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  • Despite being hampered by an injury all year, he's played with one hell of a motor. That, coupled with his eventual athleticism uptick, is very promising.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    Here ya go, Ag...

    Browns have 'astronomical grade' on Texas A&M's Myles Garrett, per source

    Adam Schefter ESPN Senior Writer

    As the 0-12 Cleveland Browns get closer to clinching the No. 1 overall draft pick, there is a real chance that the team will not use its top selection on a quarterback.

    The Browns have what one source close to the situation described as an "astronomical grade" on Texas A&M defensive end Myles Garrett, a blue-chip prospect who could dramatically upgrade Cleveland's defense. The Browns are enamored with Garrett, according to the source.

    Then again it is Schefter...

    @tour2ma said:

    Here ya go, Ag...

    Browns have 'astronomical grade' on Texas A&M's Myles Garrett, per source

    Adam Schefter ESPN Senior Writer

    As the 0-12 Cleveland Browns get closer to clinching the No. 1 overall draft pick, there is a real chance that the team will not use its top selection on a quarterback.

    The Browns have what one source close to the situation described as an "astronomical grade" on Texas A&M defensive end Myles Garrett, a blue-chip prospect who could dramatically upgrade Cleveland's defense. The Browns are enamored with Garrett, according to the source.

    Then again it is Schefter...

    Interesting. I think he is the kind of player that can refill the empty seats if they build that defense around his skills. I hope Schefter's source is a good one. Denver fans certainly get charged up by Von Miller. And like Miller his presence can affect every play whether he gets the QB or not, as long as there are others on the team to complement his level of play. The Browns can do that in one draft with what is already on the roster. And if they let some of those D players up for new contracts (like Collins) know they plan to draft him, I think we retain them all. These guys want to be on a D that makes a difference. It's why Ware (and others) signed on with Denver. And you know my bias, build a great D and you are back in the playoffs.

  • Still feel like we have to commit to the 4-3 with Myles...

    ... but I am warming to a MG - Tim Williams first round.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • You take Myles and put him where you want him.....great players dont need "systems" to be great.....they just get it done...

    Garrett has been my choice since last year.....and that aint changing.....

    If the Browns trade out of the opportunity to select him.....they will hit 11 plus on my stupid meter....(which goes to 10)

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  • MudflyM Mudfly

    You take Myles and put him where you want him.....great players dont need "systems" to be great.....they just get it done...

    Garrett has been my choice since last year.....and that aint changing.....

    If the Browns trade out of the opportunity to select him.....they will hit 11 plus on my stupid meter....(which goes to 10)

    @mudfly said:

    You take Myles and put him where you want him.....great players dont need "systems" to be great.....they just get it done...

    Garrett has been my choice since last year.....and that aint changing.....

    If the Browns trade out of the opportunity to select him.....they will hit 11 plus on my stupid meter....(which goes to 10)

    LOL!

  • MudflyM Mudfly

    You take Myles and put him where you want him.....great players dont need "systems" to be great.....they just get it done...

    Garrett has been my choice since last year.....and that aint changing.....

    If the Browns trade out of the opportunity to select him.....they will hit 11 plus on my stupid meter....(which goes to 10)

    @mudfly said:

    You take Myles and put him where you want him.....

    OK... QB! HA!

    First stab at FirstPick... I guess you can color me "stupid"... 😉

    Your score is: 10066 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 7 (CAR): Tim Williams, OLB/DE, Alabama (A+)

    Round 1 Pick 19 (WASH): Desmond King, CB, Iowa (B+)

    Round 2 Pick 1: Ethan Pocic, C/OG, LSU (B+)

    Round 2 Pick 7 (CAR): O.J. Howard, TE, Alabama (A-)

    Round 2 Pick 11 (PHI): Christian McCaffrey, RB, Stanford (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 14: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 23 (PITT): Marcus Maye, FS, Florida (😎

    Round 3 Pick 1: Anthony Walker Jr., ILB, Northwestern (A-)

    Round 3 Pick 23 (PITT): Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss (😎

    Round 4 Pick 1: Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (A)

    Round 5 Pick 30: Riley Bullough, ILB, Michigan State (😎

    Round 6 Pick 1: Ryan Switzer, WR, North Carolina (A+)

    Your Future Picks:

    2018 Round 1 Pick (CAR)

    2018 Round 1 Pick

    2019 Round 1 Pick

    1. Chicago Bears - 10760

    2. Philadelphia Eagles - 10406

    3. Cleveland Browns - 10066

    4. Jacksonville Jaguars - 9838

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Like the draft, but someone will have to explain to me why we need McCaffrey with Duke on the roster.

  • Straight value pick and what I see as a Crow-Duke hybrid...

    Throw the 3 in the mix and see what shakes out.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • I don't see first down runner in his future. Too skinny.

  • Thank you Redskins, for moving our 2nd first round pick a little higher in the draft order!

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • PoeticGP PoeticG

    Here's one just staying put and drafting what came to me. I really like this Pumphrey kid, dude has burners. He could be the answer at PR/KR and a playmaker on 3rd downs and special screens and reverse plays.

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)

    Round 1 Pick 11: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 1: Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A)

    Round 2 Pick 14: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (B+)

    Round 3 Pick 1: Kevin King, CB, Washington (C+)

    Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor ( 😎

    Round 5 Pick 30: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)

    Your Future Picks:

    2018 Round 1 Pick

    2019 Round 1 Pick

    @poeticg said:

    Here's one just staying put and drafting what came to me. I really like this Pumphrey kid, dude has burners. He could be the answer at PR/KR and a playmaker on 3rd downs and special screens and reverse plays.

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)

    Round 1 Pick 11: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 1: Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A)

    Round 2 Pick 14: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (B+)

    Round 3 Pick 1: Kevin King, CB, Washington (C+)

    Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor ( 😎

    Round 5 Pick 30: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)

    Your Future Picks:

    2018 Round 1 Pick

    2019 Round 1 Pick

    i'll fucking puke. what the fuck is the fascination with the big 12? wasn't there a committee last week in the NCAA that decided not to allow a team represent that conference in a 4 team playoff?

    i never got this. alabama and ohio state. start there then work your way out. seems to work for everyone (including our hated rivals) except us.

    dumb. fucking dumb and dumber.

    T 1 Reply

  • !st shot with no trades;

    Your score is: 10149 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 11: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Adoree' Jackson, CB, Southern California (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 14: Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A)
    Round 5 Pick 30: David Jones, FS, Richmond (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A+)

    And I bet my 6th round value pick turns out better than any receiver the Browns took in 2016.

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  • Alex, I'll take famous Malachi's for $200...

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    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • miktoxicM miktoxic

    @poeticg said:

    Here's one just staying put and drafting what came to me. I really like this Pumphrey kid, dude has burners. He could be the answer at PR/KR and a playmaker on 3rd downs and special screens and reverse plays.

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)

    Round 1 Pick 11: Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 1: Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A)

    Round 2 Pick 14: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (B+)

    Round 3 Pick 1: Kevin King, CB, Washington (C+)

    Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor ( 😎

    Round 5 Pick 30: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)

    Round 6 Pick 1: Donnel Pumphrey, RB, San Diego State (A)

    Your Future Picks:

    2018 Round 1 Pick

    2019 Round 1 Pick

    i'll fucking puke. what the fuck is the fascination with the big 12? wasn't there a committee last week in the NCAA that decided not to allow a team represent that conference in a 4 team playoff?

    i never got this. alabama and ohio state. start there then work your way out. seems to work for everyone (including our hated rivals) except us.

    dumb. fucking dumb and dumber.

    @miktoxic said:

    i'll fucking puke. what the fuck is the fascination with the big 12? wasn't there a committee last week in the NCAA that decided not to allow a team represent that conference in a 4 team playoff?

    i never got this. alabama and ohio state. start there then work your way out. seems to work for everyone (including our hated rivals) except us.

    dumb. fucking dumb and dumber.

    4 players from the SEC

    1 player from the Big 10

    1 player from the Pac 12

    1 player from the Big 12

    1 player from the MWC

    I take it that you don't follow college ball much.

  • T TexasAg1969

    !st shot with no trades;

    Your score is: 10149 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:
    Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)
    Round 1 Pick 11: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (A+)
    Round 2 Pick 1: Adoree' Jackson, CB, Southern California (B+)
    Round 2 Pick 14: Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A)
    Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)
    Round 4 Pick 1: Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A)
    Round 5 Pick 30: David Jones, FS, Richmond (A)
    Round 6 Pick 1: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A+)

    And I bet my 6th round value pick turns out better than any receiver the Browns took in 2016.

    @texasag1969 said:

    !st shot with no trades;

    Your score is: 10149 (GRADE: A-)

    Your Picks:

    Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)

    Round 1 Pick 11: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama (A+)

    Round 2 Pick 1: Adoree' Jackson, CB, Southern California (B+)

    Round 2 Pick 14: Jake Butt, TE, Michigan (A)

    Round 3 Pick 1: Tyler Orlosky, C, West Virginia (A)

    Round 4 Pick 1: Caleb Brantley, DT, Florida (A)

    Round 5 Pick 30: David Jones, FS, Richmond (A)

    Round 6 Pick 1: Malachi Dupre, WR, LSU (A+)

    And I bet my 6th round value pick turns out better than any receiver the Browns took in 2016.

    I like that a lot. Fits with my "our OL isn't that bad" theory.

  • I think that after today we have the #1 and a multi-tie for potentially #7.

    Six teams have less than 5 wins.

    Six teams(including the eagles) have 5 wins.

    We need that Eagles pick to keep getting better! 🙂

    I'm at the point to where I'll be happy if- after the 49ers finally win another game and PIT has to beat us week 17 to get into the playoffs. I hope that a Browns team, without a win, goes into the Steelers home field and knock them out the playoffs on a bitter cold, cold night. Could even be the Sunday night game(put in at the last minute). Browns would of at least accomplished something, and head into the offseason with two top 5 draft selections.

    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
  • 1 Cleveland Browns 0-13 0.000 0.554

    2 San Francisco 49ers 1-12 0.077 0.502

    3 Jacksonville Jaguars 2-11 0.154 0.541

    4 Chicago Bears 3-10 0.231 0.527

    5 Titans via Rams 4-9 0.308 0.493

    6 New York Jets 4-9 0.308 0.505

    7 Carolina Panthers 5-8 0.385 0.522

    8 San Diego Chargers 5-8 0.385 0.538

    9 New Orleans Saints 5-8 0.385 0.539

    10 Browns (via eagles) 5-8 0.385 0.571

    11 Arizona Cardinals 5-7-1 0.417 0.461

    12 Cincinnati Bengals 5-7-1 0.417 0.515

    13 Buffalo Bills 6-7 0.462 0.465

    14 Indianapolis Colts 6-7 0.462 0.495

    15 Tennessee Titans 7-6 0.538 0.466

    16 Eagles via Vikings 7-6 0.538 0.495


    Eagles have remaining games @Raves, vs Giants, vs Cowboys. Unlikely they get past maybe 6 wins, that pick will end up probably in the 9-12 range.


    Other 5-8 teams:

    - Panthers have a tough-ish schedule, @Redskins, vs Falcons, @Bucs

    - Chargers play the browns, so will end up on at least 6, plus games @Raiders, vs Chiefs - 6 it is then.

    - Saints are @Cardinals, vs Bucs, @Falcons.


    Rams at 4-9 are @Seahawks, vs 49ers and vs Cardinals - can see them picking up at least one win there, possibly another against the cards.

  • I wonder if the Jaguars will "win the draft" again this year

  • L LondonBrown

    I wonder if the Jaguars will "win the draft" again this year

    @londonbrown said:

    I wonder if the Jaguars will "win the draft" again this year

    I don't know, pretty sure it won't be Gus Bradley and David Caldwell making the picks though.

  • After watching most of the second half of the 49ers yesterday, I can truly say they look just as pitiful as the Browns. Kap just needs to keep kneeling on the sidelines for the whole afternoon. They will play LA for the California suckatude championship in between losses to the Falcons and Seahawks. 0-16 is the only way we are ensured of #1.

    As to all the 5-8 teams it all depends on how badly their opponents need to win for the playoffs as well as how much they will be using that time for player development of 2nd/3rd team players. It can start to look like preseason in that last week or two if neither team has anything to gain. And if they gain a leg up in the draft by losing, they can "develop" while tanking at the same time.

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