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NFL Dropping the "Probable" Classification for Injury Reports

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  • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    The three remaining are "out", "doubtful" and "questionable".

    Supposedly it's a Fantasy driven change....

    http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/21/12575940/nfl-injury-report-probable-designation-removed

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      D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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      Good news....... We're all "probable".

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        The three remaining are "out", "doubtful" and "questionable".

        Supposedly it's a Fantasy driven change....

        http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/21/12575940/nfl-injury-report-probable-designation-removed

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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        @tour2ma said:

        The three remaining are "out", "doubtful" and "questionable".

        Supposedly it's a Fantasy driven change....

        http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/21/12575940/nfl-injury-report-probable-designation-removed

        In reality, they should have kept probable and eliminated either doubtful or questionable. Tell me, what is the difference between doubtful and questionable?

        Why don't they just have one of these as well. Synonyms for Questionable.

        adj doubtful, uncertain
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          Or These synonyms for doubtful:

          dj questionable, unclear
          • indecisivestar
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          • precariousstar
          • dubiousstar
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          • inconclusivestar
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            D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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            From past experience there is a huge difference between doubtful and questionable, whereas probable meant playing 99% of the time. Doubtful almost always means out and questionable seems more like 70% playing.

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              From past experience there is a huge difference between doubtful and questionable, whereas probable meant playing 99% of the time. Doubtful almost always means out and questionable seems more like 70% playing.

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              mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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              @d-bone said:

              From past experience there is a huge difference between doubtful and questionable, whereas probable meant playing 99% of the time. Doubtful almost always means out and questionable seems more like 70% playing.

              I thought they had a (maybe unofficial official) graded percent scale on the various classifications. I know for a fact in FLs most or many doubtful players were likely to go OUT by game time and probable were likely to see some if not all of the game. And questionable? Who knows.

              ......unless you are the NE coach and can make up your own rules, lol.

              Still I guess we'll get used to the new system and see what the NE coach comes up with next.

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                mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
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                Here's the old system......

                Identifying Players

                Teams are required to list on the injury report any player who might not play in the next game because of health reasons. They also are to list the area of the injury--such as "shoulder" or "leg"--but they need not specify the nature or severity of the injury. In practice, however, teams are incredibly circumspect. As noted by USA Today in a 2007 analysis, teams coached by Bill Parcells rarely listed a player unless he was totally unable to play. At the other extreme, the New England Patriots put quarterback Tom Brady on the list every week for more than two years--and he started every one of those game. Former Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher admitted he would sometimes misidentify the location of an injury--putting down "knee" instead of "ankle," for example--to prevent opposing teams from targeting that player's injury if he played.

                Classifying Players

                The report must classify every player on the list as "out," "doubtful," "questionable" or "probable." According to league guidelines, when a player is listed as "probable," he's more likely to play than not play. "Questionable" players are those with a 50-50 chance of playing. If there's a 75 percent chance a player will not play, he is "doubtful." And a player who's "out" will definitely not play.

                Deadline

                Each team must submit its injury list to league headquarters the Friday before each game and update the list on the weekend as needed.

                Sanctions

                The league office can fine teams for filing inaccurate injury reports. For example, the NFL fined the New York Jets, their general manager and their former coach $125,000 for hiding that quarterback Brett Favre played with a torn tendon late in the 2008 season--an injury that came to light only after Favre told reporters about it. Still, injury-report fines are rare. USA Today's analysis turned up just 13 in a 10-year period.

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                  From past experience there is a huge difference between doubtful and questionable, whereas probable meant playing 99% of the time. Doubtful almost always means out and questionable seems more like 70% playing.

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                  jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                  @d-bone said:

                  From past experience there is a huge difference between doubtful and questionable, whereas probable meant playing 99% of the time. Doubtful almost always means out and questionable seems more like 70% playing.

                  This is it in a nutshell. The only time I can remember in my whole NFL viewing life where someone was probable only to not play was actually Joe Haden one time with a foot. Didn't they investigate that or something?

                  Either way, it was a useless designation because you were playing if you're probable. I actually like it because it makes it simpler in a way.

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