Draft Talk
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oh, baloney. Davenport isn't going to last until the sixth round. Adams won't be there in the fifth.
Curtis Samuel in the FOURTH? LOLOLOLOLOL. wrong. these players won't be where you think you can take them.
Why not just draft Trubisky in the seventh round, at the rate you draft?
The Titans have their bigtime qb, why the bullbleep would they trade up?
They are more likely to trade down and get a few more picks.
oh, baloney. Davenport isn't going to last until the sixth round. Adams won't be there in the fifth.
Curtis Samuel in the FOURTH? LOLOLOLOLOL. wrong. these players won't be where you think you can take them.
Why not just draft Trubisky in the seventh round, at the rate you draft?
The Titans have their bigtime qb, why the bullbleep would they trade up?
They are more likely to trade down and get a few more picks.
Cal, that guy doesn't control the software that spits out the players.
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they should be alright, providing they keep Pryor and Hawkins........in time, Coleman and Higgins should be adequate.....and Devalve is looking better and better everyday......great catch last week....possible heir apparent to Barny?
tho you are right.....still shaking my head over those picks.....and, now, even more.....considering how they look so far....
they should be alright, providing they keep Pryor and Hawkins........in time, Coleman and Higgins should be adequate.....and Devalve is looking better and better everyday......great catch last week....possible heir apparent to Barny?
As our "can't block" TE? Sure... I would really would like to see him at H-back. Feel like he could create more problems for Ds working out of the backfield.
That said I still have a dual-purpose TE on my wishlist. Thought we missed the boat on Fidorowicz a couple years back. He really came on as a receiving TE this year for the Texans.
Sorry guys... but I disagree.
I agree, Po... Gordon still has a shot, but our FO is not exactly betting the farm on his return... and who can blame them? Even should he clear his personal hurdles there still the matter of how much of the player we saw burst onto the scene in 2013 is still there. Even his kind of talent has a shelf life.
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And since this is the place to toss out names... Mason Rudolf. Still a Junior though... No idea what his intentions are.
Caught him last nite in OSU's bowl. As compact a throwing motion and quick release as I've seen at the collegiate level in a good while, and has a freaking rocket of an arm. One minus was a lack of preservation instinct in his runs.
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oh, baloney. Davenport isn't going to last until the sixth round. Adams won't be there in the fifth.
Curtis Samuel in the FOURTH? LOLOLOLOLOL. wrong. these players won't be where you think you can take them.
Why not just draft Trubisky in the seventh round, at the rate you draft?
The Titans have their bigtime qb, why the bullbleep would they trade up?
They are more likely to trade down and get a few more picks.
Cal, that guy doesn't control the software that spits out the players.
Cal, that guy doesn't control the software that spits out the players.
oh. "never mind..."
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they should be alright, providing they keep Pryor and Hawkins........in time, Coleman and Higgins should be adequate.....and Devalve is looking better and better everyday......great catch last week....possible heir apparent to Barny?
As our "can't block" TE? Sure... I would really would like to see him at H-back. Feel like he could create more problems for Ds working out of the backfield.
That said I still have a dual-purpose TE on my wishlist. Thought we missed the boat on Fidorowicz a couple years back. He really came on as a receiving TE this year for the Texans.
Sorry guys... but I disagree.
I agree, Po... Gordon still has a shot, but our FO is not exactly betting the farm on his return... and who can blame them? Even should he clear his personal hurdles there still the matter of how much of the player we saw burst onto the scene in 2013 is still there. Even his kind of talent has a shelf life.
I agree, Po... Gordon still has a shot, but our FO is not exactly betting the farm on his return... and who can blame them? Even should he clear his personal hurdles there still the matter of how much of the player we saw burst onto the scene in 2013 is still there. Even his kind of talent has a shelf life.It's been mighty quiet on the Josh Front of late- Not a peep as what he's been up to. He's still on the Browns reserve\suspended list. But he did look mighty good in the little we saw of him preseason. Built us up with expectations- again. Then the big crash.
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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A-)
Round 1 Pick 10: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 3 (CHI): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Freddie Stevenson, FB, Florida State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
I say if we're gonna get a QB let's protect him... what do ya say? lol
Then we got Myles Garrett's counterpart, on the cheap. We also picked up our new backfield. Duke Johnson and Donnel Pumphrey will be lightning and quicksilver back there! Stevenson is also a guy that will help out the QB. All in?
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A-)
Round 1 Pick 10: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 3 (CHI): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Freddie Stevenson, FB, Florida State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
I say if we're gonna get a QB let's protect him... what do ya say? lol
Then we got Myles Garrett's counterpart, on the cheap. We also picked up our new backfield. Duke Johnson and Donnel Pumphrey will be lightning and quicksilver back there! Stevenson is also a guy that will help out the QB. All in?
A 4th round DE is myles garretts counterpart?
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Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A-)
Round 1 Pick 10: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 3 (CHI): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Freddie Stevenson, FB, Florida State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
I say if we're gonna get a QB let's protect him... what do ya say? lol
Then we got Myles Garrett's counterpart, on the cheap. We also picked up our new backfield. Duke Johnson and Donnel Pumphrey will be lightning and quicksilver back there! Stevenson is also a guy that will help out the QB. All in?
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 1: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama (A-)
Round 1 Pick 10: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 3 (CHI): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Freddie Stevenson, FB, Florida State (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
I say if we're gonna get a QB let's protect him... what do ya say? lol
Then we got Myles Garrett's counterpart, on the cheap. We also picked up our new backfield. Duke Johnson and Donnel Pumphrey will be lightning and quicksilver back there! Stevenson is also a guy that will help out the QB. All in?
Um, just no on an OT @ #1. Elflin @ #33, is my pick too. Assuming the Browns draft #1 overall, AND don't trade down (BARF!) it's going to be Trubisky, Garrett, or Allen. Book it.
We're not waiting till the 4th round to address the dumpster fire that is our defense either. One of the first round picks and one of the second round picks will be on that side of the ball.
And it will be Elflin OR Pocic, not both.
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Like the first 3 picks on this one
Your score is: 10912 (GRADE: A)Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)Round 1 Pick 10: Jabrill Peppers, OLB/SS, Michigan (A+)Round 1 Pick 16 (TENN): Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A+)Round 2 Pick 4 (JAX): Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin (A-)Round 2 Pick 16: DeMarcus Walker, DE, Florida State (A)Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A+))Round 3 Pick 5 (TENN): Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (A-)Round 4 Pick 1: Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State (A+)Round 3 Pick 4 (JAX): Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State (ARound 5 Pick 32: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (A+)Round 6 Pick 1: Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (
Your Future Picks:2018 Round 1 Pick2019 Round 1 PickLike the first 3 picks on this one
Your score is: 10912 (GRADE: A)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10: Jabrill Peppers, OLB/SS, Michigan (A+)
Round 1 Pick 16 (TENN): Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (JAX): Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 2 Pick 16: DeMarcus Walker, DE, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A+))
Round 3 Pick 5 (TENN): Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 4 (JAX): Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State (A
Round 5 Pick 32: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
Hate the first pick. Love the second. Hmmmm
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And since this is the place to toss out names... Mason Rudolf. Still a Junior though... No idea what his intentions are.
Caught him last nite in OSU's bowl. As compact a throwing motion and quick release as I've seen at the collegiate level in a good while, and has a freaking rocket of an arm. One minus was a lack of preservation instinct in his runs.
And since this is the place to toss out names... Mason Rudolf. Still a Junior though... No idea what his intentions are.
Caught him last nite in OSU's bowl. As compact a throwing motion and quick release as I've seen at the collegiate level in a good while, and has a freaking rocket of an arm. One minus was a lack of preservation instinct in his runs.
He's, thankfully for me, coming back to Stillwater next year. He's bringing Washington, the WR who snagged 9 catches for 171 yards and a TD, back as well.
I gave my opinion on him a week or so ago. I'm not sure what thread though. I'm hoping Gundy has him spend some time with the baseball team next semester. He definitely needs to learn how to slide.
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Like the first 3 picks on this one
Your score is: 10912 (GRADE: A)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 5 (TENN): Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 10: Jabrill Peppers, OLB/SS, Michigan (A+)
Round 1 Pick 16 (TENN): Quincy Wilson, CB, Florida (A+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (JAX): Ryan Ramczyk, OT, Wisconsin (A-)
Round 2 Pick 16: DeMarcus Walker, DE, Florida State (A)
Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A+))
Round 3 Pick 5 (TENN): Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (A-)
Round 4 Pick 1: Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State (A+)
Round 3 Pick 4 (JAX): Jeremy McNichols, RB, Boise State (A
Round 5 Pick 32: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2019 Round 1 Pick
Hate the first pick. Love the second. Hmmmm
Hate the first pick. Love the second. Hmmmm
Obviously im in camp allen but happy with garett too. But if peppers lasts till the eagles pick and we get him im on permanent boner. He's that freak FS that can come up and play LB'er like s 250 lb'er. Love that kid.
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My toes still hurt from the Raiders - Browns game....red right 88.....there was so much pain that day....
Ya, I remember it well. Damn, would analytics have led Sam to try the FG instead? I thought about that when Hue stated that analytics leads to his play calling. That was why he went for 2 early amongst other plays
Ya, I remember it well. Damn, would analytics have led Sam to try the FG instead? I thought about that when Hue stated that analytics leads to his play calling. That was why he went for 2 early amongst other plays
Cockroft missed an XP in that end of the stadium, lots of ice. So throwing the pass, going for the throat wasn't the worst thing to try....until it failed. Ugh
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Hate the first pick. Love the second. Hmmmm
Obviously im in camp allen but happy with garett too. But if peppers lasts till the eagles pick and we get him im on permanent boner. He's that freak FS that can come up and play LB'er like s 250 lb'er. Love that kid.
Obviously im in camp allen but happy with garett too. But if peppers lasts till the eagles pick and we get him im on permanent boner. He's that freak FS that can come up and play LB'er like s 250 lb'er. Love that kid.
I expect better of you.
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Demarcus Walker looks like a freak tonight (granted, just going up against a bunch of overrated white dudes). The depth of pass rusher in this draft really makes me balk at going with Garrett #1 overall.
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Can't help but feel Peppers was feigning injury. Being up in the booth texty texty and NOT on th sidelines with your team mates? Fuck that.
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Demarcus Walker looks like a freak tonight (granted, just going up against a bunch of overrated white dudes). The depth of pass rusher in this draft really makes me balk at going with Garrett #1 overall.
Demarcus Walker looks like a freak tonight (granted, just going up against a bunch of overrated white dudes). The depth of pass rusher in this draft really makes me balk at going with Garrett #1 overall.
Much as I want him with the Browns, I'm at about that point where we take Allen first and then the top pass rusher left second (if Foster is gone which is likely).
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Your score is: 10700 (GRADE: A-)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 14 (PHI): Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B-)
Round 1 Pick 31 (DAL): Pat Elflein, C/OG, Ohio State (B+)
Round 2 Pick 4 (JAX): Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A)
Round 2 Pick 6 (NYJ): Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A-)
Round 2 Pick 14 (MINN): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A)
Round 2 Pick 16: Justin Evans, SS, Texas A&M (
Round 2 Pick 31 (DAL): Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Jourdan Lewis, CB, Michigan (A)
Round 3 Pick 23 (MINN): Kevin King, CB, Washington (
Round 4 Pick 1: Daeshon Hall, DE, Texas A&M (B+)
Round 4 Pick 4 (JAX): Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)
Round 5 Pick 32: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Freddie Stevenson, FB, Florida State (A+)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (DAL)
2018 Round 1 Pick (NYJ)
2019 Round 1 Pick
Okay, you can say what you want but I really would like this draft too.
Basically, I fixed our offensive line. If our Center of the Oline ain't legit then that's the first thing we need a long term solution to. It's important enough that we burn two first to figure it out. The runner up becomes the RG. Then we plug one of the guys already on the roster into the RT. We can't run or pass until the line is solid. It really is that important.
I would love to have a franchise QB to rally behind for years, but if it just not there then we don't force it. By trading back a few times I was able to secure 3 first round picks for the following draft, plus 2 second rounders... that's 5 picks in the first 2 rounds. That's plenty of ammo to move up to #1 overall and get our QB then. I'm not saying Trubisky isn't the guy... just saying if there are any doubts, 3 first rounders and an elite Oline is a hell of a consolation prize.
I went heavy on the secondary. Last draft we emphasized WR, this year we emphasize it's counterpart the CB. We have Joe Haden, Body Count and Taylor. Kindred is in there as well... But in this scenario we're adding a bevy of talent and skills to challenge the WRs. Desmond King is a really nice corner that has a lot of tools and ability. I also like Jourdan Lewis and Kevin King.
Not only adding to the CBs but also the Safeties in the secondary. Marcus Williams and Justin Evans add competition to the roster for those Safety spots, they could probably both start at some point next year.
Getting back to the Oline... I was able to add not only the best TE available in the draft but luckily the second best was available at the end of the second round. The talent trumped what was out there at other positions. Adding not one but two really good blocking TEs beefed up an already stellar looking offensive line. Both TEs are able to block for the run and pass game and are sure handed in the receiving department. A lineup of Barnidge, Howard, Butt and DeValve at TE looks promising.
When watching Myles Garrett I noticed that a lot of the time the QB would wind up in Garretts arms while running from Daeshon Hall. So if we don't end up with Garrett getting Daeshon to chase QBs into the waiting arms of Nassib would be alright with me. Hopefully, with the improved secondary, both CBs and Safeties, the Defensive line will have that extra second to rip the limbs off the QB.
Daniel Carlson looks to be the real deal at the kicker spot. I'm not advocating taking him ala Raiders style or anything but an ice cold kicker in the fourth round, a guy that we can have lock down that position for quite a while, that was a good deal for me. Would love to add this kicker to our team.... heard he can hit 70 yard field goals...
My last two picks are really important. I really like the RB Donnel, he's explosive and elusive. Small but lightning quick. With a stout Oline and TEs with great WRs, he's going to be hard to get hands on. Even harder when we put a big dual threat Fullback like Stevenson out there in front of him.
All things considered, getting pretty much the entire offense and defense along with special teams upgraded to respectable proportions and gathering up 5 picks, 3 in the first round of next years draft, is an adequate alternative to the franchise QB pick at #1. It's at least something to consider anyways.
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Ya, I remember it well. Damn, would analytics have led Sam to try the FG instead? I thought about that when Hue stated that analytics leads to his play calling. That was why he went for 2 early amongst other plays
Cockroft missed an XP in that end of the stadium, lots of ice. So throwing the pass, going for the throat wasn't the worst thing to try....until it failed. Ugh
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they should be alright, providing they keep Pryor and Hawkins........in time, Coleman and Higgins should be adequate.....and Devalve is looking better and better everyday......great catch last week....possible heir apparent to Barny?
As our "can't block" TE? Sure... I would really would like to see him at H-back. Feel like he could create more problems for Ds working out of the backfield.
That said I still have a dual-purpose TE on my wishlist. Thought we missed the boat on Fidorowicz a couple years back. He really came on as a receiving TE this year for the Texans.
Sorry guys... but I disagree.
I agree, Po... Gordon still has a shot, but our FO is not exactly betting the farm on his return... and who can blame them? Even should he clear his personal hurdles there still the matter of how much of the player we saw burst onto the scene in 2013 is still there. Even his kind of talent has a shelf life.
I agree, Po... Gordon still has a shot, but our FO is not exactly betting the farm on his return... and who can blame them? Even should he clear his personal hurdles there still the matter of how much of the player we saw burst onto the scene in 2013 is still there. Even his kind of talent has a shelf life.
Right.....Ive been one of the few to keep hoping for his return and thinking he'll turn the corner......but.....argh.....Ive given up hope on this guy.....not even a flicker in my mind anymore......
If he shows up....actually makes it through camp......and then plays some real games.....I will be shocked.....
I think....based upon his flashes this past preseason.....that the shelf life on him is still fresh.....
It's been mighty quiet on the Josh Front of late- Not a peep ...... he did look mighty good in the little we saw of him preseason. Built us up with expectations- again. .......Then the big crash.
He looked GREAT......!!!
Amazing talent.....amazing waste of talent......just amazing.....
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Let's say just for kicks.
We draft Trubisky and Fournette. We resign Pryor and we get Gordon Back. We can draft either Pocic or Elflein at the top of the second round.
QB- Trubisky, Kessler
RB- Fournette, Johnson, Humphrey
WR- Gordon, Pryor, Coleman, Higgins
OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Erving, Paztor
I think that would be a really strong offensive unit.
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