Draft Talk
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One caution would be Greco... return to full form from LizzieFrancaise is not guaranteed.
Hasn't Joeckel struggled throughout his rookie deal?
One caution would be Greco... return to full form from LizzieFrancaise is not guaranteed.
Hasn't Joeckel struggled throughout his rookie deal?
He has, mostly due to injury and the Cam Erving treatment. "Oh, you're a RT? Let's try you at LT. Oh, you're a LT? Let's try you at RG."
It's a risk, but a calculated one. Like RG3, but less to lose. I see us taking a few of those risks year after year.
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there is no way Davenport, OT, is there in the sixth round. Gee, why not just draft Garrett in the sixth round,
so you don't have to pay him so much money?
come on, man.
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there is no way Davenport, OT, is there in the sixth round. Gee, why not just draft Garrett in the sixth round,
so you don't have to pay him so much money?
come on, man.
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Would love this to be our first 3 picks....more chance of us winning a game tho
Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)Round 1 Pick 8: Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)Round 2 Pick 1: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)Round 2 Pick 17: Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)Round 3 Pick 1: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A-)Round 4 Pick 1: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A)Round 5 Pick 31: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A-)Round 6 Pick 1: Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B-)Would love this to be our first 3 picks....more chance of us winning a game tho
Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 1: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M (A+)Round 1 Pick 8: Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama (A+)Round 2 Pick 1: Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+)Round 2 Pick 17: Brad Kaaya, QB, Miami (Fla.) (B+)Round 3 Pick 1: Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State (A-)Round 4 Pick 1: Nick Chubb, RB, Georgia (A)Round 5 Pick 31: Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State (A-)Round 6 Pick 1: Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (B-)No way Jamal Adams makes it to second round, right? I think I've seen him in the top ten in multiple articles.
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So let's say we go with defense in the first round and skip over taking a QB. Kizer and Trubisky are gone but you still want to draft a QB.
Who do you like out of the other guys?
-Mason Rudolph (all signs are pointing to him staying in school so this option may be off the table)
-Luke Falk
-Brad Kaaya
-Chad Kelly
-Deshaun Watson
-Davis Webb
-Pat Mahomes
- Or some other QB that may have slipped through the net
I haven't seen enough of the other guys to make heads or tails of who I would want.
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Always fun to see what the computer does with our draft... I took the 49ers... and somehow earned the top spot. The computer us? 14th...
Here's the Top Ten plus our results...
Round 1 Pick 1 (1) (CLE) Chargers: Cam Robinson, OT, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 2 (2) (S.F.) Cardinals: Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 3 (3) Jaguars: Myles Garrett, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
Round 1 Pick 4 (4) Bears: Jonathan Allen, DE/DT, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 5 (5) Titans: Teez Tabor, CB, Florida
Round 1 Pick 6 (6) Jets: Marlon Humphrey, CB, Alabama
Round 1 Pick 7 (7) (S.D.) Browns: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina
Round 1 Pick 8 (8) Browns: Derek Barnett, DE, Tennessee
Round 1 Pick 9 (9) (ARI) 49ers: Malik McDowell, DT/DE, Michigan State
Round 1 Pick 10 (10) Bengals: Tim Williams, OLB/DE, Alabama
Round 2 Pick 7 (39) (S.D.) Browns: Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson
Round 2 Pick 9 (41) (ARI) Browns: Marcus Williams, FS, Utah
Round 2 Pick 22 (54) (DEN) Browns: Adam Bisnowaty, OT/OG, Pittsburgh
Round 2 Pick 29 (61) (K.C.) Browns: Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State
Round 4 Pick 1 (97) Browns: Samaje Perine, RB, Oklahoma
Round 4 Pick 3 (99) (JAX) Browns: Cole Hikutini, TE, Louisville
Round 6 Pick 14 (173) (IND) Browns: James Onwualu, OLB, Notre Dame
Round 6 Pick 16 (175) (WASH) Browns: Cameron Tom, C, Southern Mississippi
Round 6 Pick 18 (177) (BALT) Browns: Jessamen Dunker, OG, Tennessee State
Round 7 Pick 4 (194) (CHI) Browns: Davon Godchaux, DT, LSU
Round 7 Pick 32 (222) (DAL) Browns: Randall Goforth, SS, UCLA -
So let's say we go with defense in the first round and skip over taking a QB. Kizer and Trubisky are gone but you still want to draft a QB.
Who do you like out of the other guys?
-Mason Rudolph (all signs are pointing to him staying in school so this option may be off the table)
-Luke Falk
-Brad Kaaya
-Chad Kelly
-Deshaun Watson
-Davis Webb
-Pat Mahomes
- Or some other QB that may have slipped through the net
I haven't seen enough of the other guys to make heads or tails of who I would want.
So let's say we go with defense in the first round and skip over taking a QB. Kizer and Trubisky are gone but you still want to draft a QB.
Who do you like out of the other guys?
-Mason Rudolph (all signs are pointing to him staying in school so this option may be off the table)
-Luke Falk
-Brad Kaaya
-Chad Kelly
-Deshaun Watson
-Davis Webb
-Pat Mahomes
- Or some other QB that may have slipped through the net
I haven't seen enough of the other guys to make heads or tails of who I would want.
Of those guys? Deshaun Watson. He goes first round along with Trubisky and Kizer in my book. Outside of that, I don't know. I'm not looking for DA/Weeden/Mettenberger version 102.0. I'm looking for a guy that can read a defense, make enough downfield throws to keep the D honest and maybe pick up a first down with his feet when needed. I don't care if a guy makes a 75 yard attempt that falls incomplete.
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We need a QB unless we wanna bring in Jay Cutler or rely on Cody Kessler.
Everyone's always complaining about how there's no Andrew Luck or Peyton Manning - yea no shit. If there was we better have the #1 overall that year because whoever's there isn't going to be trading out of that spot.
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Anybody else nervous about the Browns trading down again? Our history suggests that we're going to trade at least once in the first round, and our history is less than stellar when this happens. I think we've gotten great VALUE for the trades, but we obviously haven't capitalized on the picks (understatement). If Garrett and Allen are graded out as high as we think they are, I'm sure there will be offers. Now, I don't think we'll see the same insane type of offers that are associated with "franchise QB prospects", but Garrett and Allen could definitely fetch some interest. What if we traded out of #1 and stayed in the top ten? For me, I'm so against trading down because history hasn't been kind to us, but also because I feel it's time for us to take a gamble on a highly rated player. It's too early to make a judgment on our previous draft, but I don't get the impression that fans are totally impressed. Hopefuly Ogbah and Coleman finish these last two games very strong, and I'll feel better.
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I don't get the idea of not trading out of fear of not using the picks well. If you think they're not going to pick the right guy, surely you prefer them to have more attempts at it?
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That's been my bitch Chris, this FO seems to value quantity over quality.
This is how you accumulate a roster full of mediocre talent.
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That's been my bitch Chris, this FO seems to value quantity over quality.
This is how you accumulate a roster full of mediocre talent.
That's been my bitch Chris, this FO seems to value quantity over quality.
This is how you accumulate a roster full of mediocre talent.
And that I can get on board with. I don't particularly favour trading down, maybe a few spots if we can pick up an extra first and at least an extra second, if not another first (like rams/rg3). But, people complain that they don't trust the FO to make the right picks, then are vehemently against them having more attempts at it, which is counter intuitive.
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I'm on board trading down on our second pick. Around 15. Secure two top 25 players and an additional 2nd rounder.
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I'm on board trading down on our second pick. Around 15. Secure two top 25 players and an additional 2nd rounder.
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A trade always depends on the offer exceeding the value of the prospects. IMO we got great value trading the #2 to PHI last year... so so value trading the PHI #8 to TN for the #15.
There are almost always a small number of "special" players everyone wants to some degree who turns out to be the shiznit. Once they do then we hear endlessly on how we passed on "their guy"... on how much smarter they are than our FO... all the while never mentioning the 11 other fucksticks they've wanted over the years that bombed.
It gets old...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
I kinda want to trade down from #1 overall at this point. Seriously drafting Garrett or Allen and putting him into a ray horton system is such a waste of talent.
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I kinda want to trade down from #1 overall at this point. Seriously drafting Garrett or Allen and putting him into a ray horton system is such a waste of talent.
I kinda want to trade down from #1 overall at this point. Seriously drafting Garrett or Allen and putting him into a ray horton system is such a waste of talent.
so lets just keep trading down and drafting mediocre (at best) talent so when the next DC comes in he's got squat to work with. I mean why break the mold right? Why start drafting talent now? seems so impulsive to me. We've got such a good thing going right now where we can't tell whether it's the players that outright suck or the coaches suck or some combo thereof.
Srsly lets just start drafting talent that gets shit done on the field and when other teams react to that talent we can see if our coaches put said talent in the positions to win games for this team. If we draft Garett and Horton immediately stands him up....and we all see how well Garett does those snaps with his hands down....than we can yell and scream for Horton to be let go if he doesn't fit the defense to the talent on the team. If they keep shoehorning players built for one scheme into another, than we know it's the coaches 100%.
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horton has had two seasons with the browns and they both sucked your asking for a 3rd season. and he did that with ogbah at the beginning of the season and garrett is too small to play de in a 3-4
trade down secure some future picks seems like a good idea for the browns 1 player wont fix our issues..1 coach maybe but we need help at a lot of spots QB being the biggest need simply because we dont have a franchise guy on roster hell we should probably draft two QBs
maybe we can trade down and take Mitch and Fournette in the 1st
Your score is: 10648 (GRADE: A)
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Mitch Trubisky, QB, North Carolina (A+)
Round 1 Pick 11 (CAR): Leonard Fournette, RB, LSU (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Charles Harris, DE, Missouri (B+)
Round 2 Pick 7 (S.D.): Sidney Jones, CB, Washington (A)
Round 2 Pick 11 (CAR): Marcus Williams, FS, Utah (A)
Round 2 Pick 17: Desmond King, CB, Iowa (A+)
Round 3 Pick 1: Curtis Samuel, WR, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Kyle Fuller, C, Baylor (B+)
Round 5 Pick 31: Daniel Carlson, K, Auburn (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Ejuan Price, OLB, Pittsburgh (B-)
Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick (S.D.)
2019 Round 1 Pick
Had 2 Trades my 1,1 for SD 1st 2018 1,7 2017 and 2,7 2017
my 1,7 for carolinas 1,11 and 2,11 -
Somebody tell this guy we play more 4 man front than his traditional belief on what a 34 is.
I'm tired of explaining at this point.
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