Thoughts on the defensive front from tonights game and holy shit Nassib looks legit..
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The problem there Z is- we rebooted a few years back with Farmer, before that Savage, before that..... Notice a trend? Yup,every time we have a regime change it's always sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows- until around week 5, or sooner. If you want to think it's all going to be different this time around, be my guest. I want to see concrete proof of improvement in the regular season before I get pumped up- not just to be let down yet again by overly optimistic expectations.
So what have I seen so far? Hue may be the best coach the Browns have hired in like forever. RG III looks competent- if he can stay healthy. Having Coleman, Gordon and Pryor is a vast improvement over what we had last year at WR. On defense, it looks like Ogbah and Nassib can play. The rest of the defense? It sucks pretty bad. Zero run defense, and near zero pressure on opposing qbs.
The O better score a ton of points- because to this point we're running the tissue paper defense.
Thank you, Leslie Gore.
Tissue paper defense. We will need that because its Hue's party and he'll cry if he wants to, cry if he wants to...(and we will all need that tissue paper)
To the fans of all other teams: You would cry to if this defense happened to you.
Thank you, Leslie Gore.
Tissue paper defense. We will need that because its Hue's party and he'll cry if he wants to, cry if he wants to...(and we will all need that tissue paper)
To the fans of all other teams: You would cry to if this defense happened to you.
LOL Gip,Classic.
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I'm 100% Irish American motherfucker.A hairy greek talkin about dicks. Man ur breakin all the stereotypes tonite Z.
Put down ur Amstel lite and ouzo and go take a nap.
You are are about as good at analyzing my heritage and drinks of choice as you are at analyzing these young Browns.
Bitter Beer Face Mix sitting in a dive bar shitting on everything ... It's a good look.
Z
Zombo said:
100% Irish American motherfucker.
isn't 100% irish american motherfucker an oxymoron?
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Thank you, Leslie Gore.
Tissue paper defense. We will need that because its Hue's party and he'll cry if he wants to, cry if he wants to...(and we will all need that tissue paper)
To the fans of all other teams: You would cry to if this defense happened to you.
LOL Gip,Classic.
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Zombo said:
100% Irish American motherfucker.
isn't 100% irish american motherfucker an oxymoron?
isn't 100% irish american motherfucker an oxymoron?
Maybe he meant 100% Irish American mother fucker i.e. he only fucks Irish American mothers.
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Maybe he meant 100% Irish American mother fucker i.e. he only fucks Irish American mothers.
I love Irish American women.
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The Browns aren't drafting big names in round 1. They act like they are trying to find a big steal instead of just drafting the sure-bet defensive players they need.
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The Browns aren't drafting big names in round 1. They act like they are trying to find a big steal instead of just drafting the sure-bet defensive players they need.
The Browns aren't drafting big names in round 1. They act like they are trying to find a big steal instead of just drafting the sure-bet defensive players they need.
Problem is, that when they have drafted the sure bets, they turned out to be bad bets. So, it hasn't mattered either way.
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Finished watching the 2nd half vs. the Falcons and it is clear that in run-pass situations, Nassib is a liability... for now.
Strictly passing situations as part of a package? Different story... at least as long as he is on the edge. Inside? Not so much...
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The Browns aren't drafting big names in round 1. They act like they are trying to find a big steal instead of just drafting the sure-bet defensive players they need.
Problem is, that when they have drafted the sure bets, they turned out to be bad bets. So, it hasn't mattered either way.
Problem is, that when they have drafted the sure bets, they turned out to be bad bets. So, it hasn't mattered either way.
Yep, I don't think you can find anyone who didn't love the Danny pick, and so far, he's hovering dangerously close to the mendoza/bust line. He was supposed to transform our defense the day he stepped on the field, and I'm still waiting for Optimus Prime to show up...... Hell, I'll even settle for Bumble Bee.
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love the shelton pick. one player cannot alone fix the prob we have on DL. he needs some help and i don't know that he has enough of it.
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love the shelton pick. one player cannot alone fix the prob we have on DL. he needs some help and i don't know that he has enough of it.
love the shelton pick. one player cannot alone fix the prob we have on DL. he needs some help and i don't know that he has enough of it.
Loved the pick too and I agree that a single player can't turn a putrid defense into a good one, but I expected waaaay more out of Danny than what I've seen so far. I hoped he would look stronger with the weight he lost, but instead he looks even flabbier and still doesn't have that NFL strength that others have.
I like Danny and hope he develops into what I thought he would be for us on draft day and there's still plenty of time, but such as is the NFL, the clock is ticking.
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Danny had some good moments where he held the point and flowed well laterally.
He also had a couple moments that show room for growth.
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When you lose a lot of weight, of course you look flabbier. I've seen him up close and talked to him.
He does not look flabby - he's still a big kid. You watch him in practice - I'm tellin ya he can MOVE.
He's a NT, it isn't a glamour position of great stats. On one play, I saw him, in an exhibition game, forget which one,
he took on a blocker to the right, disposed of him, and went over center, and drove him straight back towards the qb
about 4-5 feet before the qb threw it away.
The Browns are still moving personel around, trying a lot of things. Not worried at all - it will come together.
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Finished watching the 2nd half vs. the Falcons and it is clear that in run-pass situations, Nassib is a liability... for now.
Strictly passing situations as part of a package? Different story... at least as long as he is on the edge. Inside? Not so much...
Finished watching the 2nd half vs. the Falcons and it is clear that in run-pass situations, Nassib is a liability... for now.
Strictly passing situations as part of a package? Different story... at least as long as he is on the edge. Inside? Not so much...
He's not the Bennett, Watt, Bosa, Hayes, Tuck type of end that will align outside in your base, then shade a guard inside. He doesn't have the lower body strength, explosion and counter move for that.
With the strength will come explosion and pad level, coaching and time - the counter move. Either way, at 6'6, he's not going to be your interior player on early downs and running situations. He's not built for that and few
players that tall are. In time, I would like to see him become that kind of player. Especially with all the four man fronts we'll be playing.
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Finished watching the 2nd half vs. the Falcons and it is clear that in run-pass situations, Nassib is a liability... for now.
Strictly passing situations as part of a package? Different story... at least as long as he is on the edge. Inside? Not so much...
He's not the Bennett, Watt, Bosa, Hayes, Tuck type of end that will align outside in your base, then shade a guard inside. He doesn't have the lower body strength, explosion and counter move for that.
With the strength will come explosion and pad level, coaching and time - the counter move. Either way, at 6'6, he's not going to be your interior player on early downs and running situations. He's not built for that and few
players that tall are. In time, I would like to see him become that kind of player. Especially with all the four man fronts we'll be playing.
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Nassib will grow into a force. Couple years in an nfl weightroom just watch. His toolset is there, his deficiencies rigjt now stem mainly from the strength gap between him and vet nfl lineman. That will close
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