Schefter reports Gilbert traded....
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We paid too much for Gilbert as a first rounder. The Steelers got him for peanuts (which is what I think he is worth). At least we got something for him and there is an off chance a new environment for Gilbert may turn him around. I don't think it will happen but for as little as the Steelers had to give for him it seems like it was worth it from their point of view to take a chance with him.
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Hell, it is going to take a hell of a lot more than just a "change of scenery" to bet Gilbert motivated to play football.
Now, I suppose the one thing that this trade may do to him is to cause him to mature. Maturity is his biggest problem. Being cut and thrown out on the street may have actually been better for him.....but being traded for a 6th round pick may also be a bitch slap to his face....which is a lot of what he needs. 50/50 on whether it will work.
Frankly I don't care about him or what he needs any more and hope his move fails miserably because he's inside the division still.
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We paid too much for Gilbert as a first rounder. The Steelers got him for peanuts (which is what I think he is worth). At least we got something for him and there is an off chance a new environment for Gilbert may turn him around. I don't think it will happen but for as little as the Steelers had to give for him it seems like it was worth it from their point of view to take a chance with him.
We paid too much for Gilbert as a first rounder. The Steelers got him for peanuts (which is what I think he is worth). At least we got something for him and there is an off chance a new environment for Gilbert may turn him around. I don't think it will happen but for as little as the Steelers had to give for him it seems like it was worth it from their point of view to take a chance with him.
hmmm, let's see....
mike tomlin talkin to you OR hue jackson talking to you.
which one makes you laugh thinking about it?
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We paid too much for Gilbert as a first rounder. The Steelers got him for peanuts (which is what I think he is worth). At least we got something for him and there is an off chance a new environment for Gilbert may turn him around. I don't think it will happen but for as little as the Steelers had to give for him it seems like it was worth it from their point of view to take a chance with him.
hmmm, let's see....
mike tomlin talkin to you OR hue jackson talking to you.
which one makes you laugh thinking about it?
hmmm, let's see....
mike tomlin talkin to you OR hue jackson talking to you.
which one makes you laugh thinking about it?
LOL
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LOL
You either have it in you to be an NFL player or not. Gilbert didn't show much as a Brown and the only thing Tomlin may accomplish is an early exit for Gilbert with the Steelers.
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
It will take more than a culture change to change Gilbert. It will take a personality change. It could happen. He needs maturity. Can he get it there? Who knows....and at this point we don't really care. We hope he continues to suck the way he did here.
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
It will take more than a culture change to change Gilbert. It will take a personality change. It could happen. He needs maturity. Can he get it there? Who knows....and at this point we don't really care. We hope he continues to suck the way he did here.
It will take more than a culture change to change Gilbert. It will take a personality change. It could happen. He needs maturity. Can he get it there? Who knows....and at this point we don't really care. We hope he continues to suck the way he did here.
I was really impressed with him in a recent interview and weve had success with cockrell another cb cast off the front office liked in the draft. As i said zero expectations but im curious to see how he does like most people.
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
Enjoy week 1 cunts.
something new on the menu @ primanti's?
a change from the week 16 cocks ur used to?
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out.
He gave a couple good interviews in CLE each of the past two years as well.
Forget the good examples... as I told one of your brethren locker him next to Harrison.
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
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Hey "fellers" hope the offseason hasnt treated you poorly and based on this thread most were happy to get something for gilbert. My stance is this, i have no expectations for gilbert BUT instead guarded optimism that a culture change will alter his approach to the game. The Browns are turning a corner but havent really instilled much optimism in a long time. Gilbert fell from grace and pretty much got cut, similar to santonio holmes with us BUT Santonio obviously performed. I think being around guys like William Gay, Ross Cockrell who was a 4th round castoff of the bills and is now starting for us and certainly guys like Antonio Brown who is probably the hardest working player in the nfl will alter his approach. If Gilbert is terrible it was a 6th but if he turns it around what a bargain. I will say at the very least he impressed me in his interviews, he doesnt seem like an idiot. I guess we'll find out. Enjoy week 1 cunts.
It will take more than a culture change to change Gilbert. It will take a personality change. It could happen. He needs maturity. Can he get it there? Who knows....and at this point we don't really care. We hope he continues to suck the way he did here.
Yes at this point, goes without saying... but that'll change quickly should Gibson become the player that everyone thought he should be...a lotta bitchin gonna be goin on!....and at this point we don't really care
That said, the probability of that happening is low...cant recall a high draft pick released or traded by the browns due to poor performance go on to be a stud elsewhere... Gerard Warren and Trent Richardson are two examples, gotta be a bunch more.
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something new on the menu @ primanti's?
a change from the week 16 cocks ur used to?
There was for our stanley cup championship. You love me mik, its okay to drop the routine.
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Yes at this point, goes without saying... but that'll change quickly should Gibson become the player that everyone thought he should be...a lotta bitchin gonna be goin on!....and at this point we don't really care
That said, the probability of that happening is low...cant recall a high draft pick released or traded by the browns due to poor performance go on to be a stud elsewhere... Gerard Warren and Trent Richardson are two examples, gotta be a bunch more.
Yes at this point, goes without saying... but that'll change quickly should Gibson become the player that everyone thought he should be...a lotta bitchin gonna be goin on!
Gibson? You mean Gilbert?
That said, the probability of that happening is low...cant recall a high draft pick released or traded by the browns due to poor performance go on to be a stud elsewhere... Gerard Warren and Trent Richardson are two examples, gotta be a bunch more.
Warren and Wimbley....well lets just say they had some tenure after leaving the Browns. Neither were studs by any means.
And where are you going with TR? He pretty much sucked. Released by Colts/Ravens.
(a few good players left the Browns via FA....TJ Ward, Sheard....but I don't think that is what we are talking about)
No, it really is true that the Browns drafted bad talent. Proven after they left.
OK, maybe Gilbert has the chance to be the first one to improve his lot.
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Yes at this point, goes without saying... but that'll change quickly should Gibson become the player that everyone thought he should be...a lotta bitchin gonna be goin on!
Gibson? You mean Gilbert?
That said, the probability of that happening is low...cant recall a high draft pick released or traded by the browns due to poor performance go on to be a stud elsewhere... Gerard Warren and Trent Richardson are two examples, gotta be a bunch more.
Warren and Wimbley....well lets just say they had some tenure after leaving the Browns. Neither were studs by any means.
And where are you going with TR? He pretty much sucked. Released by Colts/Ravens.
(a few good players left the Browns via FA....TJ Ward, Sheard....but I don't think that is what we are talking about)
No, it really is true that the Browns drafted bad talent. Proven after they left.
OK, maybe Gilbert has the chance to be the first one to improve his lot.
Yes at this point, goes without saying... but that'll change quickly should Gibson become the player that everyone thought he should be...a lotta bitchin gonna be goin on!
Gibson? You mean Gilbert?
That said, the probability of that happening is low...cant recall a high draft pick released or traded by the browns due to poor performance go on to be a stud elsewhere... Gerard Warren and Trent Richardson are two examples, gotta be a bunch more.
Warren and Wimbley....well lets just say they had some tenure after leaving the Browns. Neither were studs by any means.
And where are you going with TR? He pretty much sucked. Released by Colts/Ravens.
(a few good players left the Browns via FA....TJ Ward, Sheard....but I don't think that is what we are talking about)
No, it really is true that the Browns drafted bad talent. Proven after they left.
OK, maybe Gilbert has the chance to be the first one to improve his lot.
Lol Gibson.
I'm not goin anywhere with TR, just throwing out a couple names that were either busts or not that great with the browns, and pretty much ended up that way with other teams.
Hoping Gibso...er Gilberts fate will be the exception and not the norm!
You're right, Ward and Sheard aren't even in the conversation. They have talent. Especially Ward. The dude can hit. Should be a Steeler.
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Yes at this point, goes without saying... but that'll change quickly should Gibson become the player that everyone thought he should be...a lotta bitchin gonna be goin on!
Gibson? You mean Gilbert?
That said, the probability of that happening is low...cant recall a high draft pick released or traded by the browns due to poor performance go on to be a stud elsewhere... Gerard Warren and Trent Richardson are two examples, gotta be a bunch more.
Warren and Wimbley....well lets just say they had some tenure after leaving the Browns. Neither were studs by any means.
And where are you going with TR? He pretty much sucked. Released by Colts/Ravens.
(a few good players left the Browns via FA....TJ Ward, Sheard....but I don't think that is what we are talking about)
No, it really is true that the Browns drafted bad talent. Proven after they left.
OK, maybe Gilbert has the chance to be the first one to improve his lot.
Lol Gibson.
I'm not goin anywhere with TR, just throwing out a couple names that were either busts or not that great with the browns, and pretty much ended up that way with other teams.
Hoping Gibso...er Gilberts fate will be the exception and not the norm!
You're right, Ward and Sheard aren't even in the conversation. They have talent. Especially Ward. The dude can hit. Should be a Steeler.
Lol Gibson.
I'm not goin anywhere with TR, just throwing out a couple names that were either busts or not that great with the browns, and pretty much ended up that way with other teams.
OK, I thought you were saying that it was the other way around....guys that die well after leaving here.
Hoping Gibso...er Gilberts fate will be the exception and not the norm!
You're right, Ward and Sheard aren't even in the conversation. They have talent. Especially Ward. The dude can hit. Should be a Steeler.
Why? They Steelers have never been known as hard hitters. Dirty hitters, not hard hitters. Good defenders, but not hard hitters.
Not like the likes of Jack Tatum, Night Train Lane, Willie Lanier, Mike Curtis, Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, LT, Nitschke and Butkus, Willie Lanier, Ray Lewis, John Lynch, Urlacher, Chuck Bednarik, Sam Huff.
You might say either Joe Greene or Lambert could fit in their, but while Lambert was HOF, I never thought of him as a big hitter, not like the MLBs named above. He was great at positioning and block shedding, but not so great at hammering. He was actually very lightweight for a MLB...compared to others. He was more on the order of Clay Matthews. Right place, right time to tackle, but not a huge hitter. While the Steelers had great defenses under LeBeau, they were heavy wood layers. Polamalu seemed like he was hitting people, but that was just his hair flying. I am not saying he didn't do a good job at his craft, but he was no John Lynch...more or less his contemporary. DBs can be great without being big hitters.....Hello Deion Sanders.
Just know this: In Gilbert, you are not getting a guy with a reputation for hard hitting. More of a guy that shys away from it.
TJ Ward is a bigger hitter than anyone the Steelers have had in decades....at least as far as DBs are concerned.
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Lol Gibson.
I'm not goin anywhere with TR, just throwing out a couple names that were either busts or not that great with the browns, and pretty much ended up that way with other teams.
OK, I thought you were saying that it was the other way around....guys that die well after leaving here.
Hoping Gibso...er Gilberts fate will be the exception and not the norm!
You're right, Ward and Sheard aren't even in the conversation. They have talent. Especially Ward. The dude can hit. Should be a Steeler.
Why? They Steelers have never been known as hard hitters. Dirty hitters, not hard hitters. Good defenders, but not hard hitters.
Not like the likes of Jack Tatum, Night Train Lane, Willie Lanier, Mike Curtis, Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, LT, Nitschke and Butkus, Willie Lanier, Ray Lewis, John Lynch, Urlacher, Chuck Bednarik, Sam Huff.
You might say either Joe Greene or Lambert could fit in their, but while Lambert was HOF, I never thought of him as a big hitter, not like the MLBs named above. He was great at positioning and block shedding, but not so great at hammering. He was actually very lightweight for a MLB...compared to others. He was more on the order of Clay Matthews. Right place, right time to tackle, but not a huge hitter. While the Steelers had great defenses under LeBeau, they were heavy wood layers. Polamalu seemed like he was hitting people, but that was just his hair flying. I am not saying he didn't do a good job at his craft, but he was no John Lynch...more or less his contemporary. DBs can be great without being big hitters.....Hello Deion Sanders.
Just know this: In Gilbert, you are not getting a guy with a reputation for hard hitting. More of a guy that shys away from it.
TJ Ward is a bigger hitter than anyone the Steelers have had in decades....at least as far as DBs are concerned.
They Steelers have never been known as hard hitters. Dirty hitters, not hard hitters. Good defenders, but not hard hitters.
uh-huh...
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Culture change? LOL
Dude, he BLOWS.
You better get REAL worried about your scouting staff AND your secondary depth because this move smacks of desperation and ignorance on the part if the Steelers.
I realize it is only a 6th rounder, but why the fuck would you want this guy on your team ... Let alone take us off the hook on his rookie contact?
Not a good look for Pittsburgh, you should be getting concerned.
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They Steelers have never been known as hard hitters. Dirty hitters, not hard hitters. Good defenders, but not hard hitters.
uh-huh...
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