    confirming Kwauns original concerns.....

    so, the Browns wanted him to play with the injury and then suspended him for taking his own health into his own hands...

    Nice!.....way to treat your players guys.....

    OK, seems to be an issue. That is why I think there is more to the story than just the medical issue. I think he had a personality conflict with either the DC or the HC. You didn't see Hue giving the same regretful statements about Kwan as he did about Kruger.

  • "More to the story" = "stood up for himself"???

    Could just be that simple...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    "More to the story" = "stood up for himself"???

    Could just be that simple...

    @tour2ma said:

    "More to the story" = "stood up for himself"???

    Could just be that simple...

    No....more than that. Maybe this regime just thought he was expendable.

    Maybe they just saw more of what they wanted to see out of Charles Gaines, Tracy Howard, Trey Caldwell...whom they drafted....and even.....dare I say it......Justin Gilbert?

  • Thanks, hoorta.. that definitely puts a new spin on the interpretation of the Browns move!

    This should be a CBA issue IMHO.. Kwaun surely isn't the first to be cut because he had the temerity to stand up for his wanting not to play through a condition needing surgery -- because he simply would not be himself if on the field, and thus he'd be cut "for play" even though the reason he couldn't perform was because of the condition..

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • U Unsympathetic

    Thanks, hoorta.. that definitely puts a new spin on the interpretation of the Browns move!

    This should be a CBA issue IMHO.. Kwaun surely isn't the first to be cut because he had the temerity to stand up for his wanting not to play through a condition needing surgery -- because he simply would not be himself if on the field, and thus he'd be cut "for play" even though the reason he couldn't perform was because of the condition..

    @unsympathetic said:

    Thanks, hoorta.. that definitely puts a new spin on the interpretation of the Browns move!

    This should be a CBA issue IMHO.. Kwaun surely isn't the first to be cut because he had the temerity to stand up for his wanting not to play through a condition needing surgery -- because he simply would not be himself if on the field, and thus he'd be cut "for play" even though the reason he couldn't perform was because of the condition..

    He has the right to file a grievance if he wants.

  • I'm wondering if he got hurt over the summer, and didn't tell the Browns until

    late, to avoid training camp and some games or something, and still get paid...,...

    the Browns dr.'s may have seen that it wasn't a new injury.

    I don't know - but something isn't right with his story.

  • That's something that develops over time and use. It's not really an injury like a sprain but it can be painful and cause damage to surounding tissue.

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